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[panzerwzh]

I remember during development when they were shopping for publishers it was mentioned that MP could be a thing. Gotta think that publisher they were referring to was EA who seem to think shoehorning MP into everything ever is a fantastic idea.

 

I'm not against MP, but if the game isn't developed from the ground up with MP in mind, it just won't work.

 

Hopefully the complete failure of DAIMP means the next DA game is SP only. Or I suppose if they must have MP, go the D:OS approach with dual protagonists and make an option co-op adventure out of it whilst keeping SP very much in the picture as D:OS did.

 

One cool thing I was able to do in D:OS was have a Geralt and Ciri playthrough. Set one character up like Geralt, who had points in 2handed and some basic magic skills and made a DD rogue. Very cool

Remove MP from future DA games? Not likely, especially considering the coming trend for more microtransaction and random skin drops (a.k.a. Overwatch).

[The Hierophant]

Posted my discovery of this reference/easter egg earlier on Gamefaqs...

 

Found on the bodies of a few noblemen in Toussaint are letters written by a Belle de Gunnes who sent her suitors on suicidal quests (body in monster den with Grandmaster Feline Diagrams) to collect monster hides she claims are in fashion. She's named after an irl serial killer who murdered around 40-50 of her boyfriends, fiances, and husbands for their money. Bruiser of a woman too.  

 

https://en.m.wikiped...i/Belle_Gunness

[Blooddrunk1004]

I remember during development when they were shopping for publishers it was mentioned that MP could be a thing. Gotta think that publisher they were referring to was EA who seem to think shoehorning MP into everything ever is a fantastic idea.

 

I'm not against MP, but if the game isn't developed from the ground up with MP in mind, it just won't work.

 

Hopefully the complete failure of DAIMP means the next DA game is SP only. Or I suppose if they must have MP, go the D:OS approach with dual protagonists and make an option co-op adventure out of it whilst keeping SP very much in the picture as D:OS did.

 

One cool thing I was able to do in D:OS was have a Geralt and Ciri playthrough. Set one character up like Geralt, who had points in 2handed and some basic magic skills and made a DD rogue. Very cool

It will never happen, EA only sees future in multiplayer and forces online feature on every single game. It's the reason why games like ME3 and DA suffered from it to some extend, even Mirrors Edge 2 now has it which is just absurd.

 

I expect Andromeda to be another horde mode shootfest, it will be fun for about half an hour before it will become boring and repetitive.

[panzerwzh]

It will never happen, EA only sees future in multiplayer and forces online feature on every single game. It's the reason why games like ME3 and DA suffered from it to some extend, even Mirrors Edge 2 now has it which is just absurd.

 

I expect Andromeda to be another horde mode shootfest, it will be fun for about half an hour before it will become boring and repetitive.

EA never change. This is also the reason I uninstall origin from my hard-drive completely. BTW GOG did it again, Homeworld 1+2 remastered 50% off and DRM free (AUD$13).

 

https://www.gog.com/...ered_collection

[The Elder King]

It will never happen, EA only sees future in multiplayer and forces online feature on every single game. It's the reason why games like ME3 and DA suffered from it to some extend, even Mirrors Edge 2 now has it which is just absurd.

 

I expect Andromeda to be another horde mode shootfest, it will be fun for about half an hour before it will become boring and repetitive.

In what way did they suffer from it? Because they took up resources that there shouldn't have been available?

ME3 suffered from it becasue of Bioware's nonsensical decision to tie one ending with playing the MP. DAI MP, as far as I know was received worse then ME3', but it didn't affect the SP. 

I'm not exactly a big fan of MP, but ME3 and DAI wouldn't have been magically better if they weren't in. 

[Nette]

Lol that makes me wish I'd have chosen Heroic.

I picked reclining. This is how that turned out:

Spoiler

 

[Wolven_Soul]

This.

As I understand it, the DA leads didn't want to continue developing on the older platforms, but orders came from the higher ups worried about their precious sales.

Irony is had they cut the old systems loose they would have made a better game, and more than likely had more sales anyway.

The people at ground level, the programmers working on it wouldn't have been blind to the problems, but orders are orders.

 

Yeah, I know a lot of people give Bioware flack for the way their games have been lately, but really it's more EA's fault than it is Bioware's.  I am sure the developers, who actually have the passion and desire to make fantastic games are constantly at odds with their publisher overlords.

