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[KBomb]

It actually bugs roach too.

Everything Roach said was pure comedy gold.

[nfi42]

I just want to love Gwent so much, but I can't. I just can't get into it. I have won serveral games of it and you'd think that would spur me on to play more and like it. I can't though and it's unfortunate because I miss out on some missions and I have to dodge when people ask to play me.

 

I don't mind it much as a diversion.  As a completionest I finish the quests then never play it again.  The game is clearly designed such that the player wins most of the time  which is exactly what it needs to be as a game within a game. It lacks any depth beyond that.

[FKA_Servo]

I've probably got near 20-25 hours played in B&W so far. I haven't finished the main quest, have barely touched the sidequests, and haven't even hit three of the message boards yet. I've mostly been collecting GM gear. The music is not quite up to the standard of Eastern Velen and Skellige for me, but otherwise, this is a mofo of an expansion so far.

 

As to the main story...

 

Spoiler

I'm at the mission where I need to meet Damien at the castle, and I'm getting a point of no return pop up. Consensus suggests that the only thing that fails is the tourney quest and curing Viv, which I've done already.

 

Would you guys mind confirming that?

 

Also, a general observation - I kinda wish we weren't using novigrad crowns as currency. I know it would have been a move that could conceivably irritate a subset of players, but given that the Duchy of Toussaint is (as I understand it) a client state of NIlfgaard, it would have been kind of a nice touch if we had to change all our crowns for florens.

[nfi42]

I've mostly been collecting GM gear.

 

 

How much does it cost to craft a set of Gm gear?

 

I really must speed up my new game,  I can't wait to click on spoilers.

[FKA_Servo]

How much does it cost to craft a set of Gm gear?

 

I really must speed up my new game,  I can't wait to click on spoilers.

 

The Manticore gear is really cheap. All the other ones are a lot. If you buy the needed rare materials straight up, probably 10-15k each, maybe more.

 

I'm a little bit of a cheater. Ages ago, I added a stockpile of runes and glyphs - more than I need - with the console in preparation for my NG+. I've been selling those off to help pay for them.

Spoiler

RP justification is that I got a lot more than a chintzy sword and a pittance of gold for winning that tourney.

 

Those last couple of spoilers aren't really huge spoilers. I'm just vigilant because I wouldn't want to be a hypocrite. See my signature.

[nfi42]

The Manticore gear is really cheap. All the other ones are a lot. If you buy the needed rare materials straight up, probably 10-15k each, maybe more.

 

 

 

So I'm good to go if I go sailing in Skellige?  100,000 crowns easy on top of what else Ive sold.

 

Edit:  Yeah,  spoilers didn't spoil me,  they just show when quoting. 

[FKA_Servo]

So I'm good to go if I go sailing in Skellige?  100,000 crowns easy on top of what else Ive sold.

 

Edit:  Yeah,  spoilers didn't spoil me,  they just show when quoting. 

 

Yeah, you're good.

 

I don't know what happened to my money, since I too went sailing in Skellige. I think I must have dismantled all the relic gear rather than sold it.

[Wolven_Soul]

A good example of the current status in MEA forum:

http://forum.bioware...fect-andromeda/

 

Holy crap that OP was either a monumental moron, or a really bad troll.  Can't decide which.

[Wolven_Soul]

That just brings back the memories. Great now I'm sad again, I hate letting good things go.

 

Anyway, I don't know if anyone has seen these figurines but they were news to me and I thought they looked really good, especially for the price. I definitely want to try and snag all of them.

 

http://www.tfaw.com/...Geralt___501736

 

http://www.tfaw.com/...:-Ciri___503882

 

http://www.tfaw.com/...nnefer___503884

 

http://www.tfaw.com/...-Triss___501737

 

http://www.tfaw.com/...Eredin___503883

 

Also, can someone give their opinion about kicking Sarah the godling out of the house. In my previous game I let her stay but after finding out that she meets johnny later if you kick her out.... I honestly think that's better and safer for her. I just feel like a scumbag doing it and I'm at that point again and can't decide. Also does anyone believe that Geralt would help kill the witcher Karadin? I usually like to let him live but I'm trying to stay in character right now and feel confused.

