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Writer Interview: Sexual Diversity of Krem, Dorian and Sera


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#451
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Don't you think that's a necessary part of being a 'real woman'? Being desired, being alluring? Being courted? Having your 'femininity' valued and appreciated and loved?

 

In this case, what's "necessary" is really just a matter of perspective.



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Yeah, I'm done with you.
I think trans women should definitely have the opportunity to be the leading lady. The fact that you don't want to kiss them is completely ****** irrelevant.


It's monumentally relevant. I don't want to spend my limited time and attention on a romantic story with characters I find repulsive. Nor with a narrator whom is trying to sell me something I'm not buying.

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Don't you think that's a necessary part of being a 'real woman'? Being desired, being alluring? Being courted? Having your 'femininity' valued and appreciated and loved?

I'm more than just an object to be ogled at because I was born with a vagina and because "boobs", thank you very much.


That being said, I've seen many real women who are transgendered be twice the woman I could ever be.



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It says there's something wrong with a society that denies them this.
Ugh, I said I was done...


People don't have a right to want what they want? They're obligated to find, in this particular case, transgendered people alluring?

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It's monumentally relevant. I don't want to spend my limited time and attention on a romantic story with characters I find repulsive. Nor with a narrator whom is trying to sell me something I'm not buying.

 

I don't really see why it matters. In all likelihood, whatever game that offers this would no doubt allow you to opt out of such content altogether. If there was a trans leading role, very likely you'd have the option of just using a character whose gender and biological sex align anyhow, and just the same allow you to choose a companion of the same stripe. People find all sorts of characters unappealing or even repulsive (some people find Isabela repulsive. Imagine that). It doesn't matter, because there's no real accounting for an individual's personal taste.


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It's monumentally relevant. I don't want to spend my limited time and attention on a romantic story with characters I find repulsive. Nor with a narrator whom is trying to sell me something I'm not buying.

 

That doesn't mean that devs shouldn't do it, every LI has people who aren't attracted to that LI and that's just normal since people are different. If that happens you can chose to romance another character or not to do romances, easy like that.


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Even if that was true, which it isn't, it would only make it okay to feature, in this particular case, transgendered people as romances in games where romance is chosen by the player.

Which is less than 1% of fiction. Far less.

That would mean that in regular fiction, where the audience has no choice, they're back to being excluded?

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It's monumentally relevant. I don't want to spend my limited time and attention on a romantic story with characters I find repulsive. Nor with a narrator whom is trying to sell me something I'm not buying.

  

People don't have a right to want what they want? They're obligated to find, in this particular case, transgendered people alluring?


Then romance somebody you do want. It's that simple.

If I wasn't into bald dudes, I wouldn't romance Solas. If I wasn't into beards, I wouldn't romance Blackwall. The end.
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Even if that was true, which it isn't, it would only make it okay to feature, in this particular case, transgendered people as romances in games where romance is chosen by the player.

Which is less than 1% of fiction. Far less.

That would mean that in regular fiction, where the audience has no choice, they're back to being excluded?

 

Umm of cource not? In those fictions transgenders can be leading characters without there being choice.



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Even if that was true, which it isn't, it would only make it okay to feature, in this particular case, transgendered people as romances in games where romance is chosen by the player.

Which is less than 1% of fiction. Far less.

That would mean that in regular fiction, where the audience has no choice, they're back to being excluded?

 

So let me get this straight: Every main character of a work of fiction that you enjoy needs to have a love interest you would personally want to be with sexually? Even though the love interest is the main character's love interest, not yours?


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It's monumentally relevant. I don't want to spend my limited time and attention on a romantic story with characters I find repulsive. Nor with a narrator whom is trying to sell me something I'm not buying.

Even if that was true, which it isn't, it would only make it okay to feature, in this particular case, transgendered people as romances in games where romance is chosen by the player.
Which is less than 1% of fiction. Far less.
That would mean that in regular fiction, where the audience has no choice, they're back to being excluded?


