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[Grieving Natashina]

I sold it, but if I can find it again, I'll gladly take a screenshot. 

 

Thanks.  

[Ashelsu]

Well, Ciri is an adult now, time to think of more children...

Armor

Spoiler

I take it 7?

[Grieving Natashina]

Most of those are pretty nice.  A few make Geralt look too bulky, but I can see why modders love to steal TW assets for mods.   I think the only one that seems out and outright goofy looking is the second one from the right at the bottom. It looks...off.  It isn't the color, I think it's the way that the coat is resting against his hips in that shot.

 

Edit: Oh goodness, #7.  Yeah, being a Witcher is hard enough without wearing armor that looks like that.

[KBomb]

Well, Ciri is an adult now, time to think of more children...

Armor

Spoiler

I take it 7?

Yes! Thank you so much.

[In Exile]

 

Oh come now, I don't where you are right now at the game, but generally all types and tiers of witcher specific armors look quite different than the regular "historically accurate" armors that offend you so much.

 

In any case, I'll take those armors any day over the usual crap that's called "fantasy armor".

 

Pretty early in the game. I saw the above spoiler picture of armours, and really none of the ones I found look anything like those; the closest comes to the 2nd from the bottom left corner. That's what I find abominable, as well as the to the right next to it, and the one above and to the left. I find a few of the others quite ugly, but tolerable.

The only ones I like are the leftmost top, the bottommost right, and the one above the bottomost right.  

[wolfhowwl]

Where are these "large villages" in Inquisition people keep talking about? Crestwood? That village had like six houses, barely larger than the smaller villages in TW3. The Hinterlands Crossroads, which wasn't a village? Redcliffe was the only village that was decent in size, but even then, look at Crow's Perch. There's no comparison whatsoever.

 

The fact that these small clusters of houses in TW3 feel more bustling with life than Orlais or a major village like Redcliffe is a problem that Bioware needs to address. You can't get away with such lazy design choices these days, not when everyone else puts a lot of effort into these areas.

 

I agree, it's a glaring deficiency. Witcher 3 is the big game now but you also have Rockstar, Bethesda, and Ubisoft making open world as well and they all in their own ways invest heavily. If you're moving into that space you need to compete and coming in a generation(s) behind in your world design isn't acceptable. The static NPCs and tiny "towns" was already an issue with their seventh-gen games. It was more of a problem with Dragon Age with Denerim and especially Kirkwall since Mass Effect at least focused on other things.

[Grieving Natashina]

 

Pretty early in the game. I saw the above spoiler picture of armours, and really none of the ones I found look anything like those; the closest comes to the 2nd from the bottom left corner. That's what I find abominable, as well as the to the right next to it, and the one above and to the left. I find a few of the others quite ugly, but tolerable.

The only ones I like are the leftmost top, the bottommost right, and the one above the bottomost right.  

 

 

...And here I am wishing that I could make #1 and #8 as armor in Inquisition.  

 

Hopefully you'll find something you like.  

[Elhanan]

Let´s say, for the sake of the argument, that DAI has lots of life, activity and animals;
 
The Witcher 3 not only have more, but they are better placed and distributed, because I do remember much more the mundane activity in TW 3.  The world in TW3 is way more alive, from the lines to enter the blockaded villages, to the large settlements - and if you stop to overhear people, you can get hints for quests.
 
I am not even going into the merit of which world is better, but TW 3 is way more realistic. More animals and more people in larger areas doing all kinds of different things: eating, guarding, sleeping, working, walking, waiting, arguing, gossiping, cleaning, playing cards, dating, kids running around and so on.
 
DAI has some of this stuff sprinkled here and there but it really is not on the same level.

I will not know because I am not playing TW3; nor have I played the previous titles. The world looks fairly amazing, but the culture of the game is repellent to me. Profanity is frequently found including the mini-game, as are nudity, sexual matters, and a reported misuse of women. The latter seems to be debatable, but the comparisons made to GoT has me wary. So I choose to skip them both.

Here I try not to criticize TW3 except for the things I know exist (eg; hardcoded keys incl movement), but will try and give a proper defense/ feedback of DAI. Personally hope that TW3 does very well, but am annoyed that some choose to denigrate DAI over matters while praising the other, and it has similar problems.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, Ciri is an adult now, time to think of more children...

