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Maevaris wasn't exactly pleased when Varric saw her without her dress, exposing her still quite masculine body, so I think she was hiding her transgender aspect? Perhaps if she was discovered to be trans, she wouldn't be a magister anymore.

 

 

 

 

Pfff, if Bioware doesn't change the current model of how they're tackling trans characters, I'm going to accidentally offend/hurt a person who's transgender, curiosity kills the cat and all that. I always want to ask questions about these sorts of things, partially because I'm interested and partially because I want to understand them better, so I took Bioware's bait and asked the really offensive questions to Krem. Gosh, I felt bad! It doesn't help that the descriptions of the questions you're about to ask often differ from what your character says.

I wish the topic of transgender was part of the standard/obligatory to be taught in schools. I was taught about homosexuality, so why not transgender? Could've helped me have my Inquisitor NOT be an ass towards Krem lol

I don't know maybe you right then i read comics I see nothing to look like Maevaris was hiding somthing, well i am sure he is hiding blood magic.

 

And I am surprised we agree on something. Krem was made so bad, and people wander why some think bioware forcing LGBT content.

We have 4 dialog options. 1 is I don't care. 3 why you dress like a man? are you women?...

And for asking simple question Iron bull attacks Inquisitor like he is some worse then darkspawn *******. Bioware forced as with Krem on the guilt trip.



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I don't know maybe you right then i read comics I see nothing to look like Maevaris was hiding somthing, well i am sure he is hiding blood magic.

 

And I am surprised we agree on something. Krem was made so bad, and people wander why some think bioware forcing LGBT content.

We have 4 dialog options. 1 is I don't care. 3 why you dress like a man? are you women?...

And for asking simple question Iron bull attacks Inquisitor like he is some worse then darkspawn *******. Bioware forced as with Krem on the guilt trip.

Krem wasn't a bad character or "made so bad" in my opinion.

On one hand the reaction is appropriate because asking someone "why you dress/pass like a man" or "are you a woman" is pretty blunt, rude and depending on how you ask possibly even offensive. (No really, it is...)

But on the other hand because transgender is such a new topic/concept for so many people, especially "mainstream" people, there's going to be mistakes and it's better to educate people rather than guilt trip them. If they're educated on the subject and still act like an ass, guilt trip away.

In regards to questions and education, the real life trans community is pretty divided over it. Some people prefer that nobody asks them anything relating to the fact that they're trans and others are more than happy to help you educate on the topic, sometimes not being bothered by the questions no matter how rude or offensive they seem.



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I wasn't talking about Maevaris and Thorold specifically if that's what you're asking. I was just asking if that's possible in the lore.


We don't really know.

I guess if Kieran (with a Brosca or Aeducan daddy) turns out to be a mage, we'll have our answer. :whistle:

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Feedback: You asked good questions, and I hugely appreciated that you let them talk for long periods of time without interrupting (I feel like many video game interviewers love interrupting them just when they're about to say something we might not have heard before, and it was refreshing to avoid that). I'm sad I missed your tweet asking for questions people would like to hear answered, and I'm really looking forward to the rest of these!

But I agree with the YouTube commenters who noted that using a modded romance scene detracted from what you were talking about (unless of course future installments will include some discussion of modding and/or the changes to some of the romances during development), and TBH if adding the videos in the background in general is a significant part of the work you're putting in on these, I'd rather just have a static image and get to hear the rest of the interviews sooner. :)


Thank you so much for your kinds words.

 

The next ones will not likely have images, simply because it does take ALOT of time for us radio folk to do so. 

 

I heard some people complain about the sound quality, thoughts?


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It was my understanding that women are allowed in the army, just not in the same divisions as men.

 

However Krem is not a woman.. he's transman and somehow Tevinter army doesn't accept that and sees him as woman who lied about her sex.



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However Krem is not a woman.. he's transman and somehow Tevinter army doesn't accept that and sees him as woman who lied about her sex.

weird isn't it, a medieval setting being, well medieval
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weird isn't it, a medieval setting being, well medieval

 

Mostly it's weird how Krem is not seeing as man in army, but Maevaris is seen as woman in Magisterium. Or is she, I'm not sure I haven't read DA comics.



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Mostly it's weird how Krem is not seeing as man in army, but Maevaris is seen as woman in Magisterium. Or is she, I'm not sure I haven't read DA comics.

 

Mae dealt with controversy over it



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weird isn't it, a medieval setting being, well medieval


I prefer it when my fantasy settings are fantastical. B)

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Mostly it's weird how Krem is not seeing as man in army, but Maevaris is seen as woman in Magisterium. Or is she, I'm not sure I haven't read DA comics.

Based on other's post, WoT2 stated
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Though in the end She's a mage. Her status was different from Krem.
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Yeah, Mae had a sympathetic father, too... and lotsa money and influence and magical talent. That, coupled with being determined AF and making smart choices = a slightly easier go of it than Krem. Plus, she came out as trans when she was fifteen years old, so people have had time to Deal With It™.
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Yeah, Mae had a sympathetic father, too... and lotsa money and influence and magical talent. That, coupled with being determined AF and making smart choices = a slightly easier go of it than Krem. Plus, she came out as trans when she was fifteen years old, so people have had time to Deal With It™.

Do we know how old she is now?



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The only thing I feel is missing are a few hetero cis characters that don't fit into traditional gender roles.

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I think it says they never actually got married, but that doesn't really change your point. Question: Can a half-dwarf be a mage?

 

The Wikipedia refers to her as "and the widow of Varric Tethras' cousin Thorold" so I assumed marriage was the case.

 

Out of curiousity, what did you see my point as?
 



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The Wikipedia refers to her as "and the widow of Varric Tethras' cousin Thorold" so I assumed marriage was the case.

 

Out of curiousity, what did you see my point as?
 

Here's a preview of WoTv2. "Maevaris never officially married Thorold, but union was universally recognized in social circles as being a sincere and affectionate one." I thought your point was that she was challenging Tevinter society and their norms and culture etc.



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Here's a preview of WoTv2. "Maevaris never officially married Thorold, but union was universally recognized in social circles as being a sincere and affectionate one." I thought your point was that she was challenging Tevinter society and their norms and culture etc.


Imo in Tevinter attitude towards Mae is exactly the same as towards Dorian. Another Magister that doesnt continue the legacy. So long as Mae would have a wife and kids Tevinter folk could care less about how Mae behaves.

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Here's a preview of WoTv2. "Maevaris never officially married Thorold, but union was universally recognized in social circles as being a sincere and affectionate one." I thought your point was that she was challenging Tevinter society and their norms and culture etc.

 

Ah, I only saw the Wikipedia page of Maevaris, it must not have been updated yet. That was it, yes, I was worried I'd misformulated myself. I was also trying to offer alternative scenarios on how Maevaris could still fufill the legacy aspect of Tevinter culture but defy it by making her legacy non-biological.



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Imo in Tevinter attitude towards Mae is exactly the same as towards Dorian. Another Magister that doesnt continue the legacy. So long as Mae would have a wife and kids Tevinter folk could care less about how Mae behaves.

As a quick correction; Dorian is not a magister. Dorian's father, however, is.  


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Ah, I only saw the Wikipedia page of Maevaris, it must not have been updated yet. That was it, yes, I was worried I'd misformulated myself. I was also trying to offer alternative scenarios on how Maevaris could still fufill the legacy aspect of Tevinter culture but defy it by making her legacy non-biological.

That's alright. Glad I understood. Ah, yes, there was that too. An interesting thought, to be sure. I wonder how the magisterium would take a non-biological heir. They might not actually care.



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All this talk of Maevaris Tilani and now I've started to really want to meet her in person in-game. She sounds badass from what I've heard and seen, not to mention it'll be interesting to hear her perspective on the Imperium.



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See? here is the problem.

 

I don't see this as plausible plot for Dragon Age game, in past games we had bloody inter-racial bi-sexual foursome in a room with nugs and gardening equipment... all games in the series never told us Gays are something which is wrong in the dragon age universe.

with all of this openness of sexuality for the entire series suddenly Tevinter Imperium is homophobic? suddenly they have a breeding nazi regime? that's weak.

Not the point. Tevinter isn't homophobic, and Dorian's being gay, while exacerbating the problem, was never the main issue. The issue was Dorian being forced into an arranged marriage, and arranged marriages actually are a part of various cultures of Thedas, especially among the ruling classes. 

 

I do agree, however, that DA has become less open about sexuality in general - or rather, it has become less matter-of-factly open and everything is turned into an issue. In part I blame the blockbuster effect where the developers have to cave in to mainstream sensibilities in order to make enough sales. As a result, controversial elements of all kinds are cut or remain unrealized in the first place. You can see that effect all over the place. Having sex with one of your servants as in the HN origin of DAO? Can be viewed as exploitative, so it has to go, no matter that it was your choice how you viewed this encounter.



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Ah, I only saw the Wikipedia page of Maevaris, it must not have been updated yet. That was it, yes, I was worried I'd misformulated myself. I was also trying to offer alternative scenarios on how Maevaris could still fufill the legacy aspect of Tevinter culture but defy it by making her legacy non-biological.

Do we know what Maevaris like. maybe he like girls and legacy and having kids is not even a problem?



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Do we know what Maevaris like. maybe she like girls and legacy and having kids is not even a problem?

 

There is a panel in the comic where Varric encounters Maevaris in the Fade and she is with her husband being tended to by servants who are all men. This would suggest she is exclusively interested in the male sex.

 

(http://38.media.tumb...Ap5S1rylo32.jpg)


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I am hoping Maevaris becomes a companion in DA4 especially with its set in her homeland. It would be interesting to see her views on reform and how they compare to dorian's. With that being said does anyone think bioware should take a chance and make her a full romance? and by full i mean not like tallis and lace or Kelly chambers but the whole quest, interactions, sex/love scene, romance like other companions. If any game company would be able to pull off a romance with a transgender I think bioware can. As long as they avoid it coming off as either a fetish or same sex romance and present it like a straight male romance. And not focusing on the transgender aspect although it should be addressed in a way early so not only it not only lets the player know what they are getting into but to also approach it as any other heterosexual romance. But mostly focusing on Maevaris personality and maybe dealing with being a widow. I would rather that take the chance and make it happen then playing it to safe or else the issue will never get addressed
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I am hoping Maevaris becomes a companion in DA4 especially with its set in her homeland. It would be interesting to see her views on reform and how they compare to dorian's. With that being said does anyone think bioware should take a chance and make her a full romance? and by full i mean not like tallis and lace or Kelly chambers but the whole quest, interactions, sex/love scene, romance like other companions. If any game company would be able to pull off a romance with a transgender I think bioware can. As long as they avoid it coming off as either a fetish or same sex romance and present it like a straight male romance. And not focusing on the transgender aspect although it should be addressed in a way early so not only it not only lets the player know what they are getting into but to also approach it as any other heterosexual romance. But mostly focusing on Maevaris personality and maybe dealing with being a widow. I would rather that take the chance and make it happen then playing it to safe or else the issue will never get addressed

Maevaris would be interesting. Someone like Krem no. Krem is just boring. He have no personality at all.