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[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think Cyberpunk will be friggin awesome, with cc and all that jazz. Specially with the creator himself, Mike Pondsmith working really closely with them.

Man, that video makes me so excited. More so than most trailers do. 

[Lawrence0294]

Its probably been asked before, but what do you guys consider to be the best ending for The Witcher 3? Which do you like the most?

Empress for me too. Most interesting world state, more interesting for Ciri and a balanced, bittersweet ending.

 

I found the Witcher ending to be too bubble gummy and I felt it didn't fit thematically with the game

 

and the third one doesn't exist.

[Reighto]

Empress for me too. Most interesting world state, more interesting for Ciri and a balanced, bittersweet ending.

 

I found the Witcher ending to be too bubble gummy and I felt it didn't fit thematically with the game

 

and the third one doesn't exist.

I like the Witcher ending. I know it is to much of a happy ending for some, but every now and then a happy ending is nice

[Andrew Lucas]

The Witcher ending for sure. Ciri gets to do what makes her happy, and that's enough to me.

[Lawrence0294]

I like the Witcher ending. I know it is to much of a happy ending for some, but every now and then a happy ending is nice

I don't know, It's the first ending I got and when I saw what the empress ending offered, I actually decided to replay all of the third act of the game (I'm crazy I know). It's also the only ending where you get so see Dandelion talking about Priscilla and Zoltan. I just feel it offered far more closure.

 

Plus, White Ochard with snow.....you can't beat that. 

[panzerwzh]

I don't know, It's the first ending I got and when I saw what the empress ending offered, I actually decided to replay all of the third act of the game (I'm crazy I know). It's also the only ending where you get so see Dandelion talking about Priscilla and Zoltan. I just feel it offered far more closure.

 

Plus, White Ochard with snow.....you can't beat that. 

Ciri is the lady of lake, hence even the witcher ending would not fully cover her "freedom". Empress? not really her cup of tea.

[Lawrence0294]

Ciri is the lady of lake, hence even the witcher ending would not fully cover her "freedom". Empress? not really her cup of tea.

I actually like that. I prefer the idea that after all she went through, all the horror she witnessed, instead of choosing what she would like, she chooses something that would really allow her to do a difference. Choosing to become empress and having Cerys as queen of Skellige really offers an interesting world and in a way, a happier ending.

[Andrew Lucas]

Nah, **** the rest.

jk (kinda)

[Hazegurl]

I like the Witcher ending but I prefer the "death" ending. It was very emotional, took the steam out of Ciri being a sue character, and offered a more gloomy Witcher like ending for the series.  I just hate all the options to get to it so Geralt is always relaxing in Kovir with Triss at the end.

[Han Shot First]

I think Cyberpunk will be friggin awesome, with cc and all that jazz. Specially with the creator himself, Mike Pondsmith working really closely with them.

 

Epic trailer. 

 

I'm hoping CD Projekt Red gives him a cameo somewhere in the game. 

[Wolven_Soul]

I think you spelled Yen wrong. 

 

It would be cool to play as Ciri in the next game though, she seems to be pretty awesome. Her fate as Witcher, unknown, or Empress could all allow her to speak out on an adventure of her own. I don't enjoy Witcher 3 as much as I could probably because I wasn't a big fan of Geralt as a character, but I like Ciri and all her segments greatly. 

 

Nope, Yen is history in my Witcher world.  

 

I loved Geralt as a character, but I have always liked the stoic characters that have a heart, but keep their emotions subtle instead of wearing that heart on their sleeve.  

 

I wouldn't mind a Ciri game, but she would have to be seriously depowered to make it work.

[Wolven_Soul]

I think Cyberpunk will be friggin awesome, with cc and all that jazz. Specially with the creator himself, Mike Pondsmith working really closely with them.

 

I'm looking forward to it.  It will be cool to see what they can do away from the Witcher world.  As much as I love TW3, don't want to see them become a one trick pony.

[Wolven_Soul]

I highly doubt it will be Ciri. Just too many points which speak against it (witcher 3 endings, her powers, the fact that she isn't even a witcher etc.)

The most likely option is imo a completely new predefined witcher created by CD Project Red. Someone like Letho.

I just hope it won't be a completely customizable character like the Dragonborn from Skyrim or the Inquisitor. I have trust in CDP's skills but there is just a too big danger the writing will suffer from it and the protagonist will end as bland and shallow as the two above mentioned characters.

 

I could get behind a Letho game, he's definitely interesting.  

[Wolven_Soul]

Right, no thanks on that Ciri game.  I think the folks at CDPR are done sticking with the books anyway and will most likely focus on creating their own interesting characters.

 

I don't think TW3 got dumbed down, nor did the open world aspects ruin it.  IMO, their mistake was in trying to follow the story written in the books and even then I would say their biggest mistake was the Wild Hunt themselves.  In TW1, they were menacing specters but in TW3, they were just so meh.