Armor

Spoiler

I take it 7?

I never thought I'd say this, but DAI's armor looks better than that. 

[KBomb]

I will not know because I am not playing TW3; nor have I played the previous titles. The world looks fairly amazing, but the culture of the game is repellent to me. Profanity is frequently found including the mini-game, as are nudity, sexual matters, and a reported misuse of women. The latter seems to be debatable, but the comparisons made to GoT has me wary. So I choose to skip them both.

Here I try not to criticize TW3 except for the things I know exist (eg; hardcoded keys incl movement), but will try and give a proper defense/ feedback of DAI. Personally hope that TW3 does very well, but am annoyed that some choose to denigrate DAI over matters while praising the other, and it has similar problems.

I am not trying to unfairly criticize DAI. I love both games. I like The Witcher 3 more, but in no way does that lesson my like for DAI.

As far as game mechanics and bugs, I can't comment on as I have literally not encountered one bug after twenty-six hours of gameplay. /knockonwood

I can comment on scenery and side quests and things of that nature and I don't feel like anything I've said has been unfair.

[wolfhowwl]

A video game is obviously always a charade but it seems that Witcher 3 did a good job making the experience feel like a cohesive world instead of a level where you can see the seams that instantly remind you it's a game. With DA:I, while playing you get the feeling that someone diligently checked their spreadsheet and placed the approved amount of collectibles and level appropriate monsters in their assigned zone and then moved on. Here we see the effect of big things like quality side-content, quest design, and towns as well as all the little details and touches that add to the atmosphere.

 

Regarding choice and consequence and divergent content, absolutely. Some of Obsidian's games are also great examples.

 

If you're wanting BioWare to change their usual writing style (which I might describe as young adult fiction) and become something else, well that's probably not going to happen.

 

As far as combat goes, I hope no one said that in this thread. If they're going to make an action game, there is a title with better combat that also has a party (this is important for DA games) in Capcom's Dragon's Dogma that they should look at. It's open world too.

[SnakeCode]

I am not trying to unfairly criticize DAI. I love both games. I like The Witcher 3 more, but in no way does that lesson my like for DAI.

As far as game mechanics and bugs, I can't comment on as I have literally not encountered one bug after twenty-six hours of gameplay. /knockonwood

I can comment on scenery and side quests and things of that nature and I don't feel like anything I've said has been unfair.

 

Also, i'd think people who have had some experience with both titles would be better equipped to make balanced arguments on the pros and cons of both games. Especially when comparing the two. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

I also hope Bioware take a leaf out of CDPR and make funny stuff like this.

 

 

I stumbled on this by accident and had a good LOL moment.

 

I prefer these types of hidden cheeky humor instead of over the top facepalm worthy humor that someone like, say, Iron Bull uses all the time. 

[In Exile]

I find that to be pretty obnoxious. But I tend to dislike self congratulatory praise and self promotion.

[SnakeCode]

A video game is obviously always a charade but it seems that Witcher 3 did a good job making the experience feel like a cohesive world instead of a level where you can see the seams that instantly remind you it's a game. With DA:I, while playing you get the feeling that someone diligently checked their spreadsheet and placed the approved amount of collectibles and level appropriate monsters in their assigned zone and then moved on. Here we see the effect of big things like quality side-content, quest design, and towns as well as all the little details and touches that add to the atmosphere.

 

Regarding choice and consequence and divergent content, absolutely. Some of Obsidian's games are also great examples.

 

If you're wanting BioWare to change their usual writing style (which I might describe as young adult fiction) and become something else, well that's probably not going to happen.

 

As far as combat goes, I hope no one said that in this thread. If they're going to make an action game, there is a title with better combat that also has a party (this is important for DA games) in Capcom's Dragon's Dogma that they should look at. It's open world too.

 

I think a big difference (at least to me) is that in TW3 you feel like a small part of a living, breathing world, not the reason for it's entire existence.

