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Further Proof The Architect is A Tevinter Magister


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Though this theory is common there are those that don't believe it or remain skeptical. Further bit of evidence to support it:
In the recently released Dragon Age: The World of Thedas Volume 2, There is a section detailing the chant of light. In Reference to Corypheus (Referred to as The Head Priest of Dumat / Head Priest of Silence) They call him The Conductor, Which is revealed to be the meaning of his name: Leader of the Choir, and his Achivement in DA2 calls him "The Conductor"

Then in the section referring to the Priests of Beauty (Urthemiel is the Old God of Beauty, and Archdemon of the 5th blight, the Archdemon in Dragon Age: Origins) They refer to the High Priest of Urthemiel as: The Architect of the Works of Beauty.
Just gotta say, imo this is reference to The Architect in Awakening actually being the High Priest of Urthemiel and one of the Magisters to enter the golden city.


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It has been confirmed by David Gaider, I believe. That the Architect was a Tevinter Magister, I mean. :)


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It has been confirmed by David Gaider, I believe. That the Architect was a Tevinter Magister, I mean.

Really? Heh righto then..Guess i'm late to the party =/



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Really? Heh righto then..Guess i'm late to the party =/

 

For shame. 

 

Did you at least bring booze?  :P


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Then in the section referring to the Priests of Beauty (Urthemiel is the Old God of Beauty, and Archdemon of the 5th blight, the Archdemon in Dragon Age: Origins) They refer to the High Priest of Urthemiel as: The Architect of the Works of Beauty.
Just gotta say, imo this is reference to The Architect in Awakening actually being the High Priest of Urthemiel and one of the Magisters to enter the golden city.

This is actually the first 'proof' that somewhat convinces me.

And considering the fact, that it was him who found and woke up/corrupted Urthemiel...

 

It has been confirmed by David Gaider, I believe. That the Architect was a Tevinter Magister, I mean.

What?! Where?



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If he does turn out to be a Tevinter Magister, I'll still believe either it was an idea that they came up with after the fact and retconed the original idea or they didn't bother to make the story seem consistent given that his personality, powers and relationship to the darkspawn seem totally different from Corypheus.


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What?! Where?

 

I seem to recall it was brought in during, at the very least, one thread dicussion it by someone who posted a quote but the link leading to the interview I found does not work anymore. I may work for you, however, so if you search "architect magister confirmed david gaider"

 

http://forum.bioware...magister-of-old - #10 post
 


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It seems that the Architect, like Corypheus in his own personal way, is trying to correct their mistake that led to the creation of Darkspawn and the Maker leaving his throne. While Corypheus, awakening badly from a long sleep, decides to wipe away the world and build a new one which reflects his old idea of Tevinter, the Architect decides that it's better to eliminate the Darkspawn by finding and destroying the Old Gods that are still sleeping and, in order to do that, he convinces and recruits some Grey Wardens who are the only people who can reach the cages without the risk of hearing the ancient song of the Gods.

In the novel The Calling the Architect is actively recruiting and we can see the Darkspawn digging in the Deep Roads. It is possible that he led them inadvertently to the cage of Urthemiel giving rise to the Fifth Blight.


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In the novel The Calling the Architect is actively recruiting and we can see the Darkspawn digging in the Deep Roads. It is possible that he led them inadvertently to the cage of Urthemiel giving rise to the Fifth Blight.

 

In Awakening, it is revealed that the Architect is responsible for the corruption of Urthemiel apparently because of a botched attempt to turn him into a disciple; essentially a sentient darkspawn.


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Really? Heh righto then..Guess i'm late to the party =/

 

Yeah, but good job with the name! I always wondered why he wanted to call himself "the Architect", but now it makes sense.

 

Also, this reminds me: WoT2 is still missing from my bookshelf. This needs to be corrected - ASAP.



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In Awakening, it is revealed that the Architect is responsible for the corruption of Urthemiel apparently because of a botched attempt to turn him into a disciple; essentially a sentient darkspawn.

This is not correct, the Architect is a liar his true purpose was not to help his kind by transforming the Dragon into a disciple but was rather to try to save one of his precious pet, the one that he use to worship.
I killed him and killed his pet forever and without remorse Urthemiel can sing his song into the Oblivion alongside his brothers from now on,it seems that there is another one in the western approach,i will take care of him.