 

I wanted to make a perfect save and now I think I'm over thinking everything.

 

Those figurines...I...well....you see.....I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!!!!

 

Ahem, sorry, lost control of myself there for a moment.  You ahh...had other things to say. 

 

I think kicking Sarah out is actually the better thing to do.  Yeah, you feel bad about it, but in Novigrad, where they are burning witches and elves at the stake, they wouldn't hesitate at a Godling.  Plus, she actually thanks you for it when you meet Johnny.  Hes' actually more upset at you for it than she is.  So she's a lot happier for it in my mind. 

 

Karadin, hmm, I dunno.  When I try to base decisions on what I think Geralt would do, I always remind myself, Geralt does not believe in lesser evils.  Don't know if that helps because it's a pretty murky area, like most situations in the Witcher.

[Wolven_Soul]

The tree spirit is a far greater evil than three crones, and think about the poor Tamara and poor folks in Downwarren, they are not deserved to ...

The implications of Blood Baron's quest is far beyond a broken marriage. As for the hardest choice in TW3, is Olgierd and Iris's fate for me. 

 

I dunno about that.  I feel no sympathy for the people of Downwarren.  They are the ones who choose to worship three ancient evil hags who literally eat children.  And Tamara joins a group of people who burn innocent witches and dopplers at stakes, and later elves, dwarves and other races.  So yeah, not a whole lot of sympathy for her either. 

 

Still, it would have been cool if they had let us deal with the tree spirit later.

[Xetykins]

I just finished a totally different pt on the blood and wine and omg I really really wished I could kill Orianna in real time. My fingers are itching like hell right now. Haalpppp!

It is funny that it was almost a different game compared from my first. And I bet the 3rd ending is totally diff too!.

I wish the next DA would implement something like this.

[Dutchess]

Finished the DLC, both the main quest and what little side content I had left to clear. 

 

Spoiler

Got the sad ending. Trying to get Syanna to talk to Dethlaff was my first instinct but I was playing with a neutral Geralt who is fairly okay with his role as a witcher and not keen on sparing monsters when they've shown to be murder-happy. Unfortunately, despite all Regis' claims his buddy didn't appear all that good, likeable or even grey as a villain. He could have been if not for his threat and decision to raze Beauclair to the ground with his army of lesser vampires and murder innocent people. So... bye Dethlaff. Sorry Regis. I did find it sad that Regis became anathema for vampires because of it and would have to leave Toussaint and go into hiding. 

 

I saw the murder on the duchess coming. I suspected she was the final victim before getting the note from the beggar to confirm it. Had a very strong suspicion that Syanna would try something when I went to talk to her and she said how she dislikes unfinished business, loose ends, and even cleaned up her room before leaving. Sadly it is apparently unavoidable that both sisters die on this path. I warned Damien of Syanna's intentions and it didn't help. Initially I didn't bring it up with the duchess after the ceremony because it felt like a bad moment for it, but then she immediately proceeded to bring Syanna over to talk. Reloaded to see if warning her would make a difference, but nope. It seems rather foolish and naive for this shrewd, intelligent and powerful woman to be that trusting and blind when it comes to the sister she hasn't seen in years and whom she knows is responsible for multiple murders. Syanna is family, I get that, but as someone who has a sister herself, I wouldn't say that a sisterly relationship of the kind of one-sided devotion and compassion Ana Henrietta shows is very standard, to say the least. 

 

Anyway, sad as it was, I did like the ending and story. The Elder vampire was very cool and I don't actually regret going this route on my first run. I will definitely try the other option next time to see how exactly that will play out.

 

All in all, money for the expansion was well spent, although the story isn't quite as perfect as Heart of Stone's. I like vampires and loved how they all looked in B&W.

 

Also, I wished I could have fought Orianna in the orphanage, but I guess I have to content myself with the old trailer of the fight. 

[Wolven_Soul]

 

 

Anyway, sad as it was, I did like the ending and story. The Elder vampire was very cool and I don't actually regret going this route on my first run. I will definitely try the other option next time to see how exactly that will play out.[/spoiler]

 

 

 

Spoiler

I really liked the Unseen Elder as well, and the things he said about the gate made me wonder.  If perhaps the next Witcher game, if there ever is one, could have something to do with that gate and what the Elder says is going to happen in a few hundred years. 