[Wolven_Soul]

It will never happen, EA only sees future in multiplayer and forces online feature on every single game. It's the reason why games like ME3 and DA suffered from it to some extend, even Mirrors Edge 2 now has it which is just absurd.

 

I expect Andromeda to be another horde mode shootfest, it will be fun for about half an hour before it will become boring and repetitive.

 

I actually had a lot of fun with ME3's multiplayer.  I played it for hours and hours.  In fact, it's the fondest memory I have of the game.  Yeah it was pretty simple, but I didn't mind that so much.  I am hoping though that if it is in Andromeda that they make it better.

[The Hierophant]

Don't know why but i ended up rereading the history of the Abandoned Tower where Ciri, and the Bloody Baron fought that cockatrice, but yeah...

 

Legend has it a beleaguered traveler stood at this towers gates. He begged shelter for the night, claiming he'd been injured, but the baron living inside was afraid the traveler was a spy and sent him away. Little did he know the traveler was a powerful mage, who cast a curse on the tower, it's inhospitable owner and all who dwelled inside. Soon thereafter the baron and all his retinue died in mysterious circumstances, and the tower fell into ruin.

 

Spoiler

Gaunter gets around.

[The Hierophant]

For those of you who don't know CDPR trademarked, and registered a logo for Gwent. Here's a link from Gwydden (thanks for the heads up) http://nerdleaks.com...-card-game-278 

[KBomb]

I picked reclining. This is how that turned out:

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Haha omg I am done. I know which pose I am choosing my next go round and every other playthrough after that.

[Onecrazymonkey1]

For some reason at the time I didn't think the reclining pose was going to look good, which is why I went for the heroic pose but hindsight is 20/20 and now reclining will definitely be my only choice in the future.

 

So how does everyone rate their favorite endings? I'm curious like that.

personally my favorites go like this.

 

Spoiler

 

1. Meet Orianna and tell her you'll come back for her, change your mind for Regis so he is happy and not running from the vampires in the end, Dettlaff lives, Anna lives, Syanna dies.

 

2. See the unseen elder- Everyone dies

 

3. Syanna and Anna make up. Regis is exiled, Dettlaff dead.

 

 I just can't get over how excellent Regis was, they did such a great job with him. I mean I already liked his character to begin with but I was a bit worried how he was going to be portrayed at first. I think I nearly shed a tear from reading his diary and I based my best ending on his happiness.... which I'm not sure if it makes me a bad person, or a sucker or what but I have no regrets. I think it was Slimgrim that said Regis was the ultimate bro right up there with Garrus and honestly, I think Regis passed him for me, all in one expansion; I can only imagine if he was given three games.

 

I also love how the vampires legitimately scared me in a way. They were some of the first character's in the Witcher world besides Gaunter that I felt fear from. when Geralt was sitting around talking to Dettlaff, Orianna and Regis, I remember feeling so uneasy. Like, here's a group of creature's that if any of them wanted to team up at any moment and destroy Geralt he wouldn't stand a chance.

 

EDIT: does anyone know how to hang Olgierd and iris's painting up? Someone said you could but it won't work for me. D:

[Xetykins]

First i think. I went with the 3rd and was a little uneasy. Deffo not my favorite because as much as I sympathize with Syanna, I can't get over how nonchalant she's been with everything shes done. This kind of delima I would like to see a lot of for next DA if there is one. She's like Loghain from DAO to me. So, off with her head!

[KBomb]

I had number three. Can't say I was 100% happy with it, but it seems a bit better than the others.

Also, I tried hanging that painting of Iris and had no luck. At all.

[Onecrazymonkey1]

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First i think. I went with the 3rd and was a little uneasy. Deffo not my favorite because as much as I sympathize with Syanna, I can't get over how nonchalant she's been with everything shes done. This kind of delima I would like to see a lot of for next DA if there is one. She's like Loghain from DAO to me. So, off with her head!

 
yeah, it's almost like I didn't feel any remorse coming from her at all and felt like nothing I said really registered, as if she was just biding her time until later to kill Anna during another family spat. I didn't see how a couple of understanding words could change her mind so easily and I really didn't like having to kiss her rear instead of calling her out on her action's. I do sympathize with her, just not as much as I would have liked. Maybe if I had more time getting to know her better I would have felt differently, as it stands it just feels like I scratched the surface with her.

 

It's interesting that you mentioned Logaine, because he did pop into my head at one point. I always hated some of his actions and could never condone them but I always loved the character, he was extremely well written, well at least I thought so. Sympathetic villains or anti hero's are like cat nip to me, I'm always intrigued by them. Gaunter O Dimm is probably the only evil character for evil's sake that I actually enjoy.
 
Also, by the end I didn't like Anna either, which is a shame because I liked her in the beginning but I really felt it was true that she didn't have much compassion, at least not for anyone other than her sister. I mean if Syanna dies and you kill Dettlaff, she still throws Geralt in prison! I mean what? how thankless. However even though I thought she was a horrible ruler, I didn't want her to die for it.

 

Dettlaff, I go back and forth on, the whole attack on the city really ticked me off but I still felt he was a victim, like some naive kid that throws a tantrum because they haven't been socialized properly. In a way he kind of reminded me of a male Morrigan stunted by a lack of human interaction but one that over time can legitimately become a good person through the right guidance. Dettlaff did have Regis to speak up for him though, which I think helped his case on my part.

 

I really do love these types of dilemmas and it would be something I would love in another Dragon age as well. An ending where there is no right ending, one that always has me thinking if I made the right choices or not, Which I do think Origin's captured beautifully.

 

uh anyway, sorry for blabbing so much, I guess the game put me in a more talkative mood than usual. I usually just lurk.

 

EDIT: man, someone said you can hang the painting starry night as well but I can't get that to work for me either.

[KBomb]

I am curious about something...

Spoiler

How many people killed Thumbelina? I killed her, but not intentionally. I went to run around her and..squat. I felt kinda bad about it lol. Like, whoopsies.

[Xetykins]

Lol KBomb! Me ofc! Accidentally ofc. I didnt see the damned thing.

[KBomb]

Lol KBomb! Me ofc! Accidentally ofc. I didnt see the damned thing.

I have a bad habit of cursing at my video game NPC's and when she got kind of snide with me, I said, "Oh shut up, b-word." then ended her life. My friend laughed and said I murdered her in cold blood! I didn't though. It was involuntary manslaughter at most.

[FKA_Servo]

Spoiler

So, breaking into Moreau's lab... I was kinda disappointed that there wasn't any encounter with whoever had beaten me to the punch. Two things occur to me - either whoever I was following had gone down there long before and was a skeleton, or I just missed it.

 

I'll cop to not trying to shimmy down that rope outside the lab, only because I don't think Geralt shimmies. Did I miss anything though?

[Hazegurl]

For some reason at the time I didn't think the reclining pose was going to look good, which is why I went for the heroic pose but hindsight is 20/20 and now reclining will definitely be my only choice in the future.

 

So how does everyone rate their favorite endings? I'm curious like that.

personally my favorites go like this.

 

Spoiler

 

1. Meet Orianna and tell her you'll come back for her, change your mind for Regis so he is happy and not running from the vampires in the end, Dettlaff lives, Anna lives, Syanna dies.

 

2. See the unseen elder- Everyone dies

 

3. Syanna and Anna make up. Regis is exiled, Dettlaff dead.

 

 I just can't get over how excellent Regis was, they did such a great job with him. I mean I already liked his character to begin with but I was a bit worried how he was going to be portrayed at first. I think I nearly shed a tear from reading his diary and I based my best ending on his happiness.... which I'm not sure if it makes me a bad person, or a sucker or what but I have no regrets. I think it was Slimgrim that said Regis was the ultimate bro right up there with Garrus and honestly, I think Regis passed him for me, all in one expansion; I can only imagine if he was given three games.

 

I also love how the vampires legitimately scared me in a way. They were some of the first character's in the Witcher world besides Gaunter that I felt fear from. when Geralt was sitting around talking to Dettlaff, Orianna and Regis, I remember feeling so uneasy. Like, here's a group of creature's that if any of them wanted to team up at any moment and destroy Geralt he wouldn't stand a chance.

 

EDIT: does anyone know how to hang Olgierd and iris's painting up? Someone said you could but it won't work for me. D:

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The first ending I got was Detlaff, Seyanna, and Anna Henreitta dying.  I felt bad for Seyanna and helped her get that ribbon, I so wish I hadn't because I care about Regis more than I care about any of them and I hate the fact that he had to kill his blood brother and go on the run.

 

But as endings go I would have been fine with the Duchess and her sister dying, I couldn't stand them both before it was over.

 

This time I'm gonna go with not getting that Ribbon as my personal ending. The Duchess will live but at least Regis would be better off.

