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#14001
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"Dragon Age" has somehow lost its brand and mythology.

"Dragon Age" has also lost its sense of surprise revelations.

This could easily apply to Dragon Age II but I would disagree in regards to Inquisition.

 

I may have a pretty long list of porblems with the game, but mythology and lore is not one of them. It may have focused more on the Elves but what was revealed and discovered on the Elven gods, the fade etc was still, in my opinion, incredibly interesting.


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Other people have mentioned this, but I would like DA to focus more on current events and less on bringing back ancient history. It's interesting to reveal the truth behind so many myths with Solas and ancient elves and Titans, but if those become the focus of the games, it's going to become another generic power high fantasy of super magical elves fighting humanity, and the current countries will become basic "humanity" placeholders to fight the elves rather than countries with different cultures to each other.
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Speaking about goty. There is a interesting poll going on on gamefaqs.com about which game was the most worthy overall Goty winner in their respective year.

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http://www.gamefaqs....373-pc/73304663

Of course it's only a small sample size and in no way representative but from my experience outside of this forum it catches the general opinion about the game. It's also interesting because it was done on a neutral gaming forum.

The consensus seems to be either that the game didn't deserve it's goty awards at all or that it only won so many because it had a very weak competition and there wasn't a single outstanding game in 2014.

50 for Skyrim and 8 for Oblivion?

I can't breath.



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CDPR confirmed for  E3 this June. I doubt it's just for Blood & Wine.



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CDPR confirmed for  E3 this June. I doubt it's just for Blood & Wine.

 

Don't get your hopes up. 



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CDPR confirmed for  E3 this June. I doubt it's just for Blood & Wine.

Where did you see that ?



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Where did you see that ?

 

Here it is:

 

http://www.gamespot....6/1100-6435140/



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Exciting.

Hopefully they have some juicy info a demos to share about Cyberpunk. Probably my most anticipated game at the moment, even though it's still an unknown ways off.

Looking at the list CDP thing I'm even remotely interested in at the moment. Although Bethesda might have news on Dishonored 2 to share I suppose.



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I know they said they paused production of Cyberpunk 2077 until they finished The Witcher 3's DLC cycle so won't really have anything to show, but I would love if they at least talked about it. 



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Don't get your hopes up. 

Well, BaW will likely be released before E3. And even if it's released after, I mean, would they really pay for very expensive booth just for an expansion? So I'm slightly optimistic we'll see or at least hear more about CP2077 *cross fingers*



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Well, BaW will likely be released before E3. And even if it's released after, I mean, would they really pay for very expensive booth just for an expansion? So I'm slightly optimistic we'll see or at least hear more about CP2077 *cross fingers*

Yeah, it's already announced, so no reason not to give some details of things that are pretty much locked down and hopefully show off some WiP footage.

It's been in some form of development for a few years now.



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I know they said they paused production of Cyberpunk 2077 until they finished The Witcher 3's DLC cycle so won't really have anything to show, but I would love if they at least talked about it. 

They didn't pause production of Cyberpunk 2077 to work on the TW3's DLC, most of the team has moved onto CP2077 with a sizable team working on TW3's DLCs.

 

http://www.gamesrada...cyberpunk-2077/



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They didn't pause production of Cyberpunk 2077 to work on the TW3's DLC, most of the team has moved onto CP2077 with a sizable team working on TW3's DLCs.

 

http://www.gamesrada...cyberpunk-2077/

Yeah, they got a release date. Just don't want to talk about it till the marketing starts.



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The Witcher series started off by Neverwinter Nights' engine,along with many games...so BioWare basically mothered these h*s. Without Neverwinter Nights 1,many of these RPG games won't be existed. BioWare please continue to shine and to be the pioneer you've always been...without any of these distractions! 



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The Witcher series started off by Neverwinter Nights' engine,along with many games...so BioWare basically mothered these h*s. Without Neverwinter Nights 1,many of these RPG games won't be existed. BioWare please continue to shine and to be the pioneer you've always been...without any of these distractions! 

Ooooookay? :huh: So Bioware should thank Battlefield for the Frostbite engine DAI uses?


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Ooooookay? :huh: So Bioware should thank Battlefield for the Frostbite engine DAI uses?

You didn't know ? Dice mothered DA:I.


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The Witcher series started off by Neverwinter Nights' engine,along with many games...so BioWare basically mothered these h*s. Without Neverwinter Nights 1,many of these RPG games won't be existed. BioWare please continue to shine and to be the pioneer you've always been...without any of these distractions! 

Yeah, absolutely. Hadn't it been for BioWare, CDPR would have given up on their project and none of their products would have seen the light of day. Ever.

 

Or they'd just have picked a different engine and gone ahead anyway. One of those two.



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The Witcher series started off by Neverwinter Nights' engine,along with many games...so BioWare basically mothered these h*s. Without Neverwinter Nights 1,many of these RPG games won't be existed. BioWare please continue to shine and to be the pioneer you've always been...without any of these distractions! 

 

Yes well then Bioware proceeded to make increasingly less compelling experiences (or we could say, less unique), starting pretty much immediately after with Dragon Age: Origins, (sorry Bioware team and people's just being objective!) culminating in the ME trilogy which was just very watered down.