 

Thedas feels like it would never change or evolve. It would stagnate and nothing would ever happen without the input of the player character. In short, the world is just a series of spaces which exist for the protagonist to run around and complete quests. It feels as though the Inquisitor is the cog that keeps the world turning.

 

With TW3, Geralt is but a part of the world around him, just like everyone else. If he died, nothing would change. It feels like the world would just keep on moving whether Geralt existed or not. This is in part due to the world closely mimicking the workings of our own earth, at least aesthetically.

[SnakeCode]

I find that to be pretty obnoxious. But I tend to dislike self congratulatory praise and self promotion.

 

You mean like when Iron Bull (Bioware) congratulates Cassandra (themselves ) on using practical non sexualised armor? I agree.

[In Exile]

You mean like when Iron Bull congratulates Cassandra (themselves ) on using practical non sexualised armor? I agree.

More or less. If she had said it was made by the smith Biowarus or something similar, then it would be just as obnoxious. It's a similar type of thing. The DRM bit is funny. Its the GOG plug that takes it too far.

Edit: actually the equivalent would be if she said she got it on "Origin".

[Eelectrica]

I also hope Bioware take a leaf out of CDPR and make funny stuff like this.

 

 

I stumbled on this by accident and had a good LOL moment.

 

I prefer these types of hidden cheeky humor instead of over the top facepalm worthy humor that someone like, say, Iron Bull uses all the time. 

That is awesome.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You mean like when Iron Bull (Bioware) congratulates Cassandra (themselves ) on using practical non sexualised armor? I agree.

Especially when it doesn't make sense since it comes from the guy whose canon armor is him being topless. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

More or less. If she had said it was made by the smith Biowarus or something similar, then it would be just as obnoxious. It's a similar type of thing. The DRM bit is funny. Its the GOG plug that takes it too far.

Edit: actually the equivalent would be if she said she got it on "Origin".

 

CDPR owns GoG so them making this plug is not obnoxious. 

 

Incidentally...

 

Biowarus ? I like that name. Going to give that name to my RPG characters for the playthroughs where I make bad choices for the awful endings.  

[In Exile]

CDPR owns GoG so them making this plug is not obnoxious.

Incidentally...

Biowarus ? I like that name. Going to give that name to my RPG characters for the playthroughs where I make bad choices for the awful endings.

Owning GOG is exactly what makes the plug obnoxious. It goes from a shot at DRM (har-har, we all hate it, amirite?) to how great their own product is at avoiding it (despite being a form of it though not how people usually use that term but that's besides the point). Bioware's line is a less obnoxious because they're at least hiding behind the fact there's a popular trope they're taking a shot at more generally.

[KBomb]

More or less. If she had said it was made by the smith Biowarus or something similar, then it would be just as obnoxious. It's a similar type of thing. The DRM bit is funny. Its the GOG plug that takes it too far.

Edit: actually the equivalent would be if she said she got it on "Origin".

It's just a bit of cheeky fun. Something for the fans to find and laugh about.

[Shechinah]

Humour is very subjective so some might like the joke and others might not. People can consider it cheeky fun, some can be indifferent and others can consider it obnoxious. None of these opinions are more right than the other nor less valid than the former.

[Akrabra]

Actually i wanna give some props to EA Origin. They are selling both Pillars of Eternity and The Witcher 3 at their store, for good prices i might add. I know that EA is a buisness and they want to make money, but still i think its a nice step towards beeing more open to games that are in contest with their own for sales and media coverage. 

[SofaJockey]

I will not know because I am not playing TW3; nor have I played the previous titles. The world looks fairly amazing, but the culture of the game is repellent to me. Profanity is frequently found including the mini-game, as are nudity, sexual matters, and a reported misuse of women. The latter seems to be debatable, but the comparisons made to GoT has me wary. So I choose to skip them both...

 

I respect those views.

The language in TW3 is certainly more explicit.

Nudity and sex appears to be similar to DAI.

I haven't seen any misuse of women, and I might add that portrayal of gay/cross-dressing characters seen so far has been sensitively handled.

 

In all honesty, any accusations of bigotry it may attract has I suspect more to do with some of the knuckle-dragging fans it has than the game itself.

I think it's a terrific game, also my view of DAI, but they are different.