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[b10d1v]

Perhaps because they are not interested in cosmetic DLC? They've never done it for previous games

DLC mods are a complicated project with a lot of overhead, it makes no sense to only use them for cosmetics unless it is part of a bigger effort involving quests, geography, behaviors and dialog - a sub game.  Many of the crafting errors appear fixed with emporium DLC - a good example.  

As for free, the character creator had a lot of issues and the emporium shows that much of its functionality is now stable and the crafting was incomplete - not a good idea to charge folks twice for the same job. 

[KBomb]

You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens.

Jesus, are you twelve? Don't be so insecure. I do not understand the mentality of "Everybody loves this, so I must hate it!"

I hope CDPR continue to shine and I hope that Bioware can learn from their mistakes and excel. My wish is that both companies succeed and continue to make great games for everyone to enjoy.

Both companies are amazing and one doesn't have to fail for the other one to succeed.

[bondari reloads.]

How many threads in which the OP hoped for the financial ruin of BW so that all the devs that did them wrong would end up on the street were on these boards in the last couple of months? It always puzzles me how entertainment of all things makes people so angry that they hold grudges for years.

[Madmoe77]

How many threads in which the OP hoped for the financial ruin of BW so that all the devs that did them wrong would end up on the street were on these boards in the last couple of months? It always puzzles me how entertainment of all things makes people so angry that they hold grudges for years.

 

The Colosseum is a very real place to visit and you question the audacity of what some call or demand to be entertained by?

 

People today have an immediate source for reactionary venting. It's called the internet. On the internet free speech reigns supreme. What doesn't reign supreme is how much money is worth and where that money comes from. There is no one way for people to earn their money or how they achieve their entertainment. Some take that way more serious than others. Some have misplaced values and others simply do not know how to voice their arguments clearly. I'm too old to try and address everyone with kid gloves or fill posts with emoties and silly stuff to make everyone feel good. Hell; David Gaider often tells fans to "blow it out their rears" for disagreements in terms. With the representation playing a similar game; by a developer founded by psychologists, I think the effect is intended at times.

 

The Witcher 3 is competition and to have people argue away competition simply by how a poster 'represents' that opposition is silly. It makes for a fun read. Says more about reactionary fan-bases on either side than the effect it actually has on business. People react; how caustic that effect is really lands on how you react back. The grudge you speak of only exists in the minds of those reacting to supposed demands while drawing a supportive line in the sand. Again it makes for a fun read.        

[TheOgre]

Jesus, are you twelve? Don't be so insecure. I do not understand the mentality of "Everybody loves this, so I must hate it!

To this day I refuse to read or watch game of Thrones because everyone kept telling me I would love it. I've had a high expectation low deliver syndrome for what others hype me up for. It's pretty sad I know.

[KBomb]

To this day I refuse to read or watch game of Thrones because everyone kept telling me I would love it. I've had a high expectation low deliver syndrome for what others hype me up for. It's pretty sad I know.

I have a friend who is the same way. He is a bit of a music snob and the more popular a group or singer becomes, the more he hates them. I had another friend who stated every chance she got that she hated Jennifer Lawrence and if you asked her why, she said, "God, just everyone thinks she is so wonderful!"

I know it's a common thing, but I can't wrap my brain around it. Maybe because I value my own opinion more than I do anyone else's and I don't like others making decisions for me. I am glad though, otherwise I would have missed out on some really good games, music, books and movies through the years.

[bondari reloads.]

The Colosseum is a very real place to visit and you question the audacity of what some call or demand to be entertained by?

People today have an immediate source for reactionary venting. It's called the internet. On the internet free speech reigns supreme. What doesn't reign supreme is how much money is worth and where that money comes from. There is no one way for people to earn their money or how they achieve their entertainment. Some take that way more serious than others. Some have misplaced values and others simply do not know how to voice their arguments clearly.

I think we can hardly expect two dev teams to battle each other in an arena under the gaze of millions pc gamers, armed only with an input device of their choosing... can we? But yeah, tone in online discussions is more important than ever, but I don't see how mouthing off about W3 or DOS helps me enjoy DAI more.
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[CronoDragoon]

If you post in bait threads just so you can "point out wrongness" and to mock people, you're no better than the "troll" you believe made the tread. It makes you look like a hypocrite, as well as immature. Any credibility you may have carried, you just lost.

Defend this assertion, as my credibility is not dependent on your say so. Mocking people is not in itself immature, and pointing out bad arguments is one of the central tenets of discussion.

For example, I mock sexists and racists. If you believe that makes me as bad as them or immature, then I think you have a very warped perspective on the matter. Similarly, if someone makes an illogical claim, you have an issue with me pointing it out? That seems fairly illogical itself, unless you think debate has no place on a message board.

But I don't think you believe either of those things.

