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[vertigomez]

Twins threesome, anyone?
 

Spoiler

I lol'd.

Oh sweet, sweet Bethany...

Pfffft, Carver was hotter.

[KainD]

 

Oh sweet, sweet Bethany...

 

 

Pfffft, Carver was hotter.

 

Both should've been a romance option. 

 

 

Now about polyamory.. I'm too selfish for that so - no. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Pfffft, Carver was hotter.

No he wasn't.

He's attractive but Bethany is ethereal.

[vertigomez]

No he wasn't.
He's attractive but Bethany is ethereal.

Bethany is ogre chow.

[Master Warder Z_]

Bethany is ogre chow.

You'd seriously kill your little sister?!

[vertigomez]

You'd seriously kill your little sister?!

Hawke's little sister.

[Shadow Quickpaw]

Jade Empire did this, if you played your cards right. Granted there's no threesome scene or anything, but the implication is there for Dawn Star and Silk Fox.

[Dean_the_Young]

Jade Empire had a threesome at the romantic climax. There never was a polyamory plotline.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Didn't Dragon Age: Origins actually have this? I remember Leliana and Morrigan could both be romanced at the same time, even having a few dialogues about the Warden romancing both.

 

(playing a male Warden romancing both Morrigan and Leliana)

 

Morrigan: I am not fond of sharing. You should know this.

Leliana: I haven't asked to borrow anything of yours.

Morrigan: Nor would I lend it if asked. You would be best to desist and find your own.

Leliana: Find my own what?

Morrigan: (sigh) This facade of yours is unconvincing. If 'tis a competition you wish, a competition you shall have.

Leliana: You wild folk are very odd. And possessive.

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(playing a male Warden romancing both Morrigan and Leliana)

 

Morrigan: I see you yet continue to be where you are not welcomed.

Leliana: Are you jealous? Is that what this is about? Because I don't think it's for you to decide what I should or should not do.

Morrigan: Oh, you may continue on as you have. I am merely informing you that you will suffer the consequences.

Leliana: You forget, Morrigan, I am not without my own pointy ends, as well. Do not make promises you cannot keep.

Morrigan: I always keep my promises.

Leliana: Talk is cheap.

Morrigan: And this from a bard?

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(playing a male Warden romancing both Morrigan and Leliana)

 

Morrigan: You can't possibly think he would prefer you?

Leliana: Funnily I was about to say the same thing to you.

Morrigan: Oh, and what exactly is it you believe you have to offer?

Leliana: I don't know, but if we are together, it will be because, he wants me and he loves me, these things are real.

Morrigan: And yet love grows rotten on the vine so quickly. A sour fruit that offers only a memory of sweetness. What is it worth, truly?

Leliana: Everything. Only a dried-up shell of a person would not know that.

Morrigan: We shall see.

 

(if the Warden has slept w/ Morrigan, but not Leliana there is a little change in the conversation)

 

Morrigan: "You can't possibly think he would prefer you?"

Leliana: "Funnily I was about to say the same thing, to you."

Morrigan: "And yet he and I have made love. Did you know this?"

Leliana: "I... suspected as much. All the better, as he will soon discover you have nothing else to offer."

Morrigan: "The world of flesh is one of many weird, varied delights. What do you think that he will do when he discovers that you offer only frigid incompetence?"

Leliana: "If we reach that point...if we do... it will be because we love each other."

Morrigan: "And yet love grows rotten on the vine so quickly. A sour fruit that offers only a memory of sweetness. What is it worth, truly?"

Leliana: "Everything. Only a dried-up shell of a person would not know that."

Morrigan: "We shall see."

________

 

Morrigan: The way you look at him so intently, so hungrily... one would think you have never seen a man before.

Leliana: Where I look is not your concern.

Morrigan: True enough. There is no way I can deny you this... but why would he choose you, when he could have me?

Leliana: You're confident for a woman raised in a swamp, far from anything remotely resembling civilization.

Morrigan: And maybe that is my appeal? A woman like you, why, he could find in any city in Thedas. You think you are cultured? Worldly?

Morrigan: Powdered, perfumed, you ooze elegance, but what man wants a woman who lies limp beneath him, frozen in place by the thought that she might ruin her hair?

Leliana: So you're saying you're wild and uninhibited? I suppose he must like your shrieking, you sound like a genlock being murdered—a sweet, sweet sound to a Grey Warden.

Leliana: You should try a little harder next time he takes you. I don't think they heard you in the Anderfels.

Morrigan: Tsk, tsk, Leliana. Watch your jealousy, or you'll give yourself wrinkles.

Leliana: Get away from me, or I shall have to take drastic measures.

Morrigan: Resorting to violence. And here I thought you were civilized.

[Dean_the_Young]

Polyamory is a multi-way relationship between the involved parties, not two-timing. Unless you think that the catfights were UST and that Lelianna and Morrigan were secretly snogging and having threesomes with the Warden, it wouldn't apply.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Polyamory is a multi-way relationship between the involved parties, not two-timing. Unless you think that the catfights were UST and that Lelianna and Morrigan were secretly snogging and having threesomes with the Warden, it wouldn't apply.