In Bioware games, I doubt you'll be forced on romaning anyone, transgenders included.
About regular fiction, if a book/movie/game portrays a romantic story with a transgender woman...don't read/watch/play it. I honestly don't see the problem.
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I found this thread hilarious, also Ironic that bunch of dudes which have naked mans in their avatar will ****** so much about this...

 

http://forum.bodybui...php?t=165423231

What am i reading? My eyes are bleeding. No rhyme intended. Not saying that Triss is not attractive, but her personality is fairly bland compared to Cassandra. On top of that Cassandra is beautiful, smart, strong, romantic and has a rich and engaging story. People are way to concerned with oogling instead of learning about personalities, even in games. I need a shower after that thread, i can't believe i am sharing a hobby with people like that. 


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Umm of cource not? In those fictions transgenders can be leading characters without there being choice.


But they aren't.

The audience won't accept it. They won't accept such a character as the beautiful princess.

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But they aren't.

The audience won't accept it. They won't accept such a character as the beautiful princess.


So insightful, so profound... speaking for every audience member on the planet, like some kind of misguided Messiah...
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So let me get this straight: Every main character of a work of fiction that you enjoy needs to have a love interest you would personally want to be with sexually? Even though the love interest is the main character's love interest, not yours?


It has little to do with love interests.

Fiction is full of beautiful people whether they're love interests or not. Advertisements are full of beautiful people. Something as simple as encyclopedia articles nearly always select pictures of people very significantly more attractive than average.

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GUYS

 

you're forgetting the most important thing

 

 

HHHHHEEERRROOOOOOOOOOIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSMMMMMMMMMM


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But they aren't.

The audience won't accept it. They won't accept such a character as the beautiful princess.

I...

what is...


Echh....


You know there's at least 6999999999 more people on this planet than you, right?


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But they aren't.
The audience won't accept it. They won't accept such a character as the beautiful princess.

Not every story has a romantic plot with a princess. And they shouldn't.
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It has little to do with love interests.

Fiction is full of beautiful people whether they're love interests or not. Advertisements are full of beautiful people. Something as simple as encyclopedia articles nearly always select pictures of people very significantly more attractive than average.

 

So we should ban Steve Buscemi from acting? That'd be a tragedy.


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But they aren't.

The audience won't accept it. They won't accept such a character as the beautiful princess.

I would am I not the "audience "
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But they aren't.

The audience won't accept it. They won't accept such a character as the beautiful princess.

 

Close-minded groups that dislike different minorites shouldn't be allowed to affect media that much that there is no transgender characters.



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EDIT: double post for some reason..

 

So I guess I will just post some transgender characters here since it's on original topic :)

 

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Hope to see her in future games too, though it was nice to get wartable mission about her too ^^

 

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Sadly I don't have more transgender characters in video games.. we need more :P


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#473
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It has little to do with love interests.

Fiction is full of beautiful people whether they're love interests or not. Advertisements are full of beautiful people. Something as simple as encyclopedia articles nearly always select pictures of people very significantly more attractive than average.

Sooo your argument is basically that leading roles should only be occupied by people you find appealing/physically attractive? That's not a terribly compelling one.


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Guys, everyone knows that to be heroic one must be attractive, and to be attractive one must conform to beauty standards decided upon by the current heads of the advertising industry


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It has little to do with love interests.

Fiction is full of beautiful people whether they're love interests or not. Advertisements are full of beautiful people. Something as simple as encyclopedia articles nearly always select pictures of people very significantly more attractive than average.

But what is beautiful to some are not always to others. So who gets to define what is beautiful? I am glad that they went away from the obvious sex appeal they pushed in Dragon Age II, it was honestly tiresome. We needed grounded characters with values and realistic looks. Not every game can be The Witcher that spreads women and their legs around way to obviously. Luckily its optional.