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[dirk5027]

The Baron's quest alone, is so insanely well put together, everything else is a plus, well worth the time and money spent, not a fan boy or anything, but as a "I don't usually care" type of person probably one of the best games and entertainment this industry has seen so far

[Ashelsu]

I remember Gothic, great games they were, popular in Germany and Eastern Europe. I also remember epic fights between Gothic and Elder Scrolls fanboys about which is better. Some of them wished their opponents' favourite to fail. Well, now Gothic is no more, and gaming world has become poorer because of it. So when so called fanboys of Witcher, Dragon Age or Skyrim wish for the "enemy" companies to go down, I don't think they really care about playing good games. More like football hooligans who don't really care about football but more about an opportunity to fight each other.

 

The more companies make RPG games the better choice I have. Because it means that today I can shoot bottles with Garrus and tomorrow I can look for my lost daughter while playing village detective master Geralt. (And for my Geralt there is only one woman - Yennefer. You don't have to play womanizer.)

Some things CDPR does better (sidequests, atmosphere) some things BioWare does (companions, VA). There is no shame admitting it. And there is no reason to not look how, say CDPR or Obsidian do quests. I'm sure developers do this all the time.

 

P.S. I had an opportunity to play W1 and W2 in three different languages, and sorry to say it, english VA was the worst for me. Really takes life from Geralt, Zoltan and some other characters. I heard that this time CDPR payed more attention to this matter  (still don't like english Geralt!) and hopefully it will draw more people in.

[RINNZ]

Since everyone keeps mentioning the BB questline, does anyone know where to find any remaining information about Anna Strenger? I wanna finish this quest and i dont know how.

And folks, lets remember not to get pissy with each other.

[VelvetV]

*snip*

 

Yes, I believe that you want lack of censorship. Whenever it suits you. *shrug*

 

Why? Because anyone who negatively judges BW as sell-outs to their fanbase lost their chance to argue that he is a warrior of some egalitarian lack of censorship. You can't want the best for everyone, while at the same time saying that fulfilling other people's wishes is somehow bad of BW. It's a simple logical contradiction. So I am a part of fanbase and I happen to like what BW does, yet it's somehow bad if BW does what I like, so they should stop? Uh... ok.

[AmberDragon]

Since everyone keeps mentioning the BB questline, does anyone know where to find any remaining information about Anna Strenger? I wanna finish this quest and i dont know how.
And folks, lets remember not to get pissy with each other.

Ok going to hide it behind a spoiler for people who haven't got to that quest

Spoiler

I got it by doing the Crookback bog quest, don't want to spoil it for you either but the quests are linked and your solution to that affects the BB quest, as I discovered in comments on this thread.

[VelvetV]

I was actually referring to interactive banter, the ones where your Inquisitor can join in. They said that was a thing but many people only got around one or two in a whole playthrough. That's not a very good new feature if it's that rare. I did get some usual banter though. Sometimes I would get 2 or 3 in a space of half an hour but other times I could explore a whole new map without them saying a word. But I definitely didn't get the 5 hours of banter this game supposedly has and that's such a waste. They really need to improve their banter system in the next game, specially considering the open world is here to stay (most likely).

 

Oh, I see. In that case I too had almost no cases of such banter!

 

In one iteration of banter I could choose whose side to support in an argument. That happened only once, as far as I can remember. I think Vivienne was suggesting my char to shut Cole up and I could choose whether to support her or him.

 

As far as banter I've heard goes, it really wasn't designed with interactivity in mind, so I'm pretty sure that it's not a bug. If they planned to add more chance for players to chirp in, then the plans were cancelled midway, I guess. Which is a shame. It's a lot more interesting when your char participates.

 

I think it could be a good idea for people to choose as an option if they want to hear banter frequently, very frequetly, rarely, or not at all. Those who explore every nook and cranny probably can't complain that they haven't heard enough, I definitely wouldn't, but people play at different speeds and there are many other reasons for why they're want to speed things up.

 

The funniest thing about banter is how they start to talk and don't stop even when attacked. These people are truly seasoned warriors, nothing can stress them while they're trying to crack a joke!

[VelvetV]

I don't know if you guys know Gothic or Gothic II, which were (and in a smaller amount still are) really popular here in Germany. These games were released 2000 and 2001 and it's really astonishing how natural the world there feels even now. Even if you're just running around, exploring every corner of the world you could easily find your death but also great items in the most unanticipated places. You really had to use your wits, as especially in the beginning every fight was really hard, but you could often trick or avoid enemies and still reach your objective. If you're clever, you could also often talk around fights or even only get certain quests if you choose the right dialogue options. And more or less nothing was marked on your map, so you really have to listen to the guys giving you quests because otherwise you simply won't find the right location. 

 

I loved Gothic games! Until the third, which featured a way too huge open-world. I remember that I never finished the main quest line, because I got bored with too much side questing to do. And those towns started to feel too repetitive. At some point I even forgot what the point of the game was. I guess it can be said that players who lost themselves in DA:I's endless side quests and stopped playing felt the same.

 

Gothic combat is a bit similar to the Witcher, though, so whoever hates combat in TW series shouldn't even look that way. Gothic was a lot more varied, though, with its extensive list of inventive magic spells, archery skills, pickpocketing, etc.