The definition of polyamory is: the philosophy or state of being in love or romantically involved with more than one person at the same time.

 

Nowhere does it say all parties have to be involved with all the other parties. 

[vertigomez]

Polyamory is a multi-way relationship between the involved parties, not two-timing. Unless you think that the catfights were UST and that Lelianna and Morrigan were secretly snogging and having threesomes with the Warden, it wouldn't apply.

Yeah, this^. Jealousy and hurt feelings and going behind people's backs is not something I'm even a little bit interested in.

A fulfilling, consensual romantic relationship between more than two parties, however? Yes please.

[Dean_the_Young]

The definition of polyamory is: the philosophy or state of being in love or romantically involved with more than one person at the same time.

 

Nowhere does it say all parties have to be involved with all the other parties. 

 

And marriage (used to be/still is someplaces) defined as a union of man and woman- but a simplistic definition of one specific derivation doesn't necessarily capture cultural context.

 

The use of polyamory in this thread is pretty blatantly about everyone involved being committed in a multi-lateral relationship, rather than a harem-scenario of one central relationship lead

[KaiserShep]

Bethany is ogre chow.

 

Ridonkulous! I distinctly remember Carver charging at the ogre with his giant sword.

[vertigomez]

Ridonkulous! I distinctly remember Carver charging at the ogre with his giant sword.

Schrödinger's corpse?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

And marriage (used to be/still is someplaces) defined as a union of man and woman- but a simplistic definition of one specific derivation doesn't necessarily capture cultural context.

 

The use of polyamory in this thread is pretty blatantly about everyone involved being committed in a multi-lateral relationship, rather than a harem-scenario of one central relationship lead

And like how marriage and sexualities have different terms to set the variations apart, polyamory would need a term to set what you want it to be apart from the definition of the overall term. Using polyamory by itself while saying a type of it isn't it doesn't make sense. That'd be like saying heterosexuality isn't a sexuality despite fitting the definition of the term sexuality. 

[Dean_the_Young]

And like how marriage and sexualities have different terms to set the variations apart, polyamory would need a term to set what you want it to be apart from the definition of the overall term. Using polyamory by itself while saying a type of it isn't it doesn't make sense. That'd be like saying heterosexuality isn't a sexuality despite fitting the definition of the term sexuality. 

 

Your diction convenience doesn't necessitate a need when context is sufficient.

 

We have plenty of words that can use the same word in different contexts with different meanings, and in varying degrees of scope and scale. We  can also, and this is important, use the context in which the words are being used to understand the specific meaning involved- which is rather important with something like polyamory, which is more than just a word with a one-line definition but also refers to a wide range of philosophical approaches to love and relationships, some of which are explicitly based on an understanding of multi-lateral relationships.

 

Which, considering the nature of the thread and previous discussion, is what we're talking about.

 

A cat is a cat is a cat, but if the kind of cat we're talking about is a big cat that we don't have a good word for, then bringing up small house cats isn't particularly helpful even if they are, yes, cats by definition. They aren't the kind of cats we're talking about.

[Lady Artifice]

The definition of polyamory is: the philosophy or state of being in love or romantically involved with more than one person at the same time.

Nowhere does it say all parties have to be involved with all the other parties.

But we could try to be understanding of the spirit of Gomez's request, right? In context.

The Morrigan and Leliana love triangle was tense and antagonistic, and that's not what this thread is about.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

We have plenty of words that can use the same word in different contexts with different meanings, and in varying degrees of scope and scale. We  can also, and this is important, use the context in which the words are being used to understand the specific meaning involved- which is rather important with something like polyamory, which is more than just a word with a one-line definition but also refers to a wide range of philosophical approaches to love and relationships, some of which are explicitly based on an understanding of multi-lateral relationships.

So...I was right then about DAO having a variant on this polyamory type of relationship. As you said, there is a broad range of subtypes of the term, which I said in my last post. 

 

 

But we could try to be understanding of the spirit of Gomez's request, right? In context.

The Morrigan and Leliana love triangle was tense and antagonistic, and that's not what this thread is about.

I know the OP wants something different. 

 

I was just asking if what happened with the Warden romancing both Morrigan and Leliana is a polyamorous relationship, since it involves multiple relationships occurring simultaneously.

[vertigomez]

I was just asking if what happened with the Warden romancing both Morrigan and Leliana is a polyamorous relationship, since it involves multiple relationships occurring simultaneously.

Just to clarify: the Leliana/Morrigan love triangle is not polyamory. It's the Warden being a huge dick.

[Dean_the_Young]

So...I was right then about DAO having a variant on this polyamory type of relationship. As you said, there is a broad range of subtypes of the term, which I said in my last post. 

 

You were also wrong, and thus corrected, on the variant of polyamory being discussed.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Just to clarify: the Leliana/Morrigan love triangle is not polyamory. It's the Warden being a huge dick.

No, it