Guest_Danielle100_*
What? You were married to a woman, which means you were attracted to women. Doesn't matter what sex you were. You were attracted to women. The same would go for Mae. She is attracted to males. Doesn't matter what sex she is. She is attracted to males (as far as we know anyway.)
...In all honesty, your post has confused me. Not the you being married. Just, the post in general.
"Monogamy = Romantically and sexually interested in one person." That's the definition I said was agreeing on as being essentially monogamy. So yes, I'm quite sure that I mean that definition.
Do you mean this as more of a personal definition because dictionary definition for it that I can find are basically; "marriage with only one person at a time" or "the practice of marrying only once during life". Then there are the Wikipedia which provides different categories of monogamy with the one you most likely are referring to as marital monogamy which is referred to as being; "marriages of only two people"
If this is your personal definition of monogamy then that is fine but there are other definitions and sorts of monogamy that do not match that definition.
Do you mean this as more of a personal definition because dictionary definition for it that I can find are basically; "marriage with only one person at a time" or "the practice of marrying only once during life". Then there are the Wikipedia which provides different categories of monogamy with the one you most likely are referring to as marital monogamy which is referred to as being; "marriages of only two people"
If this is your personal definition of monogamy then that is fine but there are other definitions and sorts of monogamy that do not match that definition.
There's probably a definition of monogamy that someone invented that allows for having multiple partners or some degree of outside sexual activity. I'm just saying romantically and sexually interested in only one person sounded pretty much perfect to me.
I think you are going to have a hard time fiding a monogamy partner then, for the majority of people I know they arent the same. Even if they are in a relationship they dont stop thinking other people are attractive, but thats doesnt mean they are going to have sex with other people behind their partner.Er I don't think so, if someone is interested sexually in others, that's not monogamy. Monogamy is the one to one thing, romantically and sexually interested in one person.
Maybe it's because I pretty much equate romantic and sexual interest? They are one and the same for me.
Oh really? Give it a shot.. it's got the Disney songs and stuff, very lame, but otherwise pretty interesting.
Well I'm inclined to ask, why not? (If you were a person in that situation)
In my case, it's because i made the choice not to, and a promise to my partner to stay monogamous in our relationship. It doesn't mean I haven't found other people interesting or attractive over the years, and if I wasn't already in a relationship and content with it I would certainly have pursued some of them. Telling one person that I will have them as my sole partner did not remove my ability to be attracted to other people.
Guest_Danielle100_*
What about for the sake of straight transwomen? Shouldn't they have a character that represents them?
I think you are going to have a hard time fiding a monogamy partner then, for the majority of people I know they arent the same. Even if they are in a relationship they dont stop thinking other people are attractive, but thats doesnt mean they are going to have sex with other people behind their partner.
I think in this case you should make a compromise.
Lol ok wasn't expecting relationship or dating advice out of that. Anyway of course the majority of people aren't that way, but fortunately I've found people that are pretty intensely committed to a serious relationship and simply don't have any extra sexual attraction.
In fact I've now met several people who claim to have never experienced sexual attraction in any context, so they might be more extreme than me who knows?
I think really you just proved my original point a long time ago which is that people really invested in monogamy for it's own sake (and not as an aspirational aspect) and all that are pretty extremely rare.
Wat.
How?
HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE A PS2?
*shakes head in shame*
IKR!
Shame
There's probably a definition of monogamy that someone invented that allows for having multiple partners or some degree of outside sexual activity. I'm just saying romantically and sexually interested in only one person sounded pretty much perfect to me.
Personally, I see the relationship monogamy definition as being two people in a relationship with the sexual aspect being optional since I've seen people where this is the case and they have no partners outside of the relationship, romantically or sexually.
So you know for a fact that she couldn't possibly have any attractions to women.
Repeat: (As far as we know.)
She's already established as having an attraction towards males, yes? Also, at no point in her backstory has she shown any attraction towards females, correct? So, logically, this says that she is straight. Now, BioWare may do something to her backstory, either build upon it; perhaps make her meet a women who she does fall in love with, or retcon it. If it's build upon it and present a scenario that changes it in a natural way, then fine. If it's a retcon, if it's done out of the blue, then no, I wouldn't be fine with it. Unless they do that though, for all intents and purposes, she is straight.
A straight man gets to romance women, a straight women gets to romance a man, A gay man gets to romance a gay man, a lesbian gets to romance a women, a bi person gets to be romanced by both genders
But a trans women should not be allowed to romance a trans woman. That would be just awesome, telling me I have to play a gender that caused me pain to romance a character representing someone like me.
Women don't represent men and men don't represent women. So your comparison is not accurate. Being attracted to just transsexuals is not an orientation as far as I know. Transsexuality is a gender identity, not a sexual identity. Thus the correct comparison would involve straight men representing straight men and straight women representing straight women, which due to the nature of heterosexuality makes them just as unavailable to the people they represent as Mae would be for straight transwomen.
Marriage and commitment. Marriage isn't for people who can only want one particular person ever. It's about making a choice, and if you don't have other options there isn't a choice being made, right? (There's also a performative aspect, but we can leave that aside for the moment.)
I suppose this means that marriage isn't for the "truly monogamous," in your terminology.
Personally, I see the relationship monogamy definition as being two people in a relationship with the sexual aspect being optional since I've seen people where this is the case and they have no partners outside of the relationship, romantically or sexually.
