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[mousestalker]

Lastly,

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[Rawgrim]

Glorious.... Simply glorious. Lord Maul dispatched this Jedi dog in the most truest form of Sith Combat, with a saber through the belly. Hahahahaha!

 

Unlimited Power!!!! 

 

Lost all that power when he cried and begged like a little girl in The Clone Wars.

[Dermain]

Lost all that power when he cried and begged like a little girl in The Clone Wars.

 

Which is canon!

[Rawgrim]

Which is canon!

 

Indeed. He is on Jar-Jar level now.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

[Melra]

Jawa on the streets, Sith in da sheets.

[The Love Runner]

I got 50 members for my Sith Council back in high school. Who from the BSN will join my illustrious club?

[Voxr]

Bane is arguably one of my favorite Sith. He was smart and ruthless, and in the end even in death the Rule of Two worked. The Jedi were eventually destroyed (if eventually did return) But still.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Bane is arguably one of my favorite Sith. He was smart and ruthless, and in the end even in death the Rule of Two worked. The Jedi were eventually destroyed (if eventually did return) But still.

Bane?

[Althix]

[Voxr]

Bane?

"Where's Gotham? Is it alright!?"

 

"Ah Mister Wayne......It seems in your anger you've killed her, now you may die."

 

"Nooooooooooooooooo"

[Cyonan]

Bane is arguably one of my favorite Sith. He was smart and ruthless, and in the end even in death the Rule of Two worked. The Jedi were eventually destroyed (if eventually did return) But still.

 

I'd argue that the rule of two is the only real way for the Sith to work, because otherwise they become self destructive to the point of stupidity due to how many of them are controlled by their lust for more power and influence.

 

Although it seems to me that you'd be better off without an apprentice. They're the leading cause of Sith Lord death in the galaxy.

[Voxr]

I'd argue that the rule of two is the only real way for the Sith to work, because otherwise they become self destructive to the point of stupidity due to how many of them are controlled by their lust for more power and influence.

 

Although it seems to me that you'd be better off without an apprentice. They're the leading cause of Sith Lord death in the galaxy.

That's why Bane was such a great Sith IMO. He saw that. The Sith during his time was a brotherhood, and the title of Darth was banned so everyone was "equal". Bane realized how stupid it was and it went totally against Sith doctrine. So he killed all his fellow Sith and a bunch of Jedi using a force bomb thingy and started the Rule of Two.

 

"Know this: Your apprentice will kill you. If this frightens you, then the Sith Order has already suffered a fatal infection. Your existence in the Order is not needed. Your battle has already been lost."

 

The apprentice must kill the master in order to one: Prove themselves as a worthy successor and ensuring each Sith is more powerful than the last. And two: Stifles out any weakness of the master and ensures that the Rule of Two, and it's purpose, are continued.

[ObserverStatus]

That's why Bane was such a great Sith IMO. He saw that. The Sith during his time was a brotherhood, and the title of Darth was banned so everyone was "equal". Bane realized how stupid it was and it went totally against Sith doctrine. So he killed all his fellow Sith and a bunch of Jedi using a force bomb thingy and started the Rule of Two.
 
"Know this: Your apprentice will kill you. If this frightens you, then the Sith Order has already suffered a fatal infection. Your existence in the Order is not needed. Your battle has already been lost."
 
The apprentice must kill the master in order to one: Prove themselves as a worthy successor and ensuring each Sith is more powerful than the last. And two: Stifles out any weakness of the master and ensures that the Rule of Two, and it's purpose, are continued.

So, to be a Sith, you have to be willing to die for the sake of your apprentice? Why? What does the master get out of this if they're dead? I thought the point of being Sith was to use the force to get what you want? Just sounds like evil for the sake of evil tbh.

[Cyonan]

So, to be a Sith, you have to be willing to die for the sake of your apprentice? Why? What does the master get out of this if they're dead? I thought the point of being Sith was to use the force to get what you want? Just sounds like evil for the sake of evil tbh.

 

If nothing else I guess it does provide good incentive to keep gaining power and getting stronger.

[DeathScepter]

Cyonan is right. Two keys of the Sith Doctrine are Strength and Cunning. Strength to overcome all things and Cunning to become stronger than you are and able to correctly apply that said Strength. A Foolish Sith no matter how strong, is a dead one. A Weak Sith no matter how cunning, is still dead.

[Voxr]

So, to be a Sith, you have to be willing to die for the sake of your apprentice? Why? What does the master get out of this if they're dead? I thought the point of being Sith was to use the force to get what you want? Just sounds like evil for the sake of evil tbh.

No you don't lay down and die. If your apprentice challenges you, you better fight to kill them. In fact as the master better kill them. If they die then they are weak and you find another apprentice. If they end up killing you, then you're the weak one and you deserve death. Bane's goal was to overthrow and destroy the Jedi. The Brotherhood was being evil for the sake of evil. Bane wanted to put purpose back into the Sith like in the old days. The master holds and gains power giving direction to the the Order and the apprentice. The apprentice craves the power and must destroy the master when the time is ready, and ensure they are powerful. Bane wasn't against the Master finding ways to prolong their own life however. In fact he was looking into that himself when he feared Zannah wouldn't try and kill him. The Rule of Two is meant to keep the Sith pure and strong and ALIVE. Get as powerful as you can but if you train your apprentice right you will die. They will be more powerful than you, and their apprentice the same as time goes on. 

 

In the end the whole point is to keep the Sith as strong as possible because in reality, the Rule of Two is a gamble. If the master can't find an apprentice that is strong or (like in Palpatine's case) never truly has an apprentice then everything comes crashing down. The master doesn't work for the apprentice. The apprentice works for the master and learns from them. And when the master has outlived their usefulness. Then there is no reason for them to be kept around. They're weak by that point and the Sith loathe weakness. Any and all weakness must be stamped out.

 

I really recommend reading up on the Rule of Two and Darth Bane by checking out "The Book of Sith" and "The Darth Bane Trilogy" really interesting stuff.

[ObserverStatus]

No you don't lay down and die. If your apprentice challenges you, you better fight to kill them. In fact as the master better kill them. If they die then they are weak and you find another apprentice. If they end up killing you, then you're the weak one and you deserve death. Bane's goal was to overthrow and destroy the Jedi. The Brotherhood was being evil for the sake of evil. Bane wanted to put purpose back into the Sith like in the old days. The master holds and gains power giving direction to the the Order and the apprentice. The apprentice craves the power and must destroy the master when the time is ready, and ensure they are powerful. Bane wasn't against the Master finding ways to prolong their own life however. In fact he was looking into that himself when he feared Zannah wouldn't try and kill him. The Rule of Two is meant to keep the Sith pure and strong and ALIVE. Get as powerful as you can but if you train your apprentice right you will die. They will be more powerful than you, and their apprentice the same as time goes on. 

 

In the end the whole point is to keep the Sith as strong as possible because in reality, the Rule of Two is a gamble. If the master can't find an apprentice that is strong or (like in Palpatine's case) never truly has an apprentice then everything comes crashing down. The master doesn't work for the apprentice. The apprentice works for the master and learns from them. And when the master has outlived their usefulness. Then there is no reason for them to be kept around. They're weak by that point and the Sith loathe weakness. Any and all weakness must be stamped out.

 

I really recommend reading up on the Rule of Two and Darth Bane by checking out "The Book of Sith" and "The Darth Bane Trilogy" really interesting stuff.

If training an apprentice right will result in the death of the master, I still don't see what incentive the master has to train their apprentice right. The master has nothing to gain from the survival of the Sith or the fall of the Jedi if they're dead.

[Voxr]

If training an apprentice right will result in the death of the master, I still don't see what incentive the master has to train their apprentice right. The master has nothing to gain from the survival of the Sith or the fall of the Jedi if they're dead.

What's the point of being a Jedi and gaining power in the force if it's almost frowned upon to use it for anything than as a last resort? It's all in how you look at it I suppose. It's not that the master want's to die or will just fall on his sword saber when the apprentice says "Okay I'm master now."

 

Death is a fact of life. Better to die at the hands of your apprentice and see them now ready to continue the Sith legacy. Than to not even have one or truly train them and let everything be all for naught. As a master you should still try and become as powerful and strong as you can. Just eventually you'll be past your prime and there is no use for you.

 

Again the master doesn't let the apprentice win. If the master feels the apprentice is weak or just gets lucky and kills them, then so be it. Move on to another apprentice. And it's not a set time and date either. The apprentice usually betrays the master in the end. Just like the master did to theirs. In the end I suppose it is evil for the sake of evil, but in confines of SW it makes more sense because: lasers.

[DeathScepter]

If training an apprentice right will result in the death of the master, I still don't see what incentive the master has to train their apprentice right. The master has nothing to gain from the survival of the Sith or the fall of the Jedi if they're dead.

 

Well To a Sith, Strength is a virtue, if either the master or the apprentice is weak, neither of them are deserving to be a Sith.  Competition is another virtue of the Sith as well as the Rule of the Strong, The Strong are deserving of the power that they get and able to rule over the lesser people. In Short, being a Sith is a harsh way of living and a lonely road of power. Because you can't get attached to others for they will try to take your power if not flat out kill you. Their ultimate goal is to become the Alpha/Apex Predator.

 

 

Quan Chi of Mortal Kombat fame would be an excellent Sith Lord due to his cunning, fighting abilities and magical abilities.

[Cyonan]

What's the point of being a Jedi and gaining power in the force if it's almost frowned upon to use it for anything than as a last resort? It's all in how you look at it I suppose. It's not that the master want's to die or will just fall on his sword saber when the apprentice says "Okay I'm master now."

 

Death is a fact of life. Better to die at the hands of your apprentice and see them now ready to continue the Sith legacy. Than to not even have one or truly train them and let everything be all for naught. As a master you should still try and become as powerful and strong as you can. Just eventually you'll be past your prime and there is no use for you.

 

Again the master doesn't let the apprentice win. If the master feels the apprentice is weak or just gets lucky and kills them, then so be it. Move on to another apprentice. And it's not a set time and date either. The apprentice usually betrays the master in the end. Just like the master did to theirs. In the end I suppose it is evil for the sake of evil, but in confines of SW it makes more sense because: lasers.

 

Well to the Jedi the point is knowledge and sharing that knowledge with others, which is what most of them did.

 

The Sith are completely controlled by their own lust for power while the Jedi fear emotion and want to be unfeeling space monks.

 

To be honest neither of them are good at dealing with emotions. I'd prefer to sit in a grey area between the two, myself.

[mousestalker]

Well to the Jedi the point is knowledge and sharing that knowledge with others, which is what most of them did.
 
The Sith are completely controlled by their own lust for power while the Jedi fear emotion and want to be unfeeling space monks.
 
To be honest neither of them are good at dealing with emotions. I'd prefer to sit in a grey area between the two, myself.

The Jedi also have comfy chairs, whereas the Sith have extremely limited seating options.

[Call Me Jord]

The Jedi also have comfy chairs, whereas the Sith have extremely limited seating options.

 

Well to be fair, we do sit around and meditate all day. If we don't think of the damage that does to our behinds, who will?

 

Did I say "we"? I of course mean them. Those calm, collected, "I'd rather sit around all day and Meditate about the problems rather then fix the problems" scum!

 

And thanks to Swtor, the Sith have

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Lana. God bless that Woman.

 

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Even if she does look like she took a big pile of the white power right to the face, I still love her.

 

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The transition from concept art to her current look must of been a bumpy one!

[Voxr]

Well to the Jedi the point is knowledge and sharing that knowledge with others, which is what most of them did.

 

The Sith are completely controlled by their own lust for power while the Jedi fear emotion and want to be unfeeling space monks.

 

To be honest neither of them are good at dealing with emotions. I'd prefer to sit in a grey area between the two, myself.

It's all how you look at it. Jedi use the force for selfless reasons. Sith use it for selfish reasons. But both use it, or try to, to the fullest extent of said side. I'd argue few could sit in the grey and be proficient. Otherwise most are a jack of all trades, master of none. 

[SmilesJA]