 

 

Next time I'm picking the reclining pose! I went with Heroic because I thought the reclining one would look stupid and they wouldn't like me use Roach for the horseback one.

 

Oh yeah and Regis for Broromance.

[nici2412]

So I finally finished the addon

 

Spoiler

I got the depressing ending, in which everybody died and Regis had to flee. Of course I'm going to replay the last part to get a better canon ending. No way my Geralt will settle down in a Toussaint not ruled by Anna Henrietta.

 

As for the four main characters:

 

Anna Henrietta: Really cool (and hot, especially her accent and the way she talks) character. Slightly different than in the books (I imagined her to be a bit more "crazy", yet everything she did in the game was pretty reasonable). Tbh I felt a bit in love with her and was pretty depressed after Syanna killed her.

 

Regis: CDP completely nailed his character. He is one of the very few 100% good-natured characters in the Witcher world and just like in the books he suffered because of this in the end. He died in the books to help Geralt to save Ciri- a person he never met- and again sacrificed his well-being for another person. Though this time it was someone who was close to him, what made the ending (him being forced to kill Dettlaff) even more tragical. But at least he had "just" to flee this time. Yet it is still sad and somehow characteristic for the witcher world that Regis- who was the only one of the four, who didn't do anything wrong- had the least chance to get a happy ending.

 

Dettlaff: I felt really sorry for him, despite him being responsible for the death of several dozens of people. Regis described him pretty well. He was a very powerful, but also naive person, who was tricked over and over again.Dettlaff didn't know the concept of deceit and the manipulative nature of humans, because he never really lived in the human world. He spent his time with lesser vampires and after meeting and falling in love with Syanna, he got drown into a world, which was foreign to him. Geralt said at the beginning of their fight to Dettlaff  "I didn't want any of this to happen", which was exactly how I felt. Really great writing from CDP and an interesting and so far unique kind of "villain" in the witcher series.

 

Syanna: Imo the weakest of the four characters, but still ok. Maybe she didn't have such a big impact on me because she was more or less a copy of Renfri, a woman from one of the short stories in the witcher novels. The (assumed) curse of the black sun, a princess who was expelled because of it and seeked revenge afterwards. I still liked her though and could understand her motives and at least partly also her actions. Furthermore I enjoyed the time with her in the fairy-tale world, but would have prefered her dying instead of Dettlaff if it didn't mean that Geralt ends up in jail and stops being welcome in Toussaint. (I wanted to make my Geralt retire in his vineyard)

 

The story was great, not Hearts of Stone great (nothing beats Gaunter O'Dim) but far better than the main story of the base game.

The sidequests were excellent as always and the new gameplay mechanics a nice addition. Though half of the new mutations make Geralt completely overpowered, but it's the end anyway, so who cares.

The new monsters were great, especially the fights against Bruxas (and their design) were fantastic, though it was a bit disappointing that Alp's were basically red-haired Bruxas.

All in all.that's how you make an addon. It took me 40 hours to complete everything on Death March and I paid 18€ for it. I honestly felt like I'm robbing CD Project.

I'm sad that it's over now but with Wild Hunt+ Hearts of Stone+ Blood&Wine CDP created an 200+ hours masterpiece that every upcoming rpg has to beat and that will be very difficult for every developer. To be honest, I believe if anything can achieve the quality of Witcher 3 it can be only Cyberpunk 2077, yet no matter how good it will be,it won't have the same impact on me, even though I prefer a cyberpunk over a fantasy setting. The Witcher is something really unique considering it's one big story (even if not officially canon) of 8 books and 3 long games. I believe that they did the absolute right think to let the plot of the games start right after the books and create one huge adventure. In a few years I will reread all books and replay all games and will experience that 1000+ hours masterpiece of books and games again.

Now I'm going to replay the addon one more time. Then the waiting time for Cyberpunk will start. Still looking forward to Mass Effect though (in the end it's still my second favourite franchise) but after Mass Effect 3 and especially Dragon Age Inqusition my expectations are close to zero. Maybe that's a good thing though.

[zeypher]

So I finally finished the addon

 

Spoiler

I got the depressing ending, in which everybody died and Regis had to flee. Of course I'm going to replay the last part to get a better canon ending. No way my Geralt will settle down in Toussaint with Anna Henrietta dead.