 

Like it or not, whatever advantage Bioware used to have, CDPR makes better games than Bioware currently, well, actually, a number of better games and options are around, and given the kind of general stagnation and such and attachment by fans to stuff like DA it's probably save to say that this will be the norm going forward.

 

SWTOR is honestly the only current evidence that their used to be a different company offering unique experiences buried beneath all this other stuff, but nowadays with KOTFE that feels like it's disappearing as well.



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Yes well then Bioware proceeded to make increasingly less compelling experiences (or we could say, less unique), starting pretty much immediately after with Dragon Age: Origins, (sorry Bioware team and people's just being objective!) culminating in the ME trilogy which was just very watered down.
 
Like it or not, whatever advantage Bioware used to have, CDPR makes better games than Bioware currently, well, actually, a number of better games and options are around, and given the kind of general stagnation and such and attachment by fans to stuff like DA it's probably save to say that this will be the norm going forward.
 
SWTOR is honestly the only current evidence that their used to be a different company offering unique experiences buried beneath all this other stuff, but nowadays with KOTFE that feels like it's disappearing as well.


Then again, I have almost every Bioware title, and have yet to make the step towards CDPR. While GOG remains my fave source for games, I prefer Bioware titles.

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Then again, I have almost every Bioware title, and have yet to make the step towards CDPR. While GOD remains my fave source for games, I prefer Bioware titles.

 

You mean GOG? :lol:

 

Anyway my intent was to harmonize that position by making a point which somehow didn't totally get made, which is that...

 

Baldur's Gate OC, NWN OC, even really earlier Dragon Age, SWTOR vanilla, possibly even Sonic to be honest, were more interesting and exciting than The Witcher series, sure.

 

But all the kind of, second attempt stuff like Throne of Bhaal, Shadows of Amn, Shadow of Undrentide, Jade Empire (which actually wasn't a sequel though), Awakening, Inquisition, Knights of the Fallen Empire, the entire ME trilogy, all the ME and DA DLC..

 

i.e. the kind of current slate is less interesting and exciting than the Witcher series.

 

I don't know really what the exact story is on Shattered Steel and MDK2 is to be honest..

 

That was all the "Whatever advantage they once had" comment was intended to mean.

 

My sense is looking forward that's the norm, technically could be wrong but there just isn't really any news out of Bioware these days about much of anything.

 

Of course all that said, people are going to play what they're going to play and all that..



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You mean GOG? :lol:
 
Anyway my intent was to harmonize that position by making a point which somehow didn't totally get made, which is that...
 
Baldur's Gate OC, NWN OC, even really Dragon Age, SWTOR vanilla, possibly even Sonic to be honest, were more interesting and exciting than The Witcher series, sure.
 
But all the kind of, second attempt stuff like Throne of Bhaal, Shadows of Amn, Shadow of Undrentide, Jade Empire, Awakening, Inquisition, Knights of the Fallen Empire, the entire ME trilogy, all the ME and DA DLC..
 
i.e. the kind of current slate is less interesting and exciting than the Witcher series.
 
I never played Shattered Steel so couldn't say.
 
That was all the "Whatever advantage they once had" comment was intended to mean.
 
My sense is looking forward that's the norm, technically could be wrong but there just isn't really any news out of Bioware these days about much of anything.


HotU still stands well, and I personally enjoy DA2 and DAI. As for DLC, I have many sessions in The Citadel, Legacy, Trespasser, BDtS, and MotA.

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HotU still stands well, and I personally enjoy DA2 and DAI. As for DLC, I have many sessions in The Citadel, Legacy, Trespasser, BDtS, and MotA.

 

Yeah, true, Hordes of the Underdark was pretty cool, can't deny. It still was defined by things that showed up in the OC like Aribeth was somewhat central again though to a degree, as well as just the entire rule-set etc. It was a lot less not fun than most sequels though for some reason.

 

DA kind of is like a slow death to be honest, lol. Like it just has this life essence and it kind of flickers and shows up and then goes away, and then comes back a tiny bit, it's been going in the wrong direction though.

 

Like Inquisition seemed from the outset to be like 18-19% of the core DA world experience, so yes it still is there in some degree or another, which, for hardcore fans, is enough to prefer and play it I suppose.

 

It's common for companies to have iterations and cycles, Blizzard had like expansions that moved in different directions for WoW and such, but it felt like Blizzard could summon the kind of "old school spirit" when necessary, whereas with Bioware there is barely any indication or awareness of that at all, and even less indication it could be re-summoned.

 

As strange as it sounds (and this isn't meant to be accusatory or anything) I'm not entirely convinced there's even for instance anyone on the MEA team that like actually completed Neverwinter Nights, for instance. I mean hey as I just said I haven't played Shattered Steel, but from people that did play it, it apparently had like an amazing OST and stuff.



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Interesting interview with Karolina Stachyra, one of the lead writers. She says only 6 people wrote for TW3. Pretty crazy. I think they'll need more for Cyberpunk. 

 

https://www.reddit.c...r_an_interview/


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Interesting interview with Karolina Stachyra, one of the lead writers. She says only 6 people wrote for TW3. Pretty crazy. I think they'll need more for Cyberpunk. 

 

https://www.reddit.c...r_an_interview/

 

I loved the writing so definitely a job well done for the writers. It makes me excited to see what they'll do with Cyberpunk.


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Well on the more positive side count me as intrigued about Cyberpunk as well.