Man though that dude has no patience for questions. 

[Dutchess]

I really liked the Unseen Elder as well, and the things he said about the gate made me wonder.  If perhaps the next Witcher game, if there ever is one, could have something to do with that gate and what the Elder says is going to happen in a few hundred years. 

 

Man though that dude has no patience for questions. 

 

Heh, I recalled the journal note you find in the cave warning the scholar mage to be to the point if the Elder was willing to accept the gift, so I did not dare to click on the optional dialogue questions.  I assume he gets sick of you if you try to prod him for more information?

I did a quick reload before first seeing him to drink a Black Blood potion, thinking I might have screwed up by not having one ready, but I guess the Elder is just too awesome to be effected by a petty Witcher potion.  

 

What Regis says when asked about the gate suggested it was unlikely to ever open again. He seemed to believe that the Elder stayed there to cling to the smallest glimpses of their home world that could pass through the closed gate. A fourth Witcher game seems unlikely to me but I would love to have a follow-up to the elves/nonhuman story. Their situation was a prominent part of the prior two games and got abandoned in the third almost entirely. They only get mentioned when you do Triss' quest to get the mages out of the city and/or get Radovid as a ruler, which both mean that nonhumans end up getting put on pyres by the Order. 

Passing all these ancient elven ruins just makes me sad. The Beauclair palace shows the true glory and beauty the elves lost. It's doubtful they can ever reclaim it but a follow-up to the shred of hope that was free Upper Aedirn would be nice. 

 

Anyway, those enchanted elf statues in Extreme Cosplay seriously kicked my ass. 

[nfi42]

Who here thinks the bad ending in the main game is the best written one?  I do, I'll go over them on by one.

 

Ciri Becomes a Witcher

 

The best feel good ending, but I really don't believe with all her powers and all she's seen,  she would just settle for "killing monsters".

 

Ciri Becomes Emperor

 

From what I read,  the favorite of most who also see Ciri not being a witcher. I did the first playthrough.  I cannot see any nation choosing Ciri to become emperor with her life experiences becoming an emperor straight away.  In any case,  the epilogue should have made it clearer that she was emperor in training.

 

Geralt kills the last Crone

 

The 5 decisions which give the bad ending might seem arbitrary, but in fact this I think is not true.  We can never know if what we say or do  has an impact another human unless they tell us, and even then we don't truly know.  From Ciri's perspective, I can see the sense in it, but from Geralt who probable see Ciri as an immature young adult, she still needs parenting. Certainly from all the facial expressions and snide remarks Ciri makes, I think this holds true.

 

I would see Geralt make the following 4 decisions:

• I would take the money from the emperor.  It's my job I'm a witcher.
• I would go into the meeting with the lodge sisters.  Big pressure for Ciri to go in by herself.
• I would not flip the book off the table in Pali Gap. Cir's tanti is just childish.
• I would not go to Craven's grave.  No pressure,  I would let her go on here own.

Lastly,  we get to see Geralt kill the last crone,  the other two endings should have had this as well. As to whether or not Geralt dies,  it's left to your imagination as it should, influenced by who Geralt romanced if any.

 

I have more feels for this ending then the other 2 but I've only done it once.  It's to sad. Bravo CDPR.

 

Edit : Removed incorrect dijkstra logic.

[Hazegurl]

You don't have to let Roche and Ves die for Ciri to become Empress. 

 

I've never done it but I did see a streamer still get the Empress ending even though they protected Roche, Ves, and Thaler.

 

I do like the Ciri dies ending the most though and I do think you make a good case for Geralt making the choices he does without coming across as a butthole. That was my only issue with this ending...and Geralt for some odd reason ends up alone.

 

What I like about Ciri dies ending is that it sort of tempers of Mary Sue aspects of her character, and the scene at the end was beautiful and heartbreaking.

[nfi42]

You don't have to let Roche and Ves die for Ciri to become Empress. 

 

I've never done it but I did see a streamer still get the Empress ending even though they protected Roche, Ves, and Thaler.