 

Haha, I was so scared of those big mosquitoes at the beginning of G2! Had to run around and away from them to avoid fighting. Although these days it's hard to be patient with such design with overpowered enemies, it boils down to having less free time. And transforming into a bug to crawl somewhere though the crack? That was priceless.

[Hazegurl]

For me social issues in DA is hardly a problem as all stories delve into social issues.  Once again, just look at the Baron quest, it has social issues written all over it.  However, my problem is how social issues can be handled.  IMO, BW handles their social issues rather poorly and it strips it of it's humanity whereas CDPR maintains it. Humans are complex creatures with many layers and I have to agree with Tishen that the Baron story by BW would have been a lackluster caricature with a sermon moreso than a humane story.

 

As for fantasy fulfillment, I don't think BW nor CDPR should cater to anyone's fantasies.  They should just tell their stories how they're meant to be told and whomever doesn't like it should simply find new entertainment to indulge in.  I've accepted that after playing W3 there is nothing else DA can offer me but their BSN forums for discussions et al.  But I will say that what I do love about BW games is that I can roleplay something other than a straight white male and I'll always love them for that.  I agree with Velvet that there is nothing wrong with a company changing to offer a chance for others to role play something different. IMO, the problem only occurs when the franchise loses it's foundation and bastardizes it's own lore to accommodate the changes.  Instead of just creating a new IP.  I can't imagine the TW series would have been if CDPR caved in to fans who wanted them to add a CC, make a brand new character that can be a woman, et al.  The story is about Geralt of Rivia, not random RPG main character #5.  And that's what I love CDPR for.

 

edit:  lol what on earth needed to be edited BWmod03???

Modifié par Hazegurl, 23 mai 2015 - 04:58 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

56 bloody pages?

 

This place like talking about The Witcher more than Dragon Age, it seems.

[Greetsme]

56 bloody pages?

 

This place like talking about The Witcher more than Dragon Age, it seems.

 

Well, for those of us that feel totally let down by DA:I, The Witcher 3 is our savoir, our redemption, our cigarette lighter in a very dark dust bin.

[Wyvernet]

I personally feel that Bioware doesn't necessarily cater to the whims of the fandom. From what I've gathered, looking at interactions with Bioware developers, the developers genuinely seem to believe in social justice issues. They believe in representation of gender and sexuality in media and they don't want to alienate players just in order to feel dark and gritty. Their dark and gritty moments are carefully chosen, such as what happens to that elf you if encourage her to join the Wardens, as opposed to meaningless background rape or abuse.

 

By the way, I'm not saying the Witcher has meaningless grittiness because I've never played the game (though the advocates of its role-playing aspects are starting to make me consider it).

[AresKeith]

Well, for those of us that feel totally let down by DA:I, The Witcher 3 is our savoir, our redemption, our cigarette lighter in a very dark dust bin.

 

Dramatic much? lol

[TheOgre]

Dramatic much? lol

No need to be agitated by someone's post and be snarky about it

[AlanC9]

By the way, I'm not saying the Witcher has meaningless grittiness because I've never played the game (though the advocates of its role-playing aspects are starting to make me consider it).

Give it a shot. On sale the earlier games can be really cheap.

[slimgrin]

I do feel this constant comparison to CDPR must chafe for the devs. For all my grievances in what DA ended up like, I don't feel the need to rub what I see as failure in their faces. Their vision for DA parted ways with me after the first game, and that's how it is. Witcher has nothing to do with it.

[AlanC9]

No need to be agitated by someone's post and be snarky about it

No need to comment on someone else commenting on someone else's posting style. Technically, I think all three of these posts are considered "spam."

[TheOgre]

No need to comment on someone else commenting on someone else's posting style. Technically, I think all three of these posts are considered "spam."

Yours including?

[AresKeith]

No need to be agitated by someone's post and be snarky about it

 

Who's agitated? 

[Shechinah]

Who's agitated? 

My jelly is. Now stop it before my soufflé collapses as well.

[TevinterSupremacist]

I just want to point out that no one is entitled to the existence of games that caters to him/her. Therefore, lack of games that caters to him/her, even constant, forever, never challenged lack of such games isn't something questionable.

[AlanC9]

Yours including?

Yep. That's why I said "three." Total's higher now, of course.

Greetsme's original post doesn't count, since while it was histrionic, it was at least nominally on-topic.

[Dobbysaurus]

The Witcher 3 will be way better than anything BioWare has ever done.

 

*hides*

 

Hey! I was right! 

[Shechinah]

 

 

Finally, we'll be able to settle the age-old wondered question of my country; Could the old vikings win against a tank!
 

[TheOgre]

Yep. That's why I said "three." Total's higher now, of course.

Greetsme's original post doesn't count, since while it was histrionic, it was at least nominally on-topic.

Just checking -- I think it's wise at this point to just add each other to the old ignore lists and get back on what we may want to see feature wise and don't want to see.

I really like the minimap feature in TW3. The combat is fast paced yet it doesn't feel like a hold x to victory too, the ecironment seems to be more utilized for the story instead of just beautiful landscape too. Day night cycle, a plus. The hair is a lot less plastic doll like as well.

[KotorEffect3]

Dragon Age just needs to be Dragon Age.