She is definitely hot there is no doubt. I was thinking it would show me why you would prefer some kind of "lumberjack lady" vs the da2 version, but it doesn't. Julie Benz is bangin...idk....
There's so much of it.
She is definitely hot there is no doubt. I was thinking it would show me why you would prefer some kind of "lumberjack lady" vs the da2 version, but it doesn't. Julie Benz is bangin...idk....
They weren't, since plenty of straight males found them attractive.
The thought that Bioware would intentionally screw a bit part of the fanbase is, in my opinion, laughable.
I do wonder Why People Are so focused on Bioware attsckijg the straight male fanbase. Plenty of people complained about the female LI in DA2, but I don't recall theories of an intentional attack from Bioware.
Laughable, but also fun/funny.
You should stop and think for a moment. Even if this is true, even if Cassandra and Josaphine are anything close to 'ugly' or even 'average,' what does the existence of a debate at all say about my point? What does people being upset about characters not being attravtive enough say?
Oh I know this one
Heroism
I didn't say Cass was unattractive in DA2.
I just think Ashley's makeup is hideous.
Fair enough.
The struggle is real though. That's just part of every day life haha.
Well, yes. I usually laugh When I found something funnyLaughable, but also fun/funny.
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people get cray cray when the feel threatenedThey weren't, since plenty of straight males found them attractive.
The thought that Bioware would intentionally screw a bit part of the fanbase is, in my opinion, laughable.
I do wonder Why People Are so focused on Bioware attsckijg the straight male fanbase. Plenty of people complained about the female LI in DA2, but I don't recall theories of an intentional attack from Bioware.
Well, for example, one could find the DA2 face models generally bad *raise hand*.
Except Isabela and Marian Hawke. Those ladies are the most attractive.
Cassandra looked like the long lost twin sister of Hawke.
Well, yes. I usually laugh When I found something funny
I meant being on my side saying it. To take people arguments and then turn them back on them is funny. There are a few people that would do that in the romance threads and it was just hilarious.
They were just trolling of course and no serious at all, but they would go in say.....the Iron Bull thread and start talking like "Iron Bull is a Qunari so he should act like a real man" He should break your female characters hips and be straight" And come with the "we need more representation and representation the resembles us in real life" Just stuff people would say about other love interest and they would just flip out. They would be so mad and defending themselves like it was war. This forum had me in tears MANY times during the "romance period"
It says that these people are shallow.
I just think Ashley's makeup is hideous.
Except Isabela and Marian Hawke. Those ladies are the most attractive.
Cassandra looked like the long lost twin sister of Hawke.
It was funny that Isabela and Hawke were the only one's who had decent face models
It was funny that Isabela and Hawke were the only one's who had decent face models
Well, i'm lucky then. 
Well, romance threads Are generally funny to read. They're on my top three list with mage-templar threads and Cerberus threads.I meant being on my side saying it. To take people arguments and then turn them back on them is funny. There are a few people that would do that in the romance threads and it was just hilarious.
They were just trolling of course and no serious at all, but they would go in say.....the Iron Bull thread and start talking like "Iron Bull is a Qunari so he should act like a real man" He should break your female characters hips and be straight" And come with the "we need more representation and representation the resembles us in real life" Just stuff people would say about other love interest and they would just flip out. They would be so mad and defending themselves like it was war. This forum had me in tears MANY times during the "romance period"
Well, romance threads Are generally funny to read. They're on my top three list with mage-templar threads and Cerberus threads.
alas we haven't had a good Cerberus thread in a while, or a geth v quarian
Btw I wasn't trying to go off the deep end or make it so that you didn't even want to respond to me or anything. I wasn't trying to come off like an ass. I was just trying to best say my piece with clarity. I think you're a good poster and I don't have any issues with you or anything.
haha. seriously though just wanted to clear that up. If you didn't have anything to respond with then thats all good too.
I hear you.....but its like this.
Here is Cas in DAI
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Here is Cas in DA2. Now keep in mind I can't stand short hair on women. I find it extremely unattractive and I STILL say she looks good in DA2 I would even say she looks great and of course much better than DAI.
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To me there's nothing left. Just the evidence haha. People may not agree with that....but I just don't know about that one.
Bam. That's all it takes IMO. I mean I could put up Morrigan, but I like to think of myself as somewhat humane most of the time
I'll throw an Ashley cuz they killed it with her.
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Also what is up with all the sickos and their porn of these characters. There's more of that then the actual characters. Some people.......
...hypocrite?
If someone doesn't like Dorian's quest because they don't think it was well-written, so be it. I'm not about to argue with them.
If one's objection, however, is that having a single follower quest -- out of the four followers who are gay or bisexual -- which makes their sexuality at all relevant somehow makes that the entire point of the quest or, indeed, Dorian's arc as a character...then I'm afraid I'll simply have to shrug and say their comment says more about them than anything else.
