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#1726
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Not hurting anyone; am killing pixels. But swearing taints the language and social code of conduct, and such entertainment helps make it more commonplace.


If you hope for a life without profanity stinging your pure ears, you're bound to be disappointed. People swear, men on the battlefield facing death everyday and/or living hard lives tend to do it more. It's a way for human beings to vent their frustration.
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If you hope for a life without profanity stinging your pure ears, you're bound to be disappointed. People swear, men on the battlefield facing death everyday and/or living hard lives tend to do it more. It's a way for human beings to vent their frustration.


People do lots of things every day; many of them do not improve anything or anyone, and some of them are hurtful. Simply because many do it does not equate it to being correct or acceptable. As I mentioned before, those who do so in business or in the military to superiors open themselves to discipline and repercussions.

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If it were removed from games, I doubt many would miss it. At least, that is my hope....

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You might not be looking hard enough.

 

http://www.polygon.c...sed-not-ignored

 

This next one isn't about misogyny, but it's a perfect example of the writhing cesspool of SJW filth that Polygon is. In URL form because the imgur is huge.

 

http://i.imgur.com/C1xE3k5.jpg

 

 

Ugh, Mcintosh is the worst. I remember him lamenting Bin Laden's death, saying he thinks all life is precious then almost throwing a celebration when Cristopher Hitchens died. Which I though was odd, since they're both Marxists,

 

I love how these people keep telling everyone that "white male privilege" is so ingrained in us that most can't even see it. Hmm, you think most people don't see it because for the most part it doesn't exist, eh Josh? At least not to the extent that you and Anita and all of the other trust fund extremists think it does?

 

Not even going to get started on Kuchera, suffice to say that Polygon is a nest of Vipers. 


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People do lots of things every day; many of them do not improve anything or anyone, and some of them are hurtful. Simply because many do it does not equate it to being correct or acceptable. As I mentioned before, those who do so in business or in the military to superiors open themselves to discipline and repercussions.http://smallbusiness...cmp=sbcfeaturesIf it were removed from games, I doubt many would miss it. At least, that is my hope....


Out of curiousity, did you totally skip the "Well Sh!t" quest in dai because of the S word?
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In know its been done quite a bit,  but i can't help but stress how well done side companions are in this game.  Obviously its a different situation than with BioWare games as you are usually on your own.

 

But the amount of content for just one side character like Keira Metz is fantastic.  She incorporates into the main plot, a side story about her life in the wilds, and relates to the issues mages have in the Witcher universe, as well as having optional romance content, being a shopkeeper, and a questgiver, and she gives you gear.  While she is certainly not on par content wise with a BioWare companion, I can't help but feel that more effort could have been put into the returning side characters, or even new characters

 

I disagree, sadly. While the male characters are generally fleshed out, well rounded, and draw you in, so far all the female characters have boiled down to titillation, most of the time overty with breasts hanging out or introduced via full blown nudity. It's like a fifteen year old wrote all the female parts, and made a big note in caps 'MUST SEE BEWBS'.

         I don't mind nudity when done well and for a reason, but in W3 so far its just weirdly shoe horned in and is used in place of actual character. Bioware definately knows how to write good male AND female characters, in my opinion, W3 seems to only know how to do the former.



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I must be playing the game wrong then. I've been playing for almost 50 hours and i've yet to see more than one pair of boobs. I've also encountered plenty of strong, fleshed out female characters along the way. Triss, Yennefer, Priscilla, Ciri, Keira Metz, Tamara (the Baron's daughter) etc. I also know that there's more to come such as Cerys, Sile and Phillipa.


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I must be playing the game wrong then. I've been playing for almost 50 hours and i've yet to see more than one pair of boobs. I've also encountered plenty of strong fleshed out strong female characters along the way. Triss, Yennefer, Priscilla, Ciri, Keira Metz, Tamara (the Baron's daughter) etc. I also know that there's more to come such as Cerys, Sile and Phillipa.

