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...and then I died.  I was blue.

 

Bastard was pretty hop happy.  What's the best way to fight it?  I thought getting near the back leg might work, but I actually couldn't seem to get there because it would just spin.

 

Also, is it worth bothering with the trebuchets?  I tried to preload one at the beginning, but I was slow and so she said "lol-wing-flap" and I got to start down half health.


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Depends what class you're on. What class are you asking for? Also which dragon, though Frost is the easiest.

 

i.e. Solo Katari is vastly different from Solo Archer and AW

 

Yes you can wind the Trebuchets, and pretty much ignore the Dragon even with Wing-flap. Just use the Trebuchets themselves as cover from her pull.



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After a number of dragon encounters I now feel the best way for all class is a straight up belly charge and fight from under neath it.  The wing flaps are the worst thing as far as straight up damage imo.  As Drasca asked, what class were you playing?



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AW!  I had Chain Lightning, Fade Cloak, Stone Fist and one near useless power.  It was the lightning dragon, which was good since my only staff is Fury of the Veil.



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The last one I killed was fire and I was using a mindchill staff. If I had full barrier from the little mooks, the auto attack alone was enough to take huge chunks of HP away and keep my barrier topped up. Don't blow FC if you don't need to, it will save your life many times. Keep it weakened with stone fist and use auto attacks. I stayed away from using CL to save my mana for FC and FS, the lifesaver moves. Always FC to keep from getting hit by the flapping wings.



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The only near successful solo attempts i have seen were both with legionaires(I was watching from the fade. They got really close but couldn't seal the deal. At the end the dragonlings kept pushing him around and hitting him from the back. Its very annoying because the hit box is all wrong and the seem to spin and push you around when you try to tank them. Ive had the same experience with my templar. I wish the dragonlings were stunnable so you could wrath+purge them. As it is I have to auto attack them to death while they do their unpredictable attack patterns.

It sounds like to me you would have been fine if the dragon were a different element.

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I use the same abilities, plus Fade Step. Positioning with damage. The mobility is too vital for me to pass up. The annoying thing is that Gathering Storm doesn't reduce your cooldowns vs. the dragon.

 

And I'd say use the trebuchets. If there are dragonlings nearby, use them to build up your barrier and keep winding to at least be ready for the next shot.



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You may have soloed dragons, but the real question is, did you do it in style?????

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I didn't use CL on it, since it was lightning, I was trying to hack a leg or two with Spirit Blade, but I couldn't usually get more than a hack in before it would knock me down or hop.  I might try going frost step after I promote again and no blade w/ auto attacks and SF.  Might set it to Cold and also remember to hit the resist tonic... =]

 

And I tried to look up vids / demonstrations but I didn't find any if they are there (perilous anyway).



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Do I need to post Katari Perilous Dragon solo to demonstrate? AW is pretty slow at single target (dragon) damage. Wavebend would probably be willing to post/demonstrate AW solo Perilous if he wanted to.



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It takes a while but it gets the job done



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I was only soling easy mode but I tried range attacks with an AW and the wings kicked my ass.  I finally just ran in and used spirit blade and that was the way to go.



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If you manage to get on his side in between the front and rear legs and a little bit under the belly and stay there by following his movements, you don't get hit by frost or fire dragons. Lightning will still get you there sometimes. But that is on threatening. However, perilous should not be different, it is the same dragon, just more hit points and more damage as behavior patterns are very similar. Actually, it is very similar to single player.



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I didn't use CL on it, since it was lightning, I was trying to hack a leg or two with Spirit Blade, but I couldn't usually get more than a hack in before it would knock me down or hop.  I might try going frost step after I promote again and no blade w/ auto attacks and SF.  Might set it to Cold and also remember to hit the resist tonic... =]

 

And I tried to look up vids / demonstrations but I didn't find any if they are there (perilous anyway).

Nooooo don't do that. I did vs. frost dragon and while I was succesful it was not fun. Fastest way to solo a perilous dragon with AW is to hack a storm one to death with spirit blade. Target the back legs, stonefist, fade step over and start smashing. Fade step if it moves and cloak if it kicks. Stonefist often to keep it weakened.


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^I will give it another go when I get built up with Fade Step then.



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I didn't use CL on it, since it was lightning, I was trying to hack a leg or two with Spirit Blade, but I couldn't usually get more than a hack in before it would knock me down or hop.  I might try going frost step after I promote again and no blade w/ auto attacks and SF.  Might set it to Cold and also remember to hit the resist tonic... =]

 

And I tried to look up vids / demonstrations but I didn't find any if they are there (perilous anyway).

 

Stone fist, Spirit blade. That's all you need.



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So six despair demons at once is a lot of bs.

 

What are the best passives to take, besides Restorative Veil and Combat Clarity?



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So six despair demons at once is a lot of bs.