 

I do like the Ciri dies ending the most though and I do think you make a good case for Geralt making the choices he does without coming across as a butthole. That was my only issue with this ending...and Geralt for some odd reason ends up alone.

 

What I like about Ciri dies ending is that it sort of tempers of Mary Sue aspects of her character, and the scene at the end was beautiful and heartbreaking.

 

 

Really?  if you ever find it,  do post.

 

I always like to think that when the credits roll,  Geralt picks up his sword and "Kills  Monsters" and he still gets his girl.

 

I would prefer it if  they didn't say that Ciri died.

[Dutchess]

I wouldn't say that accepting Emhyr's hefty reward for finding and bringing Ciri to him is justified by Geralt being a witcher. As a witcher he takes contracts on lifting curses and dealing with monster problems. He has a personal relationship with Ciri and finding her is not just business and hardly similar to the jobs he is expected to take as a mutant monster killer. I've seen the scene of accepting the reward and having the coins be counted out for you in front of Ciri looks incredibly awkward and embarrassing. It definitely seems sketchy to accept it.

[nfi42]

I wouldn't say that accepting Emhyr's hefty reward for finding and bringing Ciri to him is justified by Geralt being a witcher. As a witcher he takes contracts on lifting curses and dealing with monster problems. He has a personal relationship with Ciri and finding her is not just business and hardly similar to the jobs he is expected to take as a mutant monster killer. I've seen the scene of accepting the reward and having the coins be counted out for you in front of Ciri looks incredibly awkward and embarrassing. It definitely seems sketchy to accept it.

 

Definitely from Ciri's perspective,  but Geralt is not looking at her.  Geralt does many a quest  that does not involve monsters.  Even find my brother, and find the Miner's start off as having nothing to do with monsters.  there is also find my frypan.  Lots. Any way, I can see your point of view.  If there had been an option to reject the money when presenting Uma to the Emperor,  it would be easier for me to not reject it later.

[KBomb]

I had a playthrough where Ciri became Empress and I would never kill Roche or Vess. So, yeah, you don't have to do that. The main thing is to coddle her a bit with decisions and take her to see her father straight away. I know there is some other conditions too, but the elude me. These are just the ones I remember off my head.

Edit: I watched the ending where Ciri dies and don't think my heart could stand it if that ending happened in my story. Heartwrenching is what that ending is.

[nfi42]

I had a playthrough where Ciri became Empress and I would never kill Roche or Vess. So, yeah, you don't have to do that. The main thing is to coddle her a bit with decisions and take her to see her father straight away. I know there is some other conditions too, but the elude me. These are just the ones I remember off my head.

Edit: I watched the ending where Ciri dies and don't think my heart could stand it if that ending happened in my story. Heartwrenching is what that ending is.

 

I got it round the wrong way. Killing Dijkstra or not doing Reason of State gives Emperor ending. will edit my post above accordingly.

[Wolven_Soul]

Heh, I recalled the journal note you find in the cave warning the scholar mage to be to the point if the Elder was willing to accept the gift, so I did not dare to click on the optional dialogue questions.  I assume he gets sick of you if you try to prod him for more information?

I did a quick reload before first seeing him to drink a Black Blood potion, thinking I might have screwed up by not having one ready, but I guess the Elder is just too awesome to be effected by a petty Witcher potion.

 

What Regis says when asked about the gate suggested it was unlikely to ever open again. He seemed to believe that the Elder stayed there to cling to the smallest glimpses of their home world that could pass through the closed gate. A fourth Witcher game seems unlikely to me but I would love to have a follow-up to the elves/nonhuman story. Their situation was a prominent part of the prior two games and got abandoned in the third almost entirely. They only get mentioned when you do Triss' quest to get the mages out of the city and/or get Radovid as a ruler, which both mean that nonhumans end up getting put on pyres by the Order. 

Passing all these ancient elven ruins just makes me sad. The Beauclair palace shows the true glory and beauty the elves lost. It's doubtful they can ever reclaim it but a follow-up to the shred of hope that was free Upper Aedirn would be nice. 

 

Anyway, those enchanted elf statues in Extreme Cosplay seriously kicked my ass. 

 

Yeah he...he doesn't like it when you ask to many questions.  He warned me after the first one, but I just had to go and ask a second.

