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#51
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I soloed Plat with only a Phaeston on Condor. So what?  :P

 

Lol, I remember that. You masochist :lol:


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Just going to add that I just dropped into a game where ammo boxes did not give me any ammo, nor did Clip Packs.  It was on Rio.



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Just going to add that I just dropped into a game where ammo boxes did not give me any ammo, nor did Clip Packs.  It was on Rio.

 

I believe all maps have a chance to get glitched while joining (don't know if latency has anything to do with that), but Condor has by far the highest. 

 

Rio Collectars has the highest chance of freezing the peastree as far as I know.  :rolleyes:



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Just going to add that I just dropped into a game where ammo boxes did not give me any ammo, nor did Clip Packs.  It was on Rio.

I get that bug on about 75% of all the modded lobbies I run into.

 

Dunno why, happens on various maps. Only husk modes I've been able to do were randomly pugged on Algae's host iirc.



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I like Rio when the rest of the team isn't composed of a mix of puggernauts and lamer spammers sitting in the box of shame. Of course, in pretty much every game I will have either grenades or a  weapon with good range, and when I don't I'm using an AM3. Never have found it particularly ill suited to weapons based CQB kits. Only melee is difficult to use, but the cat and mouse game you have to play with such kits is fun in an of itself for me, if very time consuming.

Escort and pizza objectives can get annoying in places because they force you to actually stand on the walkways, and the ralings don't provide any cover, but I like how it actually punishes bad teams who can't shoot their way out of a wet paper bag. Nothing is quite as satisfying as seeing box humping retards fail on an objective wave.


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Rio is Grenade Heaven..Just hate the box campers..Other than sometime's you get some brutal objectives..I have no problem with that map... I know I am going to Hell because I like to shoot the Jesus statue with missles and Javelin  ..I think I got a head shot on him a few times.



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Wow you should just retire if everything about the game is broken for you, if youre doing U/U/G-P and get Rio, and still QQ, and this if from someone who I assume is a better than avg player knows all the game mechanics and advises other new players as to how to play the game, yet you dont know how to play Rio?

 

amazing

 

Wow, you're pretty extreme.  :mellow:



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Would be great as a SP map.

"Would"?



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"Would"?

 

Well, it's been forever since I last played SP, but I don't recall fighting on Condor?



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Well, it's been forever since I last played SP, but I don't recall fighting on Condor?

 

You go there to find the red Garrus that tells the blue Garrus to join you


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Well, it's been forever since I last played SP, but I don't recall fighting on Condor?

Well...Condor is similar in its layout to the Priority: Palaven mission in ME3. The one where you meet up with Garrus and rescue Victus.

 

Edit: ninja'd


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#62
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Ah yeah, I get that, but it's not exactly that map, is it? Regardless, yeah, the atmosphere is great for the SP :)



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Ah yeah, I get that, but it's not exactly that map, is it? Regardless, yeah, the atmosphere is great for the SP :)

 

All the MP maps are adaptions from the SP missions. Palaven was larger, of course... had a few gates, a lot more Turians and I think the first Brutes of the game.



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All the MP maps are adaptions from the SP missions. Palaven was larger, of course... had a few gates, a lot more Turians and I think the first Brutes of the game.

 

Yeah, the one you got all scared to fight until you realized you were up against the dumbest enemy in the game :lol:



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Try Condor Platinum against Geth. At least on RIo you can hide behind crates.

 

Who needs boring old crates to hide behind when you have super awesomo tank Makos to hide behind.

 

And what makes Rio against Geth on Plat harder then lets say something like Jade? At least you have more escape routes on Condor VS Jade. And that right there makes Condor a heck of a lot easier then something like Jade. But difficulty of a maps shouldn't be the main focus when discussing quality of maps anyway.
 
 

London is decent design really.  It has spots for all types of kits and playstyles.  Same with Condor, Giant, Dagger, Ghost, heck most of the maps fall into this category, really.

 

The only two that stand out are Rio (CQC sucks) and the polar opposite of that map, Glacier (Sniping sucks).  At least a Sniper can take an ultra-light Hurricane as a sidearm and use that for Glacier (TC bonuses still apply), so even that is workable.

 

I don't even mind Hazard Dagger because that kind of stuff happens in real life too and when it does you deal with it.  What I do mind is the Hazard White making Marksman or Krogan Rage like staring into the sun.  Those power effects really needed to be toned down a bit, because activating an ability shouldn't be detrimental.

 

What?! Who says Glacier is bad for Sniping? It's super awesom-o!

 

And it's not exactly that close quarter kits suck on Rio because not enough cover/too open (one side of the map has plenty of cover). It's the lousy spawn points that really mess everything up.



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Invisible enemies, invisible teammates, enemies that can't be damaged, not being able to get into cover, ammo box locations, only 1 grenade, shitty hacks, shitty caps. 

 

If you're getting these issues on Condor, trust me. You never wanted to play this map since the host is hosting from the moon the begin with (ditto goes for any other map). So lets try this again. When the map works as intended, how do you honestly feel about? Hint; Think level shape, spawn points, synergy with kits/setups, when playing with poor pugs or super BSNers, replayability, etc.



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I soloed Plat with only a Phaeston on Condor. So what?  :P

Did u record it? If so I'd like to see

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Did u record it? If so I'd like to see

 

I remember him posting on bsn... Might have just been some screens, but I don't think so.



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Bad overall design and cover. I'm not talking about false cover - I'm talking about the fact that most of the spawns in that map cannot be approached in a way that offer some decent form of soft cover, period. This, together with the overall dimension of the map, ends up hitting CQC play very hard, making it much harder and less fun than on a "closer" map. It also ends up turning any faction with high, quick ranged firepower into a chore to play against. Talking Geth and Cerberus. Collectors only to a certain extent.

 

I get that it's supposed to be a sniper's paradise, both for you and the enemy. It's just that since I'm in CQC even when I snipe, it doesn't really go along with my tastes. You could argue that it's just me, but I grew up like that as a player because the vast majority of the maps actually encourage that kind of behaviour. So if you only add 2-3 maps that punish it, people will probably end up disliking them because they are mostly going to adopt a playstyle that doesn't go well there.

 

Also bugs, but I guess that's included in the reasons you provided?

The overall atmosphere is very good, though. Would be great as a SP map. In MP though, I ain't gonna look at the sky...

 

lol at the fact that you hate Condor because it slows you down on epeen spawn nuking/nading/or whatever other means of chaos ways.  :lol: For me that would be a good thing if Condor had such protected spawns for a change.



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Rio only sucks if you dare to venture as an off host vanguard and rio manages to come up.



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Rio only sucks if you dare to venture out of the box

Fixed


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Wow you should just retire if everything about the game is broken for you, if youre doing U/U/G-P and get Rio, and still QQ, and this if from someone who I assume is a better than avg player knows all the game mechanics and advises other new players as to how to play the game, yet you dont know how to play Rio?

 

amazing



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Rio is not that bad playing in 60fps.



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lol at the fact that you hate Condor because it slows you down on epeen spawn nuking/nading/or whatever other means of chaos ways.  :lol: For me that would be a good thing if Condor had such protected spawns for a change.

 

Not everyone's as obsessed as you are, you know?