It's rather like the occasional messages I get from certain parties who complain about how the game "caters to gay people" ...why? Evidently because there isn't enough content for straight people (meaning more than they got, which is actually the same as in previous DA games), because they don't like the content they did get and ascribe that to either a gay or feminist agenda which is being "rammed down their throat" (an odd metaphor to select, if you ask me), or because those characters exist at all...and the mere existence of a few characters or themes that relate in any way to the actual world we live in is somehow too jarring a notion in a mature-themed game already full of themes that cover almost everything else under the sun.
It's an odd thing to obsess this much over, considering there's so much else in the game to occupy one's attention, but hey -- you do you.
Speaking personally, I do feel like Dorian's personal mission felt like a bit of "wasted potential" just because there were so many fascinating aspects to his character. I think more could have been done with him. Compare, say, Cassandra, who got a quest of "personal" relevance with Swords & Shields, as well as a "plot"-relevant personal quest with the Seekers. Granted, the Swords & Shields quest wasn't particularly heavy, so it's not a perfect comparison, but, hey, doesn't Dorian deserve better anyway?
That all said, the meeting between Dorian and his father was, in my opinion, so gosh darn well done in pretty much all terms, that I'm glad it was included. There was clearly effort put into it, and it definitely felt like an emotionally-charged scene about family than it did a "here's our token 'minority' moment to appeal to a specific audience" and I only came away from it loving the character more.
But still, guys, c'mon, that's all the more reason we need more content about Dorian and his homeland and the Venatori. Please? Guys? Please? Can't we please has "Dorian's Song"?
As a straight male I've played 2 Dragon Age games without a paramour now. Neither Isabela nor Merrill nor Cassandra nor Josephine appealed to me romantically for my main PC.
Ashley is probably my favorite Bioware love interest. And I thought she was very attractive in both ME 1 and ME 3. Although I think maybe some of the alternate redesigns from the ME 3 art book would have worked better for her new look. But the fact that every one of the recent non Scout Harding female love interests don't appeal to me as much is not because straight people are being neglected. It's just because my own personal tastes haven't been met lately. And that's just how things go. Some games have LI that I love, some don't. That's just kind of unavoidable.
As a straight male I've played 2 Dragon Age games without a paramour now. Neither Isabela nor Merrill nor Cassandra nor Josephine appealed to me romantically for my main PC.
Ashley is probably my favorite Bioware love interest. And I thought she was very attractive in both ME 1 and ME 3. Although I think maybe some of the alternate redesigns from the ME 3 art book would have worked better for her new look. But the fact that every one of the recent non Scout Harding female love interests don't appeal to me as much is not because straight people are being neglected. It's just because my own personal tastes haven't been met lately. And that's just how things go. Some games have LI that I love, some don't. That's just kind of unavoidable.
Never understood how people could feel neglected when it just so happened to be that the available love interests were just not their type.
I mean, would they sue life if they're single for more than x amount of years because they haven't found their type yet?
So long as you've got the options and these options are fleshed out and well written (which is almost guaranteed with Bioware), you're not being neglected.
As a straight male I've played 2 Dragon Age games without a paramour now. Neither Isabela nor Merrill nor Cassandra nor Josephine appealed to me romantically for my main PC.
Ashley is probably my favorite Bioware love interest. And I thought she was very attractive in both ME 1 and ME 3. Although I think maybe some of the alternate redesigns from the ME 3 art book would have worked better for her new look. But the fact that every one of the recent non Scout Harding female love interests don't appeal to me as much is not because straight people are being neglected. It's just because my own personal tastes haven't been met lately. And that's just how things go. Some games have LI that I love, some don't. That's just kind of unavoidable.
See, now you are doing the neglecting. It is a sad day today.
For the record though. If I could romance Legion I would do it. I love Legion. And all geth. Down with Quarians.
You know if you assume Josephine is shallow and thus neglecting straight male gamers, they must also be neglecting gay female gamers. And they get Sera instead of Cassandra. Not only does Sera also have short hair, but I'm quite certain she rubs lot more people the wrong way than Cassandra. The devs knew she was going to be polarizing and not to everyone's taste. Therefore, even if I assumed my interests were universal, Bioware's choices still wouldn't be only an attack on straight gamers either way.
You know if you assume Josephine is shallow and thus neglecting straight male gamers, they must also be neglecting gay female gamers. And they get Sera instead of Cassandra. Not only does Sera also have short hair, but I'm quite certain she rubs lot more people the wrong way than Cassandra. The devs knew she was going to be polarizing and not to everyone's taste. Therefore, even if I assumed my interests were universal, Bioware's choices still wouldn't be only an attack on straight gamers either way.
We will never make it being like this to one another.
It says straight males were neglected in the romance process. A direct attack on them as a group.
Btw I wasn't trying to go off the deep end or make it so that you didn't even want to respond to me or anything. I wasn't trying to come off like an ass. I was just trying to best say my piece with clarity. I think you're a good poster and I don't have any issues with you or anything.
haha. seriously though just wanted to clear that up. If you didn't have anything to respond with then thats all good too.
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