Maevaris would be interesting. Someone like Krem no. Krem is just boring. He have no personality at all.
Since Krem is Iron Bull's companion and an NPC to the Inquisitor, that may be why. He'd probably be more explored in terms of personality if he was a companion to the Inquisitor instead or as well but seriously, Maevaris Tilani for DA:4 companion.
Since Krem is Iron Bull's companion and an NPC to the Inquisitor, that may be why. He'd probably be more explored in terms of personality if he was a companion to the Inquisitor instead or as well but seriously, Maevaris Tilani for DA:4 companion.
As a companion, certainly. As a romance, I'm not so sure. it would be extremely awkward, almost regardless of your own orientation or gender.
As a companion, certainly. As a romance, I'm not so sure. it would be extremely awkward, almost regardless of your own orientation or gender.
I'll admit I'm interested in her as a companion and not as a romance though it is not because of her transgenderism.
Someone will do transgender LI in some point so why not Bioware 
Since Krem is Iron Bull's companion and an NPC to the Inquisitor, that may be why. He'd probably be more explored in terms of personality if he was a companion to the Inquisitor instead or as well but seriously, Maevaris Tilani for DA:4 companion.
I think what people like in random NPCs is totally arbitrary and Bioware just needs to write and not care. I think Dagna and (especially) Scout Harding are incredibly dull and uninteresting, but they have a big fanbase. Whereas I think Sigrun is awesome, and people who like her think Dagna and Scout Harding are of a similar mold (at least as far as I can tell).
Someone will do transgender LI in some point so why not Bioware
I do not think anyone is anwhere near ready for this situation. Say it was someone like Mae - the transphobia (I was tricked/trapped/where is the kill option!?) would be so virulent and insane that - for the sake of our sanity and everyone else's - I think the option shouldn't be in at all.
Here's a preview of WoTv2. "Maevaris never officially married Thorold, but union was universally recognized in social circles as being a sincere and affectionate one." I thought your point was that she was challenging Tevinter society and their norms and culture etc.
*sigh* Yet another example of Bioware not supporting the marriage mindset. Instead of being married now they are just life partners. 
I am hoping Maevaris becomes a companion in DA4 especially with its set in her homeland. It would be interesting to see her views on reform and how they compare to dorian's. With that being said does anyone think bioware should take a chance and make her a full romance? and by full i mean not like tallis and lace or Kelly chambers but the whole quest, interactions, sex/love scene, romance like other companions. If any game company would be able to pull off a romance with a transgender I think bioware can. As long as they avoid it coming off as either a fetish or same sex romance and present it like a straight male romance. And not focusing on the transgender aspect although it should be addressed in a way early so not only it not only lets the player know what they are getting into but to also approach it as any other heterosexual romance. But mostly focusing on Maevaris personality and maybe dealing with being a widow. I would rather that take the chance and make it happen then playing it to safe or else the issue will never get addressed
No. I don't want her as a companion.
If they did, who would she be available to?
There is a panel in the comic where Varric encounters Maevaris in the Fade and she is with her husband being tended to by servants who are all men. This would suggest she is exclusively interested in the male sex.
Well Anders in awakening is most straight as you can get. Only talks about women and how nice Andrastes ass. Still have male lover.
*sigh* Yet another example of Bioware not supporting the marriage mindset. Instead of being married now they are just life partners.
I don't want to open this can of worms, but does the ceremony somehow matter all that much?
I don't think its because they are against marriage, I think its because the Imperial Chantry, like the Chantry, doesn't marry 2 people of the same gender, even if one of them is a trans woman.*sigh* Yet another example of Bioware not supporting the marriage mindset. Instead of being married now they are just life partners.
Well Anders in awakening is most straight as you can get. Only talks about women and how nice Andrastes ass. Still have male lover.
The Fade and she knew she was in the Fade, I believe, had her in a fantasy of her innermost wish; It showed her with her husband surrounded by male servants. I just do not see her as being interested in women based on what I've seen and read of her.
If we are being speculative then I should mention that Anders has a certain line directed towards Nathaniel Howe where it seems the voice actor says it flirtatous; "Not when I'm naked I don't" which could be used to imply his bisexuality without him being direct about it.
I do not think anyone is anwhere near ready for this situation. Say it was someone like Mae - the transphobia (I was tricked/trapped/where is the kill option!?) would be so virulent and insane that - for the sake of our sanity and everyone else's - I think the option shouldn't be in at all.
And there would be lot of posts about Bioware pandering minorities too 
However someone has to do change in some point, you can't always keep limiting characters, because there is people who will get angry. Like if Bioware had done that in the past there would be no LGBT+ characters either. Though maybe transgender LI would be safer to put into game like Skyrim which has tons of LI options anyways than starting with Bioware's games with more heavy take on romances.
No. I don't want her as a companion.
If they did, who would she be available to?
Most likely non-gay male PC.
No. I don't want her as a companion.
If they did, who would she be available to?
She needn't be a romance, she could just be a companion without a romanceable aspect to her character?
Though if she was, she'd likely be avaliable only to men since she seems to be heterosexual and only interested in them from what I've seen and read.
I don't want to open this can of worms, but does the ceremony somehow matter all that much?
Yes.
I don't think its because they are against marriage, I think its because the Imperial Chantry, like the Chantry, doesn't marry 2 people of the same gender, even if one of them is a trans woman.
They still retconned a marriage to just being life partners.
Most likely non-gay male PC.
To quote Jack O'Callahan: *dripping with sarcasm* "Yeah, that's gonna work."
She needn't be a romance, she could just be a companion without a romanceable aspect to her character?
Though if she was, she'd likely be avaliable only to men since she seems to be heterosexual and only interested in them from what I've seen and read.
To person I was replying to was talking about her being a romance, so I was asking who would she be an option for.
I, as non-gay male person, don't want to romance Mae, and I bet the majority of the non-gay male person doesn't want a trans woman.Most likely non-gay male PC.
I don't want to open this can of worms, but does the ceremony somehow matter all that much?
Why not? For people who desire or want long term monogamous marriage sort of relationships I would certainly say that kind of thing deserves representation.
To quote Jack O'Callahan: *dripping with sarcasm* "Yeah, that's gonna work."
I, as non-gay male person, don't want to romance Mae, and I bet the majority of the non-gay male person doesn't want a trans woman.
I'm not against her becoming a LI, but doesn't want her to take one spot and leave one cis woman only, if they add her and give us 2 cis woman I would even support her romance.
Well she's transwoman who likes men and hasn't shown intrest towards women so non-gay males are most likely who would have her as option 
Of cource there would be must noise about it though, it seems like that democraphic as whole is pretty strict on what kind of characters they want to romance and keep making noise if they don't get what they want... like with DAI ^^; But if she was romance I think she should as romance be as valuable as cis woman, wouldn't be that fair to make transgender romance as something extra or bonus like it'd be inferior, would beat some of the purpose.
Why not? For people who desire or want long term monogamous marriage sort of relationships I would certainly say that kind of thing deserves representation.
Why not? For people who desire or want long term monogamous marriage sort of relationships I would certainly say that kind of thing deserves representation.
We can't use the term representation when talking about marriage, Kefka.
It is "disrespectful to women and the LGBT community asking for representation" according to Allan Schumacher. 
I would like Mae as a companion, but I don't think that she should be a romance option. Just look at all the straight males complaining about Cassandra looking like a male (ha, lame). They will go insane with their only option being Mae, a transwoman.
Personally, I would like Calpernia as a option. She kind of reminds me of a badass mage version of Cassandra. I like her vision for a reborn Tevinter, especially since she once was a slave to these people. Very admirable.
True, it's unlikely that if Bioware did transgender LI s/he would be MtF who is into guys, it would be much safer for them to do FtM LI or MtF who likes girls. Though I don't think that will happen anytime soon either.
Those who complained were a loud minority, just see in the forum the amount of people who likes Cass and Josie.Well she's transwoman who likes men and hasn't shown intrest towards women so non-gay males are most likely who would have her as option
Of cource there would be must noise about it though, it seems like that democraphic as whole is pretty strict on what kind of characters they want to romance and keep making noise if they don't get what they want... like with DAI ^^; But if she was romance I think she should as romance be as valuable as cis woman, wouldn't be that fair to make transgender romance as something extra or bonus like it'd be inferior, would beat some of the purpose.
I dislike Allan too, but he didn't say that.We can't use the term representation when talking about marriage, Kefka.
It is "disrespectful to women and the LGBT community asking for representation" according to Allan Schumacher.
I dislike Allan too, but he didn't say that.
Yes he did.
I'm all for monogamy (tried it the other way; doesn't really work for me). It's in more the marriage part that I'm lost. I get the IRL argument for it (there are legal benefits and all) but does the ceremony itself really matter to people in characterising their relationship? Again, genuinely asking.
I think the official sanctioned marriage concept makes it sort of clear and binding that the people are committed to monogamy and the sort of each one for the other only kind of thing. In certain states it used to be a crime to commit adultery for example, which meant you had to be married. Life partners (which ok, be life partners if you want) doesn't really have any associations one way or another. You could be a life partner and still have people on the side here and there, etc, there's more of a feeling that you can get out of it.
Nowadays, well maybe it doesn't have quite the same connotations or impact, of course. But, still though, I think ceremony and such offers people who want to demonstrate to the world and themselves that they are invested in being monogamous and want to make that commitment a chance to do that. It's an opportunity for both people to show the other party that they mean what they say. Maybe (at least a little bit) the feeling that they can't get out of it is what they're seeking?
If there's some other world where some other form of connection (Life partner, whatever) carries the same weight and connotation it could be a feasible alternative to making that demonstration.
And plus hey the excuse to dress up and all the decorations are cool also. I went to an in-game wedding in FFXIV actually and it was pretty amazing, for all kinds of reasons, not nearly as dramatic or interesting if two people just one day go "hey, we're partners right?" and then someone else goes "yeah."
We can't use the term representation when talking about marriage, Kefka.
It is "disrespectful to women and the LGBT community asking for representation" according to Allan Schumacher.
What? Why?
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