 

What are the best passives to take, besides Restorative Veil and Combat Clarity?

 

I'm biased to the stuff on my build, obviously:

http://forum.bioware...rite-mp-builds/



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So are Mind over Matter and Strength of Spirits not worth it?  What about in relation to Stormbringer and Twisting Veil?  I notice you put MoM, SoS and Phasing on the extra survivable version, but do those passives help survive more than the debuff Veil passives?



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So are Mind over Matter and Strength of Spirits not worth it?  What about in relation to Stormbringer and Twisting Veil?  I notice you put MoM, SoS and Phasing on the extra survivable version, but do those passives help survive more than the debuff Veil passives?

 

Depends. Half of one, 1/2 of the other. Both are valid but the details matter. If you have lots of weakening on the field, then the weaken passives matter more. If your allies are having trouble surviving, the weaken passes matter more. If you're taking more damage and getting knocked down, the solo-survival passives matter more.



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So six despair demons at once is a lot of bs.

 

What are the best passives to take, besides Restorative Veil and Combat Clarity?

This is the core build I use for soloing a storm dragon http://da-skills.net...B,111,01C,011,0

 

I left it at 17 because beyond that there's not really any mandatory skills. Sometimes I replace chain lightning with fade step, sometimes not.

 

edit. I usually start doing dragon runs at lvl 13 when the skill tree looks like this http://da-skills.net...B,010,01C,010,0 but only against demons, otherwise I ragequit :lol:



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... and then my (spirit blade) was quicker.  Ungh!  So the dragon died.

 

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So here are the details, if anybody is curious or cares.  Ended up going with CL, FC, SF, and Blade, with this build.  Enemies in the main part of the map were Red Templar.  Used two electric tonics.  I also had regen pots and bees, but didn't use them.  Right before this, I made new mods for my staff.

 

Gear was this:

 

Fury of the Veil

  • Superb Spirit Rune
  • Inscribed Grip - 10% Attack, 5% Critical Chance
  • Battlemage Blade - 10% Attack, 5 Magic

Superb Amulet of Willpower

Superb Ranged Defense Belt (it was either that, heal, or stagger)

Superb Ring of Life Drain (10%)

Enhanced Ring of Attack (5%)

Enlightened Warrior's Armor (Mind)

  • Superior Battlemage Armor Arms (32% Spirit Resist)

My stats were

 

Constitution: 20

Willpower: 34

Cunning: 24

 

I don't think the build was too different than the first time I tried this and made this thread, but the mods on the staff weren't tier 3 yet (I had a mix of magic and willpower, but it was pretty low).  For the dragon, I did not try to preload the trebuchet at the beginning, I just went sort of to the middle and downed an electric pot.  So it was easier to get under her for SF and SB.  After she took off the first time, I did try to preload a trebuchet, but she hit me with electricity and I lost a bit of health, so I just decided to avoid them after that.  Dragonlings just got SF and SB over and over.  She only did the wing flap thing once after a hop at ~30% health, but I had high barrier and it didn't matter.

 

In between then and now I also tried a few runs with a Fade Step, Fade Cloak, Stone Fist, Spirit Blade build of various levels.  I don't think that build is for me.  It wasn't bad in the team games I played, but I think on Arcane I like to have CL, FC, and SF and then a fourth to be determined.



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Some things to consider:

 

To effectively spam spirit blade it's best to avoid shocking enemies because shock + weaken = sleep, thus no mana regen from hitting sleeping enemies. This is why I never take stormbringer passive so I have better control over the status effects I place on enemies. SB spam is only reliable against demons however so vs. venatori or templars SF - CL - FC spam tends to work best. I'd take a point away from stormbringer and put it to CL upgrade and leave phasing and take composed instead for that little bit of extra damage. But hey, looks like your build got the job done anyway so congrats.

 

Also if you happen to roll demons it's best to have a fire staff for those awful despair demons. Last time I counted 9 in zone 3.



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^Yeah I had already figured out that sleep gets rid of weaken, but putting a group of archers to sleep seems like it is worthwhile sometimes.

 

I actually just took Stormbringer and Phasing because I leveled up through 20 yesterday playing with friends and I was sort of at a loss of what to take since I didn't want to add on any more active abilities and I wasn't sure bonus armor or just some stats from some of the other passives would be worth it.  I will try those other passives next time.

 

I did have a question about accessories though.  I got the Superb Belt of Staggering the other day, which is "10% stagger on being hit."  That means any unit that hits me has a 10% chance of being staggered, right?  I wonder if it might be better than my Ranged Defense belt that I have on (and is on nearly all my characters since it was the first purple / decent belt I got).

 

As far as the Demons, I do need to get a decent fire staff.  Fury of the Veil is the only staff I have right now.



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I'd say go for the stagger belt, +10 ranged defense isn't going to save your life in perilous anyway.