 

As for the four main characters:

 

Anna Henrietta: Really cool (and hot, especially her accent and the way she talks) character. Slightly different than in the books (I imagined her to be a bit more "crazy", yet everything she did in the game was pretty reasonable). Tbh I felt a bit in love with her and was pretty depressed after Syanna killed her.

 

Regis: CDP completely nailed his character. He is one of the very few 100% good-natured characters in the Witcher world and just like in the books he suffered because of this in the end. He died in the books to help Geralt to save Ciri, a person he never met and again sacrificed his well-being for another person. Though this time it was someone who was close to him, what made the ending (him being forced to kill Dettlaff) even more tragical. But at least he had "just" to flee this time.

 

Dettlaff: I felt really sorry for him, despite him being responsible for the death of several dozens of people. Regis described him pretty well. He was a very powerful, but also naive person, who was tricked over and over again. Regis said at the beginning that Dettlaff doesn't know the concept of  deceit and the manipulative nature of humans, because he never really lived in the human world. He spent his time with lesser vampires and after meeting Syanna, he got drown into a world, which was foreign to him. Geralt said at the beginning of the fight with Dettlaff  "I didn't want any of this to happen", which was exactly how I felt. Really great writing from CDP and an interesting and so far unique kind of "villain" in the witcher series.

 

Syanna: Imo the weakest of the four characters, but still ok. Maybe she didn't have such a big impact on me because she was more or less a copy of Renfri, a woman from one of the short stories in the witcher novels. The (assumed) curse of the black sun, a princess who was expelled because of it and seeked revenge. I still liked her though and could understand her motives and at least partly also her actions. Furthermore I enjoyed the time with her in the fairy-tale world, but would have prefered her dying instead of Dettlaff if it didn't mean that Geralt ends up in jail and stops being welcome in Toussaint. (I wanted to make my Geralt retire in his vineyard)

 

The story was great, not Hearts of Stone great (nothing beats Gaunter O'Dim) but far better than the main story of the base game.

The sidequests were excellent as always and the new gameplay mechanics a nice addition. Though half of the new mutations make Geralt completely overpowered, but it's the end anyway, so who cares.

The new monsters were great, especially the fights against Bruxas (and their design) were fantastic, though it was a bit disappointing that Alp's were basically red-haired Bruxas.

All in all.that's how you make an addon. It took me 40 hours to complete everything on Death March and I paid 18€ for it. I honestly felt like I'm robbing CD Project.

I'm sad that it's over now but with Wild Hunt+ Hearts of Stone+ Blood&Wine CDP created an 200+ hours masterpiece that every upcoming rpg has to beat and that will be very difficult for every developer. To be honest, I believe if anything can achieve the quality of Witcher 3 it can be only Cyberpunk 2077, yet no matter how good it will be,it won't have the same impact on me, even though I prefer a cyberpunk over a fantasy setting. The Witcher is something really unique considering it's one big story (even if not officially canon) of 8 books and 3 long games. I believe that they did the absolute right think to let the plot of the games start right after the books and create one huge adventure. In a few years I will reread all books and replay all games and will experience that 1000+ hours masterpiece of books and games again.

Now I'm going to replay the addon one more time. Then the waiting time for Cyberpunk will start. Still looking forward to Mass Effect though (in the end it's still my secondd favourite franchise) but after Mass Effect 3 and especially Dragon Age Inqusition my expectations are close to zero. Maybe that's a good thing though.

Well said, the entire journey since start has been pretty good and one that i will remember fondly and of course replay cause it doesn't have any peers yet and  doesn't seem to for quite a while.

[Onecrazymonkey1]

I am curious about something...

Spoiler

How many people killed Thumbelina? I killed her, but not intentionally. I went to run around her and..squat. I felt kinda bad about it lol. Like, whoopsies.

 

The first time I stepped on her, it was an was an accident. I went to talk to her and when she didn't say anything important I ran off and expected that she would just push out of the way like everyone else I push out of the way in town. The second time it was on purpose.....but not on purpose from Geralt's perspective, just mine, I kind of made him slip her way.

 

I'm not evil I swear, I just thought it was really funny how she smooshed and he looked down at his shoe like he stepped on a little bug. 

[KBomb]

Does anyone know if dlc items from HoS and B&W will carry over to a NG+? Like weapons and armor?

[FKA_Servo]

Some surprising stuff does from HoS, like Iris and the pointdexter glasses. I would have thought they were considered quest items, but apparently not.

I think everything from BW does too, including the mutations.