 

You were introduced to Yennefer via staring at her naked body for a while. Kiera Metz has her top wide open, and you were introduced to her via her randomly having a bath, boobs out. Ciri has decided that she's too cool for buttons, so her bra pokes through the gap in her top. Tamara is supposed to be a teenager, so it would be weird if she was sexed up. Those are the only ones I've met so far, and so far they have all been Flirty Mcboobpants to different degrees (Tamara notwitchstanding). This is all an opinion, you may think it works, I don't. It's just forced in for me, and takes away from any seriousness of their character.

           Now if I was to look at the male characters. The Bloody Baron who is a complex, arsehole of a character which the game makes you feel some way sorry for, no penis flopping required. The commander who told you to kill the griffin (can't remember his name), in the short time you saw him, he was shown as a firm, strong leader who tries the carrot, but is forced to use the stick. You are taken on a rollercoaster of knowing him, first believing him just, to then believing him wicked. The Emperor who clearly has beef with Geralt, but works with him because of what (I think so far) is fatherly love. The gulf between the complexity of male and female characters is striking, to me.



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Didn't see Yennefer's boobs, nor Ciri's. She has like one button undone, if that's overly sexualised then we're probably on different planets when it comes to our opinions on this. Priscilla isn't sexualised as you said, and never shows an interest in Geralt anyway. Keira is the only person to show her boobs so far in my game, but that doesn't detract from her being a strong, well written character. 


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Didn't see Yennefer's boobs, nor Ciri's. She has like one button undone, if that's overly sexualised then we're probably on different planets when it comes to our opinions on this. Priscilla isn't sexualised as you said, and never shows an interest in Geralt anyway. Keira is the only person to show her boobs so far in my game, but that doesn't detract from her being a strong, well written character. 

 

I never said anything about being overtly sexualised, I just said it didn't seem to fit, like it was forced in. A bit like how all these female warriors seem to wander and fight with heels on, It's just weird. I've not mentioned Priscilla, assuming you meant Tamara? And Kiera spent her whole time flirting with Geralt, as does Yennefer, their whole identity, in my opinion, is just titillation for the PC.



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If that's all you see in those characters then i'm inclined to think it has more to do with you than any failure on the game's part, i'll leave it there as it's clear we aren't ever likely to shift our positions or agree on this.


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If anything CDP is still too hesitant with the nudity. Nudity is a natural part of the world and should be displayed and not hidden. They did a good job with it in a non-sex related way (tortured people being naked and not fully clothed in armor like Leliana in Dragon Age, )

But the sex scenes remind me too much of Bioware. There was even a underwear sex scene with one of the prostitutes, which was really disappointing.



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If that's all you seein those characters then i'm inclined to think it has more to do with you than any failure on the game's part, i'll leave it there as it's clear we aren't ever likely to shift our positions or agree on this.

 

If that is all I see in those characters, the game as failed to show me who they are otherwise. I didn't go into the game wanting to be dissapointed by the female characters... I really don't mind nudity, it just needs to feel natural.



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love the female characters, as a gay guy i'd go jumping through portals with Keira any day, just loved her, if a boob pops out who cares, now let's go hide Geralt's pants


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Keira Metz design indeed isn't perfect . She is wearing way too much clothes. According to the books and Witcher 2 she is supposed to be a nymphomaniac.

 

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It looks like what she is wearing is relatively loose-fitting clothing that she can easily divest herself off; notice the lack of buttons and strings on her shirt as an example. Nymphomania does not mean a person has a sudden higher tolerance for the cold, as far as I know, than others nor would it mean she would have a dislike of clothing. In my opinion, that would just be silly. 



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It looks like what she is wearing is relatively loose-fitting clothing that she can easily divest herself off; notice the lack of buttons and strings on her shirt as an example. Nymphomania does not mean a person has a sudden higher tolerance for the cold, as far as I know, than others nor would it mean she would have a dislike of clothing. In my opinion, that would just be silly. 

That's not Keira, it's a screenshot of Cynthia from TW2 I believe.



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It looks like what she is wearing is relatively loose-fitting clothing that she can easily divest herself off; notice the lack of buttons and strings on her shirt as an example. Nymphomania does not mean a person has a sudden higher tolerance for the cold, as far as I know, than others nor would it mean she would have a dislike of clothing. In my opinion, that would just be silly. 

 

She is wearing what is essentialy a night gown or sleep-wear, these are not her actual clothes. And as Snake said, that's not Keira.



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It's Cynthia on the pic and not Keira. I posted it because of the subtitle.



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That's not Keira, it's a screenshot of Cynthia from TW2 I believe.

 

Ah, yes, I noticed the subtitles mentioning names afterwards so I decided to see if I could find an actual screenshot of Keira Metz and I did; I consider her clothing fine as it is as it allows practicality while still providing plenty of accessibility by being a dress and having a wide area of skin exposure by her bossom. You do not need to be fully nude to have sexual congress and I see no reason why her clothes would be a hindrance to her hypersexuality..

 

My points above still applies in regards to cold and  that nymphomania does not mean additionally having a dislike towards clothing. In fact, because the screenshot I found had her wearing a dress of colors and beads, I'm inclined to believe she has a liking for it and a bit towards fashion with how her outfit is put together.    
 



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Some people hates The Witcher 3, because many of them thinks it's only about nudity and sex, but usually they even haven't played this game. It's not like that. It's just unawareness. Sex and nudity isn't that frequent as I thought before playing TW3. 

What's more- I'm asexual and sex in TW3 never really bothers me. Maybe it's because I've read the books and I know that TW3 follows the same route. Or maybe the relationships in the game are just well-written.

It's not like they're trying to appeal to the male heterosexual audience or something. Everything feels natural.



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Out of curiousity, did you totally skip the "Well Sh!t" quest in dai because of the S word?


Uncertain of quest title, but was taken back when the Inq had this in the dialogue as a response, esp as it spoiled the current mood of the scene. It seemed out of place.

But if you mean when Varric or Sera uses it, I much prefer the euphemisms of DAO than those used in the sequels.

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Some people hates The Witcher 3, because many of them thinks it's only about nudity and sex, but usually they even haven't played this game. It's not like that. It's just unawareness. Sex and nudity isn't that frequent as I thought before playing TW3. 

What's more- I'm asexual and sex in TW3 never really bothers me. Maybe it's because I've read the books and I know that TW3 follows the same route. Or maybe the relationships in the game are just well-written.

It's not like they're trying to appeal to the male heterosexual audience or something. Everything feels natural.

From what I can tell by this thread, the people that dislike the Witcher are either drinking from the Sarkeesian fountain of wisdom, or belong to a secret society determined to bring back the values imposed by the great and glorious Oliver Cromwell. 


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Using your sword is basically required in the beginning of the game, since you'll be fighting groups of enemies that constantly flank you and attack in a relentless manner. Signs are also not very powerful until mid to late game and that's only if you specifically focused on putting points into them.

So I was right the first time. There's no way to avoid the action combat.

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From what I can tell by this thread, the people that dislike the Witcher are either drinking from the Sarkeesian fountain of wisdom, or belong to a secret society determined to bring back the values imposed by the great and glorious Oliver Cromwell. 

:huh:

 

I didn't enjoy my Witcher experience, but you're not speaking for me here as one of the people in this thread.  I don't care for A.S,  nor the teachings of a political/military leader from the 1600s.  Please don't generalize like that.   <_<


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Some people hates The Witcher 3, because many of them thinks it's only about nudity and sex, but usually they even haven't played this game. It's not like that. It's just unawareness. Sex and nudity isn't that frequent as I thought before playing TW3. 
What's more- I'm asexual and sex in TW3 never really bothers me. Maybe it's because I've read the books and I know that TW3 follows the same route. Or maybe the relationships in the game are just well-written.
It's not like they're trying to appeal to the male heterosexual audience or something. Everything feels natural.


Precisely another factor as to why I choose to pass on TW3. When nudity and sex become frequent enough to become a natural setting for a game, it lessens the allure of it. Same for the use of swearing; frequency lessens the impact of it's intended purpose.