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[SnakeCode]

Did anyone claim that feminism was all about helping males?

My brand of feminism certainly is partly about helping males, because I'm doing it and I'm male. And since I'm selfish (because I'm a person), I do what I do because I think it benefits me to do so.

I would enjoy a world without gender roles, so I openly reject them. Feminism is about gender equality, and there won't be equality as long as one group is expected to behave differently from the other.

 

Right, and White-ism is about racial equality.

[Aren]

The horse mechanics really feel a lot like (and I assume are heavily influenced by) those in Red Dead Redemption. I don't know if you ever played it but it feels very similar. These two games are the only two games I can think of that makes riding a mount a satisfactory experience.

Horses have always problems in every game,in Witcher 3 they act like a submarine sometimes.

[RINNZ]

I've been really tempted to pick that up. My husband and I both love games, but we usually don't play many of the same ones. I know he would love RDR, and while it's not my usual genre, the story and gameplay look excellent. He just finished Wolfenstein: The Old Blood*, and he was "meh" on the Thief demo. He's about due for another good game, so thanks for the recommendation.

@Miyo and Ash, thanks for your comments. It sounds like fun, although I could leave the fear meter out of it. That's just my nitpick though.

_{*Anyone that says that FPS' are all the same and are for brainless players obviously never played the new Wolfenstein games. They have some of the best VA work, animation and story I've seen outside of the more usual-story driven RPGs. Seriously, if you like FPS games, go play The Old Blood and The New Order. Go play it now.}

You played WOLFENSTIEN too??!!

Alfight if you could just sign here, and there. When your done you'll be ky adopted older sister by law.

[MiyoKit]

Right, and White-ism is about racial equality.

 

Feminism is most definately about gender equality, with the want for women to be equal to men. This also extends to areas where men are at a disadvantage to women (child custody for example). It is entirely about equality, just like other movements involving victimised groups when they strive for it. Or are you one of those people who assume LGBT rights are out to hurt straight people & minority racial movements are out to hurt white people?

[AresKeith]

Oh and you are quite right about this.
Looking at the Storm Coast, it is indeed very pretty,
but I can see with the hassle of adopting Frostbite 3, that things like dynamic time and more weather suffered.
I hope to see them in DA4.
Population variety is also a good point.

It was also last-gen too

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It was also last-gen too

This really sums up the reason for pretty much every problem DAI has. 

[MoonDrummer]

Feminism is most definately about gender equality, with the want for women to be equal to men. This also extends to areas where men are at a disadvantage to women 

[Sylvius the Mad]

The combat mechanics from DA:I has to go. Really. It is so dumbed down people have beaten the game on Nightmare by button mashing.

But replacing it with an action combat system like TW3's ia not the answer.

DAI's combat has two fundamental problems, both of which you've touched on. First, it's too easy. For players who do want a challenge, there is no setting that offers one.

Second, the action controls offer the potential for much more effective use of some abilities than the AI can manage. Parry, for example. A player triggering Parry manually can theoretically avoid all melee damage, but the AI doesn't do nearly as well. This encourages button mashing.

[SnakeCode]

Feminism is most definately about gender equality, with the want for women to be equal to men. This also extends to areas where men are at a disadvantage to women (child custody for example). It is entirely about equality, just like other movements involving victimised groups when they strive for it. Or are you one of those people who assume LGBT rights are out to hurt straight people & minority racial movements are out to hurt white people?

 

Except there's already a word for that. Egalitarianism. Who in their right mind would gender a term that's supposed to be about gender equality? 

 

"Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish and achieve political, economic, cultural, personal and social rights for women."

 

This isn't an attack on feminism, I don't even think it's a bad thing, but let's not call it something it isn't. It's an ideology/group of movements for women's rights, not human rights. I'm not an advocate of men's rights movements either, but at least they have the self-awareness to admit exactly what they are. I'd also appreciate you leaving out the projection and the insinuation that i'm a bigot thanks. I haven't been rude to you, so there's no need for it.

 

I'm also going to drop this line of conversation, it's off topic and i'd really rather this thread wasn't locked. 

[FKA_Servo]

Feminism is most definately about gender equality, with the want for women to be equal to men. This also extends to areas where men are at a disadvantage to women (child custody for example). It is entirely about equality, just like other movements involving victimised groups when they strive for it. Or are you one of those people who assume LGBT rights are out to hurt straight people & minority racial movements are out to hurt white people?

 

This is a possibility, but it's equally likely that he just can't be bothered to learn anything about it. Lots of people seem to consider aggressive and deliberate ignorance regarding feminism to be a good look, unfortunately.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Did you?

When and how was this?

By me deciding it was true. That's how roleplaying works.

If the writers need to anticipate how you mught want your character to feel, then your character will be limited to that anticipated range of feelings.

I don't want to be restricted in that way, so I simply decide how my character feels (and what she wants and why), and that informs her in-game choices.

That's how.

[Zinho73]

Feminism is most definately about gender equality, with the want for women to be equal to men. This also extends to areas where men are at a disadvantage to women (child custody for example). It is entirely about equality, just like other movements involving victimised groups when they strive for it. Or are you one of those people who assume LGBT rights are out to hurt straight people & minority racial movements are out to hurt white people?

Actually, a lot of prominent feminists are all about equity (not equality) which is a different game altogether. They see most (if not all) men as rapists (or at least incapable to empathize with women) and the threat of the patriarchy is everywhere to them.

 

I am all for equality and there are some great feminists around, but I find difficult to identify with the movement as a whole because of this resurgence of the more radical thoughts. Lots of crazy stuff, and some very close to us gamers (without citing names to avoid hijacking the thread).

 

In any case, equality is not on the table for a lot of feminists - both historically and between some young women today. A quick search on the internet will show you some very strange lines of thought with many, many likes (from preemptive castration, to rape-look, to how gaming transforms all males into misogynists).

[Sylvius the Mad]

Except there's already a word for that. Egalitarianism. Who in their right mind would gender a term that's supposed to be about gender equality?

"Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish and achieve political, economic, cultural, personal and social rights for women."

This isn't an attack on feminism, I don't even think it's a bad thing, but let's not call it things it isn't. It's an ideology/group of movements for women's rights, not human rights. I'm not an advocate of men's rights movements either, but at least they have the self-awareness to admit exactly what they are. I'd also appreciate you leaving out the projection and the insinuation that i'm a bigot thanks. I haven't been rude to you, so there's no need for it.

I'm also going to drop this line of conversation, it's off topic and i'd really rather this thread wasn't locked.

Egalitarianism is too broad. It's not limited to gender equality. It's usually applied to economic equality, something I strongly oppose.

[TheOgre]

This is a possibility, but it's equally likely that he just can't be bothered to learn anything about it. Lots of people seem to consider aggressive and deliberate ignorance regarding feminism to be a good look, unfortunately.

Right because he doesn't agree with some people, you default to your usual antic to label said person ignorant or too stupid to understand. Righto Tommy, keep up the mature behavior by the way. Shining example.

Also, blame the radicals for rallying under the banner of feminism and making hate speeches toward men for the massive confusion over what actually feminism is truly about if it is about gender equality.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Right, and White-ism is about racial equality.

Why would you equate those two terms?

[BabyPuncher]

By me deciding it was true. That's how roleplaying works.
If the writers need to anticipate how you mught want your character to feel, then your character will be limited to that anticipated range of feelings.
I don't want to be restricted in that way, so I simply decide how my character feels (and what she wants and why), and that informs her in-game choices.
That's how.

Being courageous, smart, determined and so forth is not dependent on how a person 'feels.' No amount of 'feeling' intelligent makes a wrong answer right or clumsy reasoning elegant.

[AresKeith]

Actually, a lot of prominent feminists are all about equity (not equality) which is a different game altogether. They see most (if not all) men as rapists (or at least incapable to empathize with women) and the threat of the patriarchy is everywhere to them.

 

Spoiler

Those aren't feminist, those are radicals who claims to be feminist

 

That's my only post on this

[Dreadstruck]

Wow this thread has everything. From Witcher 3 and DA:I to feminism, Bloodborne, wife-beaters and Jeremy Clarkson.

 

How about we bring this again back on track, eh? Feedback for DA:I perhaps?

 

I'd rather not see this topic locked.

[SnakeCode]

Egalitarianism is too broad. It's not limited to gender equality. It's usually applied to economic equality, something I strongly oppose.

 

Then call it gender egalitarianism.

 

If egalitarianism is too broad a term, then by the same token feminism is too narrow. It focuses on one gender.

[FKA_Servo]

Right because he doesn't agree with some people, you default to your usual antic to label said person ignorant or too stupid to understand. Righto Tommy, keep up the mature behavior by the way. Shining example.

Also, blame the radicals for rallying under the banner of feminism and making hate speeches toward men for the massive confusion over what actually feminism is truly about if it is about gender equality.

 

I didn't call anyone ignorant or stupid.

 

If someone thinks the sky is green and can't be bothered to go outside to verify whether that's true or not, then their ignorance is willful, and born out of laziness or obstinacy. In any event, that thought betrays a fundamental unfamiliarity with feminism.

 

Do you regard eco-terrorists as the sole spokespersons for conservationists and environmentalists? Do they hijack  the discourse about those topics? This is no different. There are radical factions present, just like any movement, but it should be obvious that they don't speak for everyone.

 

 

Then call it gender egalitarianism.

 

If egalitarianism is too broad a term, then by the same token feminism is too narrow. It focuses on one gender.

 

Context exists though. Words can have more than one meaning. "Gender egalitarianism" is the very aim of mainstream feminism.

Modifié par TommyServo, 27 mai 2015 - 02:45 .

[SnakeCode]

Spoiler

Those aren't feminist, those are radicals who claims to be feminist

 

That's my only post on this

 

Ah, the classic No True Scotsman response. Wasn't expecting that at all.

[MiyoKit]

Except there's already a word for that. Egalitarianism. Who in their right mind would gender a term that's supposed to be about gender equality? 

 

"Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish and achieve political, economic, cultural, personal and social rights for women."

 

This isn't an attack on feminism, I don't even think it's a bad thing, but let's not call it something it isn't. It's an ideology/group of movements for women's rights, not human rights. I'm not an advocate of men's rights movements either, but at least they have the self-awareness to admit exactly what they are. I'd also appreciate you leaving out the projection and the insinuation that i'm a bigot thanks. I haven't been rude to you, so there's no need for it.

 

I'm also going to drop this line of conversation, it's off topic and i'd really rather this thread wasn't locked. 

 

Feminism came as a term during a time where women were severely oppressed, so it originated as a fight for women to achieve equality to men, socially, legally and economically. Egalitarianism was too broad for that, just as its too broad for LGBT / minority racial rights. Feminism as a term has lasted and is unchanged in its philosophy, that women should be equal to men, thus gender equality. Claiming that it isn't for equal rights is like claiming LGBT campaigners aren't looking for equal rights, which by your reaction you think would be bigotted. So if you think that about LGBT campaigners, why think something different to feminism when the goal is the same for the effected groups?

 

@ Zinho73 - Extreamists exist everywhere, and are generally the most vocal. Taking the few examples of 'radicals' and using that to dictate a movement that has existed for hundreds of years, with millions of people sharing the ideology, is a little flawed. I could cite some men who think all feminists are man-hating crazies, doesn't mean all men think that way or even most men. Personally, I don't know anyone in my social circle who thinks like the people you spoke of, yet they all subscribe to the idea of gender equality & feminism.

[AresKeith]

Ah, the classic No True Scotsman response. Wasn't expecting that at all.

 

Don't do that, because I don't consider people like that to be feminists 

[MoonDrummer]

Wow this thread has everything. From Witcher 3 and DA:I to feminism, Bloodborne, wife-beaters and Jeremy Clarkson.

 

How about we bring this again back on track, eh? Feedback for DA:I perhaps?

 

I'd rather not see this topic locked.

Jeremy Clarkson should never have been sacked. Now the only show to bother watching on the BBC is Match of the Day.

 

Death to the TV licence!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Jeremy Clarkson should never have been sacked. Now the only show to bother watching on the BBC is Match of the Day.

 

Death to the TV licence!

Jeremy should never have punched one of Top Gear's producers in the face to the point he needed stitches.