 

I definitely don't think it was dumbed down at all.  They are one of the few devs who have managed to do open world right, and they certainly nailed it when it comes to choices and consequences.  The Wild Hunt were weak as villains unfortunately, I can agree with that, but I have seen worse.  I'm looking at you Corypheus.  

 

Even so, still don't feel like the game itself is dumbed down.  Still a very brutal world with brutal decisions to be made, improved combat and a strong story.  The only other thing besides the villain that I didn't like was the skill progression.  

[Wolven_Soul]

Witcher 2 is different from Witcher 1 and Witcher 3. I was introduced to the Witcher series in Witcher 2. Yes, it has a very powerful story but it is too political to my taste (It is great, just not to my liking.). You dont play as a Witcher much in Witcher 2, you are a fugitive on the run trying to escape and clear your name, recover your memory etc etc.

 

"Right amount of exploration" in Witcher 2? If there ever is a subjective opinion, that is one shining example right there because I feel that Witcher 2 does not have enough exploration. I however do not label it as dumbdown because I recognize that they traded something for something - a tighter story. 

 

Reminds me of the new video Totalbuscuit just made 

- People cannot distinguish opinion to actual facts and are very generous with labels instead of addressing the issue.

 

Dumbdown. What is dumbdown? When someone find less of what they like in a game, they totally ignore everything extra that was added but not to their liking and simply label it dumbdown??

 

"The right amount of exploration"??? Unless the author can show me a scientific formula that show me what exactly is that right amount and its unit of measurement, that is simply the purest form of BS.

 

So some prefer the story of TW2 to TW3 and that is perfectly fine. I can even understand why. It is more intense, it is more gripping. Call it bad writing in TW3 but bad writing is not dumbdown.

 

Then there is this "choices & consequences". To me, the real choices and consequences in TW3 weights far more heavily than TW2. The Wild Hunt is not the enemy. I dont see them as the big bad - they are just insane lunatics that is getting in my way. Geralt is fighting himself for Ciri and if you fail bad enough by doing seemingly harmless actions, saying seemingly harmless things without paying attention to who Ciri is from the very moment the game starts, this is the consequence:

 

 

I simply dont think I can mess up enough in TW2 to get an ending that can make me feel even half as bad. (As a parent I can relate even more. Everything a parent say to a child can have a very huge impact. Maybe it is targeted at a even more mature audience)

 

Unlike TW2, in TW3, there is no justifications - at the end of the day, justify to yourself all you want but nobody cares especially not those who left.  Hence you are a lone in the hut. Only actions and consequences.

 

Dumbdown? No. Different focus? Yes.

 

I saw that video to, good stuff.  There's a reason that dude is my favorite Youtuber.  

 

I have to agree I don't remember all that much exploration in TW2.  Granted, I only played it once and it was a while back, but still, it doesn't even compare to TW3 in terms of exploration. 

 

I liked the story in TW2, but I liked TW3's more, but that is because I usually prefer the stories that are more personal, and there are few things more personal than a parent's search for their child, and TW3 does that story very well.  The normal taciturn Geralt really shows those inner emotions whenever it involves his daughter.  

[Wolven_Soul]

Its probably been asked before, but what do you guys consider to be the best ending for The Witcher 3? Which do you like the most?

 

Ciri becoming a Witcher, and Geralt ending up with Triss, and with Radovid dead.  

 

The real world is dark and gloomy enough for me, I like my fiction to have happier endings.  

[ashwind]

Its probably been asked before, but what do you guys consider to be the best ending for The Witcher 3? Which do you like the most?

 

I dont think there is a "best" ending. I am more concern about Geralt(my) actions that leads to the ending. 

 

As a parent, I can only show Ciri all the options. Of course I would like her to do certain things, I may think that she would be happier or better off if she does this and that. But that is just parents being selfish and thinks that they know better. (This contradicts with Ciri's personality imo)

 

Can Ciri be truly happy and live her life without regrets if the path she is traveling is not of her own choosing?

 

Spoiler

For example: Purposely not letting her meet Emhyr

Doing so is basically limiting her options and not letting her be the mistress of her own destiny.

 

The way I look at it, I will present her with all the options. If she chooses to become Empress, she will have my blessing. To me, it is happier to suffer along a path of your choosing than lead a more "comfortable" life of someone else's design. At the end of her journey, she can look back and say - "that was all me, for better for worse, all me."

 

She will choose to be Empress if presented with all options and if circumstances allows her to or a Witheress if circumstances does not allow her to.

 

The best ending: Whatever Ciri chooses to become.

[Blooddrunk1004]

Its probably been asked before, but what do you guys consider to be the best ending for The Witcher 3? Which do you like the most?