Were you the one I asked why don't they act on their desires? I'm curious if someone wants to answer that question. I guess some people view monogamy as an aspirational thing or something...
Marriage is comfortable from a financial point of view, also some things legally are allowed for the immediate family members only, like particular visits to hospital.
I believe that was amongst the reason why some people wanted same-sex marriage because otherwise they were denied the same legal rights. I also believe that in some places, one partner legally adopted the other or something to that degree to ensure specific sort of rights that they would otherwise be unable to have.
Women don't represent men and men don't represent women. So your comparison is not accurate. Being attracted to transsexuals is not an orientation as far as I know. Transsexuality is a gender identity, not a sexual identity.
You have no idea what she's even asking for here do you? What she's saying is that, as someone who has suffered from gender dysphoria, she does not want to be forced into playing a male character in order to romance a trans woman. Given what she has personally been through that is not an unreasonable request on her part. It would be traumatic for her and I suspect others who've shared her experiences (not all but others no doubt).
A straight man gets to romance women, a straight women gets to romance a man, A gay man gets to romance a gay man, a lesbian gets to romance a women, a bi person gets to be romanced by both genders
But a trans women should not be allowed to romance a trans woman. That would be just awesome, telling me I have to play a gender that caused me pain to romance a character representing someone like me.
But being a transgender person does not have any impact on what you are attracted to. You undergo becoming a transgender because you are not happy with the person on the outside. Not because you are attracted to a sex. Transgender is not a sexuality. Straight, gay and lesbian are sexualities. Transgender is not.
Who does Dorian represent or Sera, Josie and bull. They are all available to gay, lesbian and bi people. If a trans women is in the game and we are told that there is a wonderful representation of us but we're going to force you to play a gender that caused you extreme pain through your life, to be able to romance her I would be extremely disappointed and upset with BioWare.
No I don't think there is an issue with Cass being straight, I was disappointed yes but that's on me.
You have no idea what she's even asking for here do you? What she's saying is that, as someone who has suffered from gender dysphoria, she does not want to be forced into playing a male character in order to romance a trans woman. Given what she has personally been through that is not an unreasonable request on her part.
I know exactly what's she's asking for. She's asking for Bioware to change a character's sexuality to fit her criteria.
But being a transgender person does not have any impact on what you are attracted to. You undergo becoming a transgender because you are not happy with the person on the outside. Not because you are attracted to a sex. Transgender is not a sexuality. Straight, gay and lesbian are sexualities. Transgender is not.
I couldn't help but notice this conversation going on also, to be honest I spent probably 5 minutes of my whole life trying to understand Transgender and I've failed miserably. Does someone want to explain it clearly for us all?
Someone told me it was identifying with the opposite sex in some capacity, like you are male but really like the color pink or something. I was like well that would make like 40% of all males transgender (yes that many like pink I'd bet). Or like you are female and really are career minded or something, that would also make like every other female transgender... so... I'm sure it's more complicated than that.
I couldn't help but notice this conversation going on also, to be honest I spent probably 5 minutes of my whole life trying to understand Transgender and I've failed miserably. Does someone want to explain it clearly for us all?
Someone told me it was identifying with the opposite sex in some capacity, like you are male but really like the color pink or something. I was like well that would make like 40% of all males transgender (yes that many like pink I'd bet). I'm sure it's more complicated than that.
If you identify as being the opposite sex, and you do something about it, then you can consider yourself transgender. Identifying with, and being attracted to, are both completely different from one another however.
If you identify as being the opposite sex, and you do something about it, then you can consider yourself transgender. Identifying with, and being attracted to, are both completely different from one another however.
You literally identify as a male as a female (or vice versa)....
What does identify mean though? Like you see yourself as a male personality wise... or in terms of the societal sense... or like... literally you look in the mirror and think you are a male appearance wise?
Sorry it just sounds a little vague.
And what is "doing something about it" mean also as an addendum.
But being a transgender person does not have any impact on what you are attracted to. You undergo becoming a transgender because you are not happy with the person on the outside. Not because you are attracted to a sex. Transgender is not a sexuality. Straight, gay and lesbian are sexualities. Transgender is not.
Guest_Danielle100_*
But being a transgender person does not have any impact on what you are attracted to. You undergo becoming a transgender because you are not happy with the person on the outside. Not because you are attracted to a sex. Transgender is not a sexuality. Straight, gay and lesbian are sexualities. Transgender is not.
I couldn't help but notice this conversation going on also, to be honest I spent probably 5 minutes of my whole life trying to understand Transgender and I've failed miserably. Does someone want to explain it clearly for us all?
Someone told me it was identifying with the opposite sex in some capacity, like you are male but really like the color pink or something. I was like well that would make like 40% of all males transgender (yes that many like pink I'd bet). I'm sure it's more complicated than that.
I believe the shortest explaination I can give is; You feel like you were born in the wrong body like say, you were born as male but you feel like you are female. What you like of things, I believe, has little to do with it. I've known men who have interest or traits that are typically seen as feminine but are by no means transgendered; they just like these things.
It should be noted, however, that I am not transgendered so do not take what I say as a definitive or a perspective on the matter.
You have no idea what she's even asking for here do you? What she's saying is that, as someone who has suffered from gender dysphoria, she does not want to be forced into playing a male character in order to romance a trans woman. Given what she has personally been through that is not an unreasonable request on her part. It would be traumatic for her and I suspect others who've shared her experiences (not all but others no doubt).
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