Link or it didn't happen. Just a quick search will tell you every thread that mentions the Witcher gets people fired up, whether it has "actual examples" or not. Btw, I provided examples and still people were going on about "I don't want DAI to be a clone!" -- which no one is asking for.

I went through the whole thread again to make sure, and not once were you attacked for what you posted, nor did anyone get riled up at the examples you provided. You actually got some likes for your trouble.

Obviously some people will not read the OP, and some people will not read the OP because they think the OP is just pooping on Inquisition to prop up a game they like. It would be naive of me to say that no one gets angry when people compare DA: I to the Witcher, since I already acknowledged it earlier in the thread.

[wolfhowwl]

And btw the butthurt of some DA fanboys is quite funny

I mean you can like DA better but damm some people here get very defensive 

 

You forgot to change your username from when you were vehemently defending this game on these very boards for months after release, you know, like a fanboy. Remember your fights against dlux?

 

People can change their minds but massively 180ing on the game and then calling other people fanboys makes you look like a blowhard.

[KBomb]

Defend this assertion, as my credibility is not dependent on your say so. Mocking people is not in itself immature, and pointing out bad arguments is one of the central tenets of discussion.

For example, I mock sexists and racists. If you believe that makes me as bad as them or immature, then I think you have a very warped perspective on the matter. Similarly, if someone makes an illogical claim, you have an issue with me pointing it out? That seems fairly illogical itself, unless you think debate has no place on a message board.

But I don't think you believe either of those things.

I obviously meant your creditability with me and that does mean "on my say so". As for the answer-- yes, I find mocking someone with an opinion different from your own, no matter how deplorable, immature. There are ways to draw someone into a discussion without mockery. I can't fathom or tolerate racism, but if I wanted to debate or discuss a person's racist views legitimately, mocking would accomplish nothing. If I found them so repugnant that I couldn't carry a civilized conversation with them, I wouldn't waste my time on them.

Similarly, if someone is making a claim I find illogical, I would ask them why they felt that way and try to discuss it with them. If they are making an illogical claim simply to troll or bait, I would ignore them all together. Someone who is a troll cares nothing about debate or discussion and conversing with them would get no where.

Of course, you may act any way you wish. It isn't my place to police you and I am certainly not trying to. I just find it hard to take anyone seriously as soon as they start saying how "they gain satisfaction by mocking a thread". I equate it with those who post how they'd be happy if >insert fan wants< never happened so that they could revel in their tears. My opinion, naturally. I just find it immature and incendiary.

And to be fair, I think at some point everyone as mocked someone. Even myself, and when I did it, it was completely immature and I apologized right away. I am sure I do it without thinking sometimes too, that doesn't alter the fact that it lacks maturity.

[RenAdaar]

Nah man the next dragon age game should be like saints row 3 and 4. 

[CronoDragoon]

As for the answer-- yes, I find mocking someone with an opinion different from your own, no matter how deplorable, immature. There are ways to draw someone into a discussion without mockery. I can't fathom or tolerate racism, but if I wanted to debate or discuss a person's racist views legitimately, mocking would accomplish nothing. If I found them so repugnant that I couldn't carry a civilized conversation with them, I wouldn't waste my time on them.

But what if I have time to waste? ; ;
 

Similarly, if someone is making a claim I find illogical, I would ask them why they felt that way and try to discuss it with them.

If someone presents an argument with holes, you point out the holes. The situation you are describing about asking them why they felt that way sounds like someone who hasn't presented an argument at all. In which case I will say "you haven't presented an argument at all" in different words. Is that more direct than your approach? Yes. Is it wrong? No. I'm trained in the useless degree of philosophy where directness like that is the status quo. It's a natural response to someone trying to make a point (or not trying to).
 

Of course, you may act any way you wish. It isn't my place to police you and I am certainly not trying to. I just find it hard to take anyone seriously as soon as they start saying how "they gain satisfaction by mocking a thread". I equate it with those who post how they'd be happy if >insert fan wants< never happened so that they could revel in their tears. My opinion, naturally. I just find it immature and incendiary.

Well, that depends on what the fan wants. If the fan wants all the devs to get fired, then yeah I'd equate it too, since mockery is justified in both scenarios. Maturity and respectfulness are not equivalent, and saying that the latter is always required for you to be the former pretty much flies in the face of a quite a bit of 1. art and 2. comedy.

Of course, I am neither artistic nor funny so I guess the joke's on me.

[CronoDragoon]

You forgot to change your username from when you vehemently defending this game on these very boards for months after release, you know, like a fanboy. Remember your fights against dlux?
 
People can change their minds but massively 180ing on the game and then calling other people fanboys makes you look like a blowhard.

