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What? What other maps could you have in mind that can possibly be worse then Rio?

London, Condor, Giant.



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London, Condor, Giant.

 

Giant?  :huh:  :blink:  :o  :wacko:



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Giant?  :huh:  :blink:  :o  :wacko:

 

Too many noob Puggernaut on PC with preset Giant/Reaper/Platinum who doesn't even wait for the lobby to fill up before starting making me backfill all the time. And then they even camp the landing zone all the time.



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Giant

 

You'll be hearing from my lawyer soon.


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Too many noob Puggernaut on PC with preset Giant/Reaper/Platinum who doesn't even wait for the lobby to fill up before starting making me backfill all the time.

 

Well, that's not the Giant's fault  :P


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You'll be hearing from my lawyer soon.

 

Signed  :devil:



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London is decent design really.  It has spots for all types of kits and playstyles.  Same with Condor, Giant, Dagger, Ghost, heck most of the maps fall into this category, really.

 

The only two that stand out are Rio (CQC sucks) and the polar opposite of that map, Glacier (Sniping sucks).  At least a Sniper can take an ultra-light Hurricane as a sidearm and use that for Glacier (TC bonuses still apply), so even that is workable.

 

I don't even mind Hazard Dagger because that kind of stuff happens in real life too and when it does you deal with it.  What I do mind is the Hazard White making Marksman or Krogan Rage like staring into the sun.  Those power effects really needed to be toned down a bit, because activating an ability shouldn't be detrimental.



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Well, that's not the Giant's fault  :P

 

Yeah it wasn't FB White's fault either when literally every lobby was White/Geth/Gold back in the day, but I remember everyone hating it...



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You'll be hearing from my lawyer soon.

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Yeah it wasn't FB White's fault either when literally every lobby was White/Geth/Gold back in the day, but I remember everyone hating it...

 

Hating FBW GETH. GETH preset. Not the map itself. And it was old FBW. FBW is like the best map out there. Suits mostly everyone. 


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Condor. 

 

I didn't think that needed an answer, but yeah, Condor, Hazard Dagger, Hazard White...

 

 

Condor gets labeled by many as the 'worst' mainly because of bugs like false cover and poor ammo drop rate. Atleast condor is decent once you overlook the bugs.

 

Erm... Let me think about it...

 

Yeah, no. It sucks.

 

Rio sucks too, but a bit less for me.



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FBW is like the best map out there. Suits mostly everyone. 

 

It's pretty astonishing how a little change could turn it from my most hate map into my most loved one, by far. The guy who did that deserves a raise.


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Too many noob Puggernaut on PC with preset Giant/Reaper/Platinum who doesn't even wait for the lobby to fill up before starting making me backfill all the time. And then they even camp the landing zone all the time.

That doesnt make it a bad map to play, only your disdain for landing in it more times than you wish while pugging


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Erm... Let me think about it...

 

Yeah, no. It sucks.

 

Rio sucks too, but a bit less for me.

What are the reasons you hate condor, besides bad cover and poor ammo drop rate?



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Hating FBW GETH. GETH preset. Not the map itself.

Speak for yourself, I hated both after playing it all the time. I guess you never grew tired of something in your whole life...



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What are the reasons you hate condor, besides bad cover and poor ammo drop rate?

 

Invisible enemies, invisible teammates, enemies that can't be damaged, not being able to get into cover, ammo box locations, only 1 grenade, shitty hacks, shitty caps. 


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What I do mind is the Hazard White making Marksman or Krogan Rage like staring into the sun.  Those power effects really needed to be toned down a bit, because activating an ability shouldn't be detrimental.

Start a petition for removal of said effects in NME. Then BW can wipe their ass with that and give everyone Geth Scanner blind-o-vision!


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Condor.


kek

I soloed Condor without Scanner and Cyclonic, I'm not touching Rio with a tenfoot pole.

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What are the reasons you hate condor, besides bad cover and poor ammo drop rate?

 

Bad overall design and cover. I'm not talking about false cover - I'm talking about the fact that most of the spawns in that map cannot be approached in a way that offer some decent form of soft cover, period. This, together with the overall dimension of the map, ends up hitting CQC play very hard, making it much harder and less fun than on a "closer" map. It also ends up turning any faction with high, quick ranged firepower into a chore to play against. Talking Geth and Cerberus. Collectors only to a certain extent.

 

I get that it's supposed to be a sniper's paradise, both for you and the enemy. It's just that since I'm in CQC even when I snipe, it doesn't really go along with my tastes. You could argue that it's just me, but I grew up like that as a player because the vast majority of the maps actually encourage that kind of behaviour. So if you only add 2-3 maps that punish it, people will probably end up disliking them because they are mostly going to adopt a playstyle that doesn't go well there.

 

Also bugs, but I guess that's included in the reasons you provided?

The overall atmosphere is very good, though. Would be great as a SP map. In MP though, I ain't gonna look at the sky...



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Speak for yourself, I hated both after playing it all the time. I guess you never grew tired of something in your whole life...

 

Haha. Actually I get bored really quickly. 



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kek

I soloed Condor without Scanner and Cyclonic, I'm not touching Rio with a tenfoot pole.

 

I soloed Plat with only a Phaeston on Condor. So what?  :P


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That doesnt make it a bad map to play, only your disdain for landing in it more times than you wish while pugging

Objectively speaking only Condor sucks, so I guess this thread is irrelevant then.



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Lolz at another I hate YOU MAP! turns into another Most hated Maps after being discussed ad nauseam in multiple threads before



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I soloed Plat with only a Phaeston on Condor. So what?  :P


Why do you hate yourself so much? :(
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Why do you hate yourself so much? :(

 

It was very stupid, I agree.  :lol: