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#176
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You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.  :devil:


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You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.  :devil:

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Only think I afraid CDPred will become like Valve with steam. Why make games if you can sell them. And hope CDPred never become like Bioware.


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You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.  :devil:

 

The Cycle must continue? :P


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#179
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You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.  :devil:

 

I want them to prosper and to start making other games besides The Witcher series, which I don't care at all.



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Let The Witcher be The Witcher and let Dragon Age be Dragon Age.

 

Bioware's at its weakest when it's trying to mimic some other game.

 

I think a lot of the issues with DAI are things they could learn from their own games much less an outside source, it's why it reminds me ME1 in that it's ambitious but structurally unpolished (only ME1 at least had a great ending). If there are things Bioware could learn from CDPR it would mostly be:

 

1) Spend more time on animation; moving over to frostbite obviously hasn't fixed a lot of the issues Bioware has with basic animation, everybody is still sort of a statue and the main character in DAI always has a hunched look, simple things like holding objects or posture shouldn't be an issue in 2015.

2) Plan ahead on consequences so you can manage the scale best for development; this means if too many characters can die from a mission and because of that you compromise the effects of their loss then that's bad, same goes for if you plan the consequence for an action as too big to show. Big decisions need big consideration, small decisions are okay too.

 

Stuff like "show don't tell" is something they've excelled at in previous games, same goes for story setup. Other things like "emergence in an open world" are probably best left to learning from other developers than CDPR.


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You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.  :devil:

 

Are you going to take your ball and go home too?  :P



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Are you going to take your ball and go home too?  :P

 

Nah, I'll wait for a savings week next time I buy DA AND Witcher 4 if 3 is a massive let down.



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You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.  :devil:

 

Seeing as how Witcher 3 got over a MILLION pre-orders, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon XD



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You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.  :devil:

CDPR is already owned by a company that trades publicly, and owns gog.com, so I don't think this likely to happen.

 

Plus, this isn't exactly feedback for Bioware, is it?



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The Cycle must continue? :P

The Elder One demands it!



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The Elder One demands it!

*poorly made reaper sounds*


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Bioware needs to take one, fundamental,  lesson away from CDPR: hold off release of a title until all the kinks have been worked out on all platforms. It goes without saying, we haven't seen performance of W3 on the PC which may infact be wrought with similar difficulties as the DAI release, regardless of the extra time invested on stability . Apart from that, Bioware needs only to take lessons from its past successes, and to build upon those lerned lesssons for future projects. Just stick to the things that made games like DAO and ME1 pretty great: story development and character development. Stay true and dedicated to those two core values and the rest will follow suit. Throw in a dash of grit and a hearty helping of blood and eroticism - it would help if future characters were in fact aesthetically pleasing to look at as they were in DAO - and you'll be golden Bioware, and,  once again in the good graces of your loyal patrons.



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Feedback: Be more like Dragon Age, because Dragon Age is great.

 

Was.



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CDPR is already owned by a company that trades publicly, and owns gog.com, so I don't think this likely to happen.

 

Plus, this isn't exactly feedback for Bioware, is it?

Neither is most of this thread. :bandit:



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Was.

 

Subjective


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Bioware needs to take one, fundamental,  lesson away from CDPR: hold off release of a title until all the kinks have been worked out on all platforms. It goes without saying, we haven't seen performance of W3 on the PC which may infact be wrought with similar difficulties as the DAI release, regardless of the extra time invested on stability . Apart from that, Bioware needs only to take lessons from its past successes, and to build upon those lerned lesssons for future projects. Just stick to the things that made games like DAO and ME1 pretty great: story development and character development. Stay true and dedicated to those two core values and the rest will follow suit. Throw in a dash of grit and a hearty helping of blood and eroticism - it would help if future characters were in fact aesthetically pleasing to look at as they were in DAO - and you'll be golden Bioware, and,  once again in the good graces of your loyal patrons.

 

That ultimately isn't up to Bioware, they can only delay a game so many times 



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Subjective

 

They did try to be more like Skyrim this time, so it isn't really a subjective thing.



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You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.  :devil:

 

It'll get GOTY 2015 first :)


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#194
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They did try to be more like Skyrim this time, so it isn't really a subjective thing.

Which I remember a fair amount of people telling them to do on the old BSN.



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They did try to be more like Skyrim this time, so it isn't really a subjective thing.

 

How exactly?

They didn't try to copy Skyrim's open world, Inquisition is multi-region and much more linear.

They didn't copy it's tone, setting, or lore. They didn't copy it's combat or mechanics.

The sole thing I can find in Inquisition that is "Skyrim-like" is that you can now craft weapons, and even that's a stretch. 

 

If you don't care for the game that's fine, but it is indeed very much subjective.



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How exactly?

They didn't try to copy Skyrim's open world, Inquisition is multi-region and much more linear.

They didn't copy it's tone, setting, or lore. They didn't copy it's combat or mechanics.

The sole thing I can find in Inquisition that is "Skyrim-like" is that you can now craft weapons, and even that's a stretch. 

 

If you don't care for the game that's fine, but it is indeed very much subjective.

 

I think it is the "open-world"ness of the game that's Skyrim like, which isn't a bad thing to me because I like that they made regions more open and less linear than Origins. Though I do agree they tone down the size of some of maps in the future (hinterlands :P)

 

They also can't really say they "sacrificed story for the open areas" since Bioware did intend for the story to be longer 


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I think it is the "open-world"ness of the game that's Skyrim like, which isn't a bad thing to me because I like that they made regions more open and less linear than Origins. Though I do agree they tone down the size of some of maps in the future (hinterlands :P)

 

They also can't really say they "sacrificed story for the open areas" since Bioware did intend for the story to be longer 

 

Well, that's just it. Just because a game becomes more open doesn't mean they're trying to be Skyrim lol.


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#198
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Well, that's just it. Just because a game becomes more open doesn't mean they're trying to be Skyrim lol.

 

That just BSN being BSN really 


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Subjective

It's pretty objective. DAI was dumbed down so far it feels like ti was intended for a six year old... except for the nudity. Aside from sex, every other mature theme and heavy emotion or difficult decision was omitted for the sake of big environments that are so empty they feel static.

Pretty, but static.



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It's pretty objective. DAI was dumbed down so far it feels like ti was intended for a six year old... except for the nudity. Aside from sex, every other mature theme and heavy emotion or difficult decision was omitted for the sake of big environments that are so empty they feel static.

Pretty, but static.

:rolleyes:


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