Wow. I had no idea this was the same guy. This is actually a bit scary.

no I love the game probably the best Bioware game to date
typical RPG tropes in the main storyline? have you even played DA:origins? ridiculous
 
ohh god another one of these "hardcore" RPG players so sick of them everything was better before we get it now get out
there are many who are enjoying this current direction

yes there is something wrong with you
the game is awesome a shame you can't enjoy it

[The Qun & the Damned]

My dear, your criticism meant to sound like "You guys are better than this, be better than this!" but really you sound like "Why can't you be like the other hot chick?" Your problem is you can never enjoy this game just as much as you think you might enjoy the other one because it will never live up to the expectation you wish it does. If you have to listen to a review to tell you just how good something is without giving it a shot then you deserve to be fucked in the ass with your indecisive ****-brain because you couldn't think for yourself. Sure, it's one thing if this game has that and that company has this but know this: they are not and never will be the same people and that's okay, because if they lose just one and still have many more, then who the hell cares? Think a hydra: lose one head and a few more takes its place.

[KBomb]

My dear, your criticism meant to sound like "You guys are better than this, be better than this!" but really you sound like "Why can't you be like the other hot chick?" Your problem is you can never enjoy this game just as much as you think you might enjoy the other one because it will never live up to the expectation you wish it does. If you have to listen to a review to tell you just how good something is without giving it a shot then you deserve to be fucked in the ass with your indecisive ****-brain because you couldn't think for yourself. Sure, it's one thing if this game has that and that company has this but know this: they are not and never will be the same people and that's okay, because if they lose just one and still have many more, then who the hell cares? Think a hydra: lose one head and a few more takes its place.

Who is this "my dear", exactly?

[The Qun & the Damned]

Who is this "my dear", exactly?

OP mostly. Don't know why, had Vivienne in mind.

[Saphiron123]

To me, it just showcases some of the missed opportunities of DAI. They look so similar in style.

http://ca.ign.com/vi...-ign-plays-live

Imagine this combat, with a party in the dragon age world, with tactics restored... I want to play that game do very badly.

[In Exile]

To me, it just showcases some of the missed opportunities of DAI. They look so similar in style.

http://ca.ign.com/vi...-ign-plays-live

Imagine this combat, with a party in the dragon age world, with tactics restored... I want to play that game do very badly.

 

You mean, imagine a game that's fundamentally different on a mechanical level in every way? TW3 looks awesome - turning it into a party-based game with AI tactics, we're pretty much creating a very different game. 

[kensaileo]

To me, it just showcases some of the missed opportunities of DAI. They look so similar in style.

http://ca.ign.com/vi...-ign-plays-live

Imagine this combat, with a party in the dragon age world, with tactics restored... I want to play that game do very badly.

Why is CD Projekt Red so creative?

[Shadow Fox]

Jesus, are you twelve? Don't be so insecure. I do not understand the mentality of "Everybody loves this, so I must hate it!"

I hope CDPR continue to shine and I hope that Bioware can learn from their mistakes and excel. My wish is that both companies succeed and continue to make great games for everyone to enjoy.

Both companies are amazing and one doesn't have to fail for the other one to succeed.

Except I don't care about the Witcher I just think it's highly amusing how fickle the greater gaming community is.

 

 

[SnakeCode]

You know I cant wait till CDPR either releases a sub par game or goes bankrupt and gets bought out.

 

So I can see fanboys cry about how they "betrayed our trust","Sold Out","Don't make proper rpgs anymore" etc while latching on to another fledgling developer and saying how much better they are then CDPR.

 

I will remember this thread and LMAO when that happens. 

 

I've never understood why some people have the desire to see games/devs fail. It makes people look extremely childish, spiteful and insecure. Even if you personally don't like the game, why hope that it doesn't succeed and that others won't get enjoyment out of it?

 

As I said earlier in the thread, great games inspire devs to improve their own work, the end result is that we end up having a wider selection of good games to play. I don't know about you, but I want to play good games in general. If they're somewhat like Bioware titles, then even better.

[PhroXenGold]

I've never understood why some people have the desire to see games/devs fail. It makes people look extremely childish, spiteful and insecure. Even if you personally don't like the game, why hope that it doesn't succeed and that others won't get enjoyment out of it?

 

As I said earlier in the thread, great games inspire devs to improve their own work, the end result is that we end up having a wider selection of good games to play. I don't know about you, but I want to play good games in general. If they're somewhat like Bioware titles, then even better.

 

While I defnintely want TW3 to be a great game (though, in all honest, I suspect I won't like it much - couldn't get on with the second Witcher; for all that the story and characters were interesting, the combat was completely unenjoyable and that was a game breaker for me), there is a little part of me that would like to to be bad just to spite the people who come onto forums like this and rave about how it's going to be amazing and Inquisition is crap and so on. I know it's wrong, but still...