Aller au contenu

Photo

Writer Interview: Sexual Diversity of Krem, Dorian and Sera


1001 réponses à ce sujet

#26
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 787 messages

Neat interview, though I'm disappointed that Krem's tendency to stand on his chair wasn't addressed.  

 

I assumed it was some kind of Tevinter drinking ritual.


  • NeKumon, AresKeith, Steelcan et 1 autre aiment ceci

#27
Googleness

Googleness
  • Members
  • 2 118 messages

I found this thread hilarious, also Ironic that bunch of dudes which have naked mans in their avatar will ****** so much about this...

 

http://forum.bodybui...php?t=165423231


  • Mihura, Akrabra, daveliam et 6 autres aiment ceci

#28
BraveVesperia

BraveVesperia
  • Members
  • 1 602 messages

I assumed it was some kind of Tevinter drinking ritual.

Or he just feels inferior because his boss is huge. If Krem stands on a chair, they might be about the same height.  :P



#29
renfrees

renfrees
  • Members
  • 2 060 messages

And I get the feeling that having an affair (or several) while married wouldn't be a problem for Tevinter high society if the people involved were straight.

It's not a problem in Tevinter regardless of sexual orientation. There's always slaves, you know. Just keep it on that level and nobody bats an eye.



#30
BSpud

BSpud
  • Members
  • 1 039 messages

I found this thread hilarious, also Ironic that bunch of dudes which have naked mans in their avatar will ****** so much about this...

 

http://forum.bodybui...php?t=165423231

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



#31
Fredward

Fredward
  • Members
  • 4 992 messages

I found this thread hilarious, also Ironic that bunch of dudes which have naked mans in their avatar will ****** so much about this...

 

http://forum.bodybui...php?t=165423231

 

They also don't appreciate the strong homoerotic undertone of their forum being pointed out just as a general fyi.



#32
Googleness

Googleness
  • Members
  • 2 118 messages

tbh it was much weirder in DA:2 where random npcs no matter which race or gender tried to bed me but still too much emphasize on awkward 2 minutes cutscenes without any nudity or in depth something.

 

iirc in BG2 for example, you could have a kid with the winged elf or something... or in NWN:HOTU you could romance aribeth to convince her to side with you at the final battle...

here it's more meh awkward scene... too much hassle.



#33
Ariella

Ariella
  • Members
  • 3 693 messages

It's not a problem in Tevinter regardless of sexual orientation. There's always slaves, you know. Just keep it on that level and nobody bats an eye.


I mean if it were discovered. A heterosexual affair would get a nod and a wink. As for slaves, that's more sex and less love. I don't see Dorian going that route.

#34
slimgrin

slimgrin
  • Members
  • 12 449 messages

David's assertion about this aspect affecting sales is off base. Of course it's not going to affect sales when you offer choices in this area. He really over thinks the issue.



#35
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 787 messages

I found this thread hilarious, also Ironic that bunch of dudes which have naked mans in their avatar will ****** so much about this...

 

http://forum.bodybui...php?t=165423231

 

Seems about par for the course for that site. What a bunch of wieners, using ph instead of f.



#36
renfrees

renfrees
  • Members
  • 2 060 messages

I mean if it were discovered. A heterosexual affair would get a nod and a wink. As for slaves, that's more sex and less love. I don't see Dorian going that route.

WoT states that Dorian frequented elven whorehouses for months. In dialogue with Sera Dorian admits that she's the first free elf he met. Shall I continue?



#37
Ariella

Ariella
  • Members
  • 3 693 messages

WoT states that Dorian frequented elven whorehouses for months. In dialogue with Sera Dorian admits that she's the first free elf he met. Shall I continue?


I don't own WoT, and generally speaking when going to a whorehouse, you're paying for the pleasure and not in a relationship.

As I said, we're not talking about sex but love.

#38
Guest_john_sheparrd_*

Guest_john_sheparrd_*
  • Guests

Dorian is one of my favourite companions from the game (with Cassandra) but I wasn't a fan of his quest 

it came off as preachy, there was no need to make it all about his sexuality 

 

 

Don't get me started on Krem, absolutely hated his dialogue and Iron Bulls response too


  • Kallas_br123, Kulyok, ThePhoenixKing et 1 autre aiment ceci

#39
AresKeith

AresKeith
  • Members
  • 34 128 messages

Dorian is one of my favourite companions from the game (with Cassandra) but I wasn't a fan of his quest 

it came off as preachy, there was no need to make it all about his sexuality 

 

It wasn't all about his sexuality 



#40
renfrees

renfrees
  • Members
  • 2 060 messages

I don't own WoT, and generally speaking when going to a whorehouse, you're paying for the pleasure and not in a relationship.

As I said, we're not talking about sex but love.

Then which route that Dorian wouldn't go did you have in mind? I thought you were talking about him using slaves for pleasure, was I wrong?



#41
Toasted Llama

Toasted Llama
  • Members
  • 1 468 messages

I found this thread hilarious, also Ironic that bunch of dudes which have naked mans in their avatar will ****** so much about this...

 

http://forum.bodybui...php?t=165423231

I want to grab a needle and start popping them muscles...



#42
Steelcan

Steelcan
  • Members
  • 23 276 messages

It wasn't all about his sexuality 

it mostly was, I'm not overly against it, but I was rolling my eyes when his companion mission was about daddy issues over being gay


  • Kallas_br123 aime ceci

#43
Steelcan

Steelcan
  • Members
  • 23 276 messages

 

Don't get me started on Krem, absolutely hated his dialogue and Iron Bulls response too

This is my much bigger complaint

 

It came across as a way to avoid the implications of the Qunari's strict "give zero sh*ts about individual thought" as applied to sexuality, becuase otherwise it might offend people, and Maker forbid a BioWare game be offensive in some way


  • Kallas_br123, Uccio, Texhnolyze101 et 2 autres aiment ceci

#44
Googleness

Googleness
  • Members
  • 2 118 messages

it mostly was, I'm not overly against it, but I was rolling my eyes when his companion mission was about daddy issues over being gay

 

yes so much this.

his dad tried blood magic in order to make him straight.

 

*facepalm*

 

some quest in this game are just .... stupid.


  • Kallas_br123 aime ceci

#45
Laughing_Man

Laughing_Man
  • Members
  • 3 622 messages

Can we please go back to having actual deep, story-driven, intriguing RPGs that had a pleasent side-dish of romance, instead of getting an RPG seemingly about romance, sexuality, diversity, and political correctness with a side-dish of story and gameplay?

 

Hmm... why is Bioware not thinking about actually making a dating-sim? There is a large crowd that goes nuts for the stuff.

It will also be the perfect platform for preaching about everything mentioned above.

 

Maybe then the RPG genre can be free to be more about player choices and grey morality. Because after all, Bioware's games are for adults, right?...


  • Kallas_br123, Texhnolyze101, ThePhoenixKing et 3 autres aiment ceci

#46
Shadow Fox

Shadow Fox
  • Members
  • 4 206 messages

It's so sad the world doesn't see this. It's like the only women men MUST find sexually unattractive are so hideous they're part troll. 

 

I find all of the pandering to the different minority crowds atrocious. It's like those really bad "diverse" Marvel heroes back in the 70's. Sera was at least downplayed about it, it never came up unless you tried to romance her (and since I never did, I could be free to judge her on her own merits.) Krem was the same way, I could ignore it and move on (And you know what, despite being a small character, I liked Krem without any of that BS. The flavor text on the missions was actually fun). Whereas if I played Dorian's quest, I had to sift through several scenes of "I'm gay, Daddy!" 

 

No nuance, no subtlety. It felt like it was abandoning the one thing that might actually be done well (the way he feels about Tevinter) and just shoveling down the wrong way. 

Those characters weren't bad because they were minorities they were bad because they were ethnic stereotypes written by white dudes.


  • vertigomez, ThePhoenixKing, StringBean23 et 1 autre aiment ceci

#47
Toasted Llama

Toasted Llama
  • Members
  • 1 468 messages

I found this thread hilarious, also Ironic that bunch of dudes which have naked mans in their avatar will ****** so much about this...

 

http://forum.bodybui...php?t=165423231

Skimming through the thread when I stumble upon this:

"What is even more baffling is that you COULD in DA:O. I romanced her in the first game, Isabela in the 2nd game and despite importing my character into Inquisition, I'm introduced to Leliana as if we've never met before.

Bioware Y U DO DIS."


And then this:

Someone else's reply: "The inquisitor has never met her before. If you keep playing the game, the hero of ferelden (DA:O) is referenced later on and she dedicates an entire conversation to him/her if you imported from the Keep.

"I just read the wiki page on Leliana and realized this now. frown.gif Sucks... No wonder everyone is treating me like a stranger."

This guy didn't even realise he wasn't playing the same character from origins (or even DA2)... I can't even-- x"D

The average IQ on that thread is worse than a potato, I swear.


  • Doloriss, Cespar, Silcron et 13 autres aiment ceci

#48
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 787 messages

Can we please go back to having actual deep, story-driven, intriguing RPGs that had a pleasent side-dish of romance, instead of getting an RPG seemingly about romance, sexuality, diversity, and political correctness with a side-dish of story and gameplay?

 

Hmm... why is Bioware not thinking about actually making a dating-sim? There is a large crowd that goes nuts for the stuff.

It will also be the perfect platform for preaching about everything mentioned above.

 

Maybe then the RPG genre can be free to be more about player choices and grey morality. Because after all, Bioware's games are for adults, right?...

 

I think the forum tends to overplay the actual amount of romance-specific content you really get in this game. There's certainly a lot of companion content (non-romantic), but that's been the case for pretty much all of their games in both DA and ME.


  • mopotter, Ryzaki, Karai9 et 3 autres aiment ceci

#49
TheJediSaint

TheJediSaint
  • Members
  • 6 637 messages

yes so much this.

his dad tried blood magic in order to make him straight.

 

*facepalm*

 

some quest in this game are just .... stupid.

 

I didn't think it was stupid.  The "blood magic the gay away" device was only the surface of the Dorian's quest.

 

The actual gist of the story was about a son being betrayed by his father, and how they eventually reconciled (or didn't).


  • mopotter, Hiemoth, The Serge777 et 14 autres aiment ceci

#50
Googleness

Googleness
  • Members
  • 2 118 messages

Skimming through the thread when I stumble upon this:

"What is even more baffling is that you COULD in DA:O. I romanced her in the first game, Isabela in the 2nd game and despite importing my character into Inquisition, I'm introduced to Leliana as if we've never met before.

Bioware Y U DO DIS."


And then this:

Someone else's reply: "The inquisitor has never met her before. If you keep playing the game, the hero of ferelden (DA:O) is referenced later on and she dedicates an entire conversation to him/her if you imported from the Keep.

"I just read the wiki page on Leliana and realized this now. frown.gif Sucks... No wonder everyone is treating me like a stranger."

This guy didn't even realise he wasn't playing the same character from origins (or even DA2)... I can't even-- x"D

The average IQ on that thread is worse than a potato, I swear.

hahahha darwin wins again.