I think all endings are great and fit well.

 

My favourite one is Ciri becoming an empress since it contains a nice mixture of happy, bittersweet and sad tone to it. Yes, Geralt and Ciri won't see each other for a while but the fact that Nilfgaard and Northern Kingdoms will finally have a ruler who has humanity and is not a ruthless, racist, sadistic and power hungry moron is a big step.

 

I also think it has the most closure out of all 3 endings. I don't agree with people when they say that this ending forces her to become what she didn't want to. it's quite the opposite, she chooses this path for herself.

Also:

 

[Xetykins]

Man, that video makes me so excited. More so than most trailers do.

Yeah, I have no friggin idea what cyberpunk is all about but this got me excited too. This man can probably make watching paint dry look very interesting.

[Wolven_Soul]

 

Can Ciri be truly happy and live her life without regrets if the path she is traveling is not of her own choosing?

 

Spoiler

For example: Purposely not letting her meet Emhyr

Doing so is basically limiting her options and not letting her be the mistress of her own destiny.

 

The way I look at it, I will present her with all the options. If she chooses to become Empress, she will have my blessing. To me, it is happier to suffer along a path of your choosing than lead a more "comfortable" life of someone else's design. At the end of her journey, she can look back and say - "that was all me, for better for worse, all me."

 

She will choose to be Empress if presented with all options and if circumstances allows her to or a Witheress if circumstances does not allow her to.

 

The best ending: Whatever Ciri chooses to become.

 

See, she never actually asks to go and see her father, never asks Geralt his opinion if he thinks she should or anything like that.  If she had asked, and Geralt said he didn't think she should go and see the jerk, then it could be said that he is limiting her options.  

 

Merely keeping silent I do not think does the same thing.  Ciri is a grown woman with the power to teleport, if she wanted to go and see her father, nothing can really stop her.  But she doesn't seem to actually want to see her father, she barely mentioned him from what I remember, and who can blame her there?  

 

So her choosing to become a Witcher is every bit as fully her choice as becoming the Empress if she goes that.  In fact, it could be argued that since she never mentions wanting to go and see her father, and Geralt drags her there anyway, that pushes her in a way that she might not choose to go otherwise.  

 

Now, I'm not saying that is a good argument, just that it could be seen that way.  Thus, as I said, either way it is all her choice.

[ashwind]

See, she never actually asks to go and see her father, never asks Geralt his opinion if he thinks she should or anything like that.  If she had asked, and Geralt said he didn't think she should go and see the jerk, then it could be said that he is limiting her options.  

 

Merely keeping silent I do not think does the same thing.  Ciri is a grown woman with the power to teleport, if she wanted to go and see her father, nothing can really stop her.  But she doesn't seem to actually want to see her father, she barely mentioned him from what I remember, and who can blame her there?  

 

So her choosing to become a Witcher is every bit as fully her choice as becoming the Empress if she goes that.  In fact, it could be argued that since she never mentions wanting to go and see her father, and Geralt drags her there anyway, that pushes her in a way that she might not choose to go otherwise.  

 

Now, I'm not saying that is a good argument, just that it could be seen that way.  Thus, as I said, either way it is all her choice.

 

I did not saying that choosing to become a Witcher is not her choice. I am not even arguing that one choice is superior to the other. I I am just saying choosing to become Empress is as much her choice as being a Witcher.

[FKA_Servo]

While I haven't seen how it plays out exactly (I did the witcher ending, which I thought was keen), knowing what I know, I feel like pushing her to meet Emhyr, particularly right then, is completely inappropriate. Which is the whole issue for me - yeah, maybe empress would be her choice, but the catalyst for that choice is Geralt bringing her to Emhyr. I just have a tough time justifying that in the first place.

 

Though I'm gonna do it in the NG+, I think.

[Akrabra]

Well its not like you shove her, its a suggestion for her to see her father. Geralt at that point can't know what it would possibly end in, and he gets the impression she won't even accept her heritage. Yet she comes to that conclusion on her own, and that seems like her choice, which i liked. I haven't done The Witcheress ending though, and i probably never will either. I'll Youtube it sometime. 

[Hazegurl]

I never take Ciri to see her father because I never see a reason to take her there. The only time you have that option is after the attack and what Ciri wants to do at that point in time is strike back at her pursuers and get some payback for Vesemir.  She was sick of feeling helpless so I always figure the best thing for her to do is to take the fight to the enemy.  Bringing up her father seemed rather pointless and out of the blue imo.

[slimgrin]

Playing Dragon's Dogma on PC, and damn, western devs need to study how Japanese devs fine tune their controls. I'm perfectly fine with how Geralt moves in combat but his standard movement is...lacking compared to this game. There's perfect fluidity and response in character action.