 

CDPR has said that it is possible that they will make another Witcher game, just that it would be a long time before they did, and that it would certainly not feature Geralt. 

 

The Elder himself said that the gate would possibly open after three or four hundred years.  I remember what Regis said but...well, the Elder is the Elder for a reason I would think.  He does kind of freak out a little if you mention the possibility of humans setting explosives off in his cave and collapsing it.  He said something about how the gate must remain secure.  True, that could be so that he can preserve that feeling he gets from being so close to it, but...one never knows.  I do think that a Witcher game centered around that gate could be really, really interesting. 

[panzerwzh]

I dunno about that.  I feel no sympathy for the people of Downwarren.  They are the ones who choose to worship three ancient evil hags who literally eat children.  And Tamara joins a group of people who burn innocent witches and dopplers at stakes, and later elves, dwarves and other races.  So yeah, not a whole lot of sympathy for her either. 

 

Still, it would have been cool if they had let us deal with the tree spirit later.

But even for people who are not worthy of sympathy, death is a not justifiable punishment either. Another great example is Olgierd in HoS who is a murdering warlord desperately made deal with demon to save his marriage but ruined everything. Hence the eternal torment of his soul by the demon is a suitable end?  Sympathy or hatred alone should be the justification for one's life or death.    

[Onecrazymonkey1]

But even for people who are not worthy of sympathy, death is a not justifiable punishment either. Another great example is Olgierd in HoS who is a murdering warlord desperately made deal with demon to save his marriage but ruined everything. Hence the eternal torment of his soul by the demon is a suitable end?  Sympathy or hatred alone should be the justification for one's life or death.    

 

 

See, this is why I usually don't like killing Jad Karadin either, you explained it beautifully for me. I just see the decision with the tree like this, at that very moment I know the children are going to be slaughtered, especially since I took a peek in the crones basement. I also believe that they're the most innocent lives at that point in time. I know there's children in the village that get killed but if I'm not meta gaming, Geralt doesn't really know for a fact the the spirit would go slaughter the entire village, which is what happened to me the first time on accident. It is a wonderful choice though right? it brings a lot of feels no matter what, because I do like the Baron by that point.

 

There are some decisions that I never change but that's one I always switch up because I'm honestly sad no matter what I pick.

[Onecrazymonkey1]

Who here thinks the bad ending in the main game is the best written one?  I do, I'll go over them on by one.

 

Ciri Becomes a Witcher

 

The best feel good ending, but I really don't believe with all her powers and all she's seen,  she would just settle for "killing monsters".

 

Ciri Becomes Emperor

 

From what I read,  the favorite of most who also see Ciri not being a witcher. I did the first playthrough.  I cannot see any nation choosing Ciri to become emperor with her life experiences becoming an emperor straight away.  In any case,  the epilogue should have made it clearer that she was emperor in training.

 

Geralt kills the last Crone

 

The 5 decisions which give the bad ending might seem arbitrary, but in fact this I think is not true.  We can never know if what we say or do  has an impact another human unless they tell us, and even then we don't truly know.  From Ciri's perspective, I can see the sense in it, but from Geralt who probable see Ciri as an immature young adult, she still needs parenting. Certainly from all the facial expressions and snide remarks Ciri makes, I think this holds true.

 

The Ciri becomes a Witcher ending is the only one for me, even though it doesn't carry the same weight as the others. The ending where Geralt goes to fight the last crone is beautiful but like Kbomb said, it's much too heartbreaking and while it does bring out the most emotion, it's almost an emotional overload and really hurts me. The empress ending I loathe the most and will never do it, I absolutely hate that one. I just don't feel like it's in character for her or Geralt, at least not from the books. I hate Emhyr so much, with the flame of a thousand suns he disgusts me in every way. Geralt is her only father and while I play as him I'll never let her go near Emhyr. If I hadn't read the books I would have felt differently but I can't separate them from the games now; However the scene does play out beautifully if one is able to separate his book character from his game character.

 

My favorites probably go....

1. Ciri's a Witcher

2. Ciri's dead

3. Ciri's an empress

 

So because I like the goody goody ending of the base game and the bittersweet ending of blood and wine, it all balances out for me