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If he does turn out to be a Tevinter Magister, I'll still believe either it was an idea that they came up with after the fact and retconed the original idea or they didn't bother to make the story seem consistent given that his personality, powers and relationship to the darkspawn seem totally different from Corypheus.

Fair enough, Though I see Why his personality and relationship with the darkspawn Are different from Cory. He (probably) lost his memory.
His powers might be inconsistent with Cory, though it's not necessary that they have the same powers.
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Ok so as badassery goes...

Hawke defeated one psycho templar and the harvester.

Inquisitor defeated Cory which is a magistere.

 

The Warden,

Archdemon

Architect (magistere)

The Harvester 

 

I count dragons & Demons out of the competition.



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The Architect actions makes me think that it is the magisters that start each blight by waking up there respective gods and indirectly corrupting them. First they try go enter the gold city to reach there gods then get corrupted instead, then return to thedas and lead darkspawn to there gods who was underground this whole time thus starting a blight. WOT 2 kinda shows that darkspawn are afraid to enter the old gods prison and they are rumored to mindless to find it without help so something must lead them there and enter where they are afraid to.
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Fair enough, Though I see Why his personality and relationship with the darkspawn Are different from Cory. He (probably) lost his memory.
His powers might be inconsistent with Cory, though it's not necessary that they have the same powers.

 

Well, he might as well have jumped on Velanna's sister body if we choose to kill him. I think it's more likely he will come back regardless of our choice, but his attitude might be different when we see him again.


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That anyone still speculates over the Architect being a former magister is beyond me? Of course he is, just like Cory was.


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If he does turn out to be a Tevinter Magister, I'll still believe either it was an idea that they came up with after the fact and retconed the original idea or they didn't bother to make the story seem consistent given that his personality, powers and relationship to the darkspawn seem totally different from Corypheus.


His appearance in Awakening greatly resembles that of Corypheus. As far as his personality and powers, it's possible that being in the City altered the Magisters in different ways. And he could have had a distinct personality to begin with. The big question is whether they all have the body hopping powers or not. Because if they do, the Architect can come back no matter what.
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Well, he might as well have jumped on Velanna's sister body if we choose to kill him. I think it's more likely he will come back regardless of our choice, but his attitude might be different when we see him again.

 

That, or even Utha. 


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I think it is possible the Architect was deceiving the Wardens. If he straight up said, "Hi there. I'm not only a Darkspawn, the things you are sworn to kill, but I am also one of those Magisters. You know, the guys who caused the Blights. Yeah, so help me," No one would have even let him finish after that. 

 

I also think the writers always knew he was a Magister. They went through all that effort to make him seem different, never gave him an origin, and when he dies he drops the Robes of Urthemiel. I also think they always intended him to have body hopping abilities, as no matter what you do Velanna's sister escapes, and they went to a lot of effort to imply she disappears. Also, the Architects plans, in hindsight, seem a little self serving. He wanted to spread the Blight. Potentially the vehicle for his immortality. I also wonder if the reverse joining he proposed in DA:A was a tool to try and give him the same control over Darkspawn as Magisters have over Wardens.


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Really? Heh righto then..Guess i'm late to the party =/

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And seriously can someone give me link. I her everybody say architect is original magister but never see real source.


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It was interesting to me that the Architect was the magister affiliated with Uthemriel. I think there is something there we are not fully aware of. I am glad that I killed him.

 

I wonder how many more of the ancient magisters are still around?



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And seriously can someone give me link. I her everybody say architect is original magister but never see real source.


It's in the second volume of World of Thedas. You can see it in the preview on Amazon. Just find the Canticle of Silence and start reading.
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His appearance in Awakening greatly resembles that of Corypheus. As far as his personality and powers, it's possible that being in the City altered the Magisters in different ways. And he could have had a distinct personality to begin with. The big question is whether they all have the body hopping powers or not. Because if they do, the Architect can come back no matter what.

 

For Corypheus to have rebounded from Legacy into Inquisition, in my estimation the Architect is long overdue to make a much needed reappearance. From what we've been shown of these two blight-riddled darkspawn characters, I really appreciate the differences in their mannerisms and seemingly different agendas. More please!!



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It seems a shame that such a potentially interesting character as The Architect only got to feature in an expansion. Pity most people killed him off.


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It seems a shame that such a potentially interesting character as The Architect only got to feature in an expansion. Pity most people killed him off.

 

He got codex entry in DAI.. but I really hope we see him in future games.