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[ashwind]

Interesting interview with Karolina Stachyra, one of the lead writers. She says only 6 people wrote for TW3. Pretty crazy. I think they'll need more for Cyberpunk. 

 

https://www.reddit.c...r_an_interview/

 

But 6 Polish man days is likely 12 or more American man days 

 

Oooo and it seems that TW3 is selling better on PC than consoles...

http://www.gamereact...an on consoles/

 

Not really surprising though... most developers treat PC customers like second class citizens. We have no choice but to throw our money at those who care more about us... even though TW3 too had to make compromises...

[vbibbi]

Interesting interview with Karolina Stachyra, one of the lead writers. She says only 6 people wrote for TW3. Pretty crazy. I think they'll need more for Cyberpunk. 

 

https://www.reddit.c...r_an_interview/

To be fair, 90% of the world building was already done through the books, and 75% of the characters. I just finished reading the book series and was surprised by how much of the game was already pulled from the books. Of course the games are going to pull directly from the books and they did a good job with that, but a lot of the story really seemed like just continuing the storyline from the books rather than creating a new, independent story. The later books are all about Geralt trying to find Ciri, just like TW3!

 

And some of the smaller quests were just repackaged from something in the book. This might have been most notable in TW1, with a lot of the side quests being copy-pasted versions of a short story (at least my impression from the video walkthroughs I saw since I didn't play it).

[Elhanan]

A new look into the development of SkyWind:

[Seraphim24]

By the way I take back whatever initial impression I gave, well, it was initial, er, well anyway, about the TW3 soundtrack, it's ultimately pretty amazing.

 

 

And for different flavor

 

Spoiler

 

The Witcher, you tortured beautiful thing...

[In Exile]

Interesting interview with Karolina Stachyra, one of the lead writers. She says only 6 people wrote for TW3. Pretty crazy. I think they'll need more for Cyberpunk. 

 

https://www.reddit.c...r_an_interview/

 

That probably explains the quality. I don't think they'll need more writers, and depending on how much the writers work and how many passes they're forced to make of their own script, more writers doesn't necessarily mean more quality.

A few good writers have tremendous advantages - the biggest being a coherent vision. 

[Seraphim24]

TW3 fan arts!

 

 

 

[Seraphim24]

Dragon age cosplay!

 

 

[slimgrin]

That probably explains the quality. I don't think they'll need more writers, and depending on how much the writers work and how many passes they're forced to make of their own script, more writers doesn't necessarily mean more quality.

A few good writers have tremendous advantages - the biggest being a coherent vision. 

 

By quality, do you mean good or bad?

 

When all is said and done, I think TW3 has some of the best writing in regard to emotional plots lines, humor and empathetic characters. But absolutely the worst when it came to politics, villains and the ending. Something went wrong during development. Either that or Blacha just isn't in the same league as Stepian for lead writer. Since CP will have class and gender selection, I expect there to be a lot more dialog. Or maybe they already have a separate writing team for that game. 

[Xetykins]

Dragon age cosplay!

 

 

 

 

Beautiful cass and Leli cosplay. Specially Cass!wow.. But we cant spam witcher pics here or we get closed

[Hanako Ikezawa]

By quality, do you mean good or bad?

 

When all is said and done, I think TW3 has some of the best writing in regard to emotional plots lines, humor and empathetic characters. But absolutely the worst when it came to politics, villains and the ending. Something went wrong during development. Either that or Blacha just isn't in the same league as Stepian for lead writer. Since CP will have class and gender selection, I expect there to be a lot more dialog. Or maybe they already have a separate writing team for that game. 

They also have the creator of Cyberpunk 2020 working directly with them, unlike the writer of the Witcher. He's waited years for what he felt were the right developers for a Cyberpunk game, so I doubt he will let them screw it up. Not saying he will micromanage since again he thinks they're the best pick for it, but I can see him giving guidance when needed. 

[In Exile]

By quality, do you mean good or bad?

When all is said and done, I think TW3 has some of the best writing in regard to emotional plots lines, humor and empathetic characters. But absolutely the worst when it came to politics, villains and the ending. Something went wrong during development. Either that or Blacha just isn't in the same league as Stepian for lead writer. Since CP will have class and gender selection, I expect there to be a lot more dialog. Or maybe they already have a separate writing team for that game.

I meant good. You're right that the politics went down the drain (lolwut Radovid?), but I think TW3 makes up for it with so many quality side quests. In my opinion, something like 70% of the quests in the game range from good to great in writing. The ending though I think is more an issue of going from personal to "epic" as a plot.

I'm not sure gender and class will mean much more writing but then I'm not sure how reactive CDPR will go on the player.

[Wolven_Soul]

I meant good. You're right that the politics went down the drain (lolwut Radovid?), but I think TW3 makes up for it with so many quality side quests. In my opinion, something like 70% of the quests in the game range from good to great in writing. The ending though I think is more an issue of going from personal to "epic" as a plot.

I'm not sure gender and class will mean much more writing but then I'm not sure how reactive CDPR will go on the player.

 

Yeah, totally should have kept the ending as personal as the rest of the game.  That and Eredin are really the only storytelling mistakes in the entire game.  The politics being weak really didn't hurt anything.  TW3 was never meant to be about politics, it was about a man searching for and protecting his daughter.  And then ultimately letting her stand on her own two feet.  The story worked best when it stuck to that. 

[slimgrin]

Yeah, totally should have kept the ending as personal as the rest of the game.  That and Eredin are really the only storytelling mistakes in the entire game.  The politics being weak really didn't hurt anything.  TW3 was never meant to be about politics, it was about a man searching for and protecting his daughter.  And then ultimately letting her stand on her own two feet.  The story worked best when it stuck to that.

 

They didn't have to abandon damn near every political thread though. I mean they tossed so much from TW2 aside to focus on Ciri, but this isn't Ciri's game. It's a trilogy about Geralt. She's honestly not nearly as interesting to me, in the game or the books. Once you find her, I think that should have meant closure, and the rest of the game should have been about the war. Everything revolving around Ciri represents the worst of Sapkowski's work - it's all high fantasy schlock. It should have been minimized or avoided. We brought this up many times on their site before the game released, and even the lead writer admitted Ciri was an author's pet, which makes me wonder why they included her beyond a sense of obligation to the source material.

[vbibbi]

Yeah, totally should have kept the ending as personal as the rest of the game.  That and Eredin are really the only storytelling mistakes in the entire game.  The politics being weak really didn't hurt anything.  TW3 was never meant to be about politics, it was about a man searching for and protecting his daughter.  And then ultimately letting her stand on her own two feet.  The story worked best when it stuck to that. 

I only finished the game once, where Ciri became empress, but I thought the actual ending scene was amazing. Her breaking down and asking if Geralt is going to try to stop her, their one last father-daughter day together, it was so good. And managed to make it intensely personal but also about politics.

[Catilina]

I only finished the game once, where Ciri became empress, but I thought the actual ending scene was amazing. Her breaking down and asking if Geralt is going to try to stop her, their one last father-daughter day together, it was so good. And managed to make it intensely personal but also about politics.

I finished only once too. Geralt lied to the emperor from Ciri. Ciri got her sword from Geralt, and lived as a witcher.

[vbibbi]

I finished only once too. Geralt lied to the emperor from Ciri. Ciri got her sword from Geralt, and lived as a witcher.

I think that's considered the "best" ending, but I really liked her becoming empress. Bitter sweet is always best! Plus, she can make more of a difference as empress, as she says.

[Catilina]

I think that's considered the "best" ending, but I really liked her becoming empress. Bitter sweet is always best! Plus, she can make more of a difference as empress, as she says.

Maybe once i will try. I remember, she dont interested about become empress, so my Geralt did not forced...

[vbibbi]

Maybe once i will try. I remember, she dont interested about become empress, so my Geralt did not force...

If you don't mind being spoiled, you can watch the scene on YouTube. It shows Geralt asking the same questions you are lol and Ciri shows that she came to the decision herself. Geralt has a nice line about searching the world for her, but never wanting to force her to do anything.

[Catilina]

If you don't mind being spoiled, you can watch the scene on YouTube. It shows Geralt asking the same questions you are lol and Ciri shows that she came to the decision herself. Geralt has a nice line about searching the world for her, but never wanting to force her to do anything.

Thank you, then I just was not listening   ( I dont mind the spoiler after I finished once.)
 

[Xetykins]

I actually liked Ciri. I also liked the more grounded personal theme. Not every game needs to be saving the world. I also think that there is just more than enough politics in game, and in some ways it is actually a big deal killing a king and putting a king or queen on the throne if you so choose to meddle. The world wouls go on without Geralt but not his personal quest, and I like that.

 

And I want to see Ciri in cp2077.

[Han Shot First]

They also have the creator of Cyberpunk 2020 working directly with them, unlike the writer of the Witcher. He's waited years for what he felt were the right developers for a Cyberpunk game, so I doubt he will let them screw it up. Not saying he will micromanage since again he thinks they're the best pick for it, but I can see him giving guidance when needed. 

 

This is worth a repost:

 

 

All aboard the hype train....

[Catilina]

I actually liked Ciri. I also liked the more grounded personal theme. Not every game needs to be saving the world. I also think that there is just more than enough politics in game, and in some ways it is actually a big deal killing a king and putting a king or queen on the throne if you so choose to meddle. The world wouls go on without Geralt but not his personal quest, and I like that.

 

And I want to see Ciri in cp2077.

But meanwhile incidentally they saved the world ...

[Xetykins]

But meanwhile incidentally they saved the world ...

True. Incidentally idd because the only way he could save his daughter is to defeat the hunt. Otherwise i dont think Geraltipoo gives a crap.

 

Actually, it's Ciri that saved the world and not your character.

[Wolven_Soul]

They didn't have to abandon damn near every political thread though. I mean they tossed so much from TW2 aside to focus on Ciri, but this isn't Ciri's game. It's a trilogy about Geralt. She's honestly not nearly as interesting to me, in the game or the books. Once you find her, I think that should have meant closure, and the rest of the game should have been about the war. Everything revolving around Ciri represents the worst of Sapkowski's work - it's all high fantasy schlock. It should have been minimized or avoided. We brought this up many times on their site before the game released, and even the lead writer admitted Ciri was an author's pet, which makes me wonder why they included her beyond a sense of obligation to the source material.

 

Ehh, I have never been one for politics in any case.  I love intrigue, but you can have great intrigue without having to involve politics.  Politics tend to get dull to me.  Which is why despite I did like TW2's story, I much prefer TW3's much more personal stories. 

 

I would agree that Ciri is not that interesting, but I still liked the character.  She's got a good heart and that's usually enough for me to at least like a character a little bit.  That, and she was a lot of fun to play as for me.  I liked her abilities.  She could have used more development though. 

 

I would also have liked more involvement with the war, but I get why they didn't go that way. Geralt doesn't give a crap about the war.  He might meddle in it from time to time to do things like help a deserting Nilfgardian soldier or whatever, but I really don't think he gives a crap about the overall direction of it.  I wanted the Wild Hunt storyline to be more fleshed out as near the end it just felt far to rushed. 

[Wolven_Soul]

I think that's considered the "best" ending, but I really liked her becoming empress. Bitter sweet is always best! Plus, she can make more of a difference as empress, as she says.

 

 

Disagree, I like happy endings the best.  Probably because real life sucks so much, lol.  Anyway, yeah, she can make more of a difference as Empress, but she has already saved the lives of everybody in the world by stopping the White Frost.  She's done enough.  Also, no matter how much good she does, a lot of people are still gonna want to murder her just for being a magic user.  So yeah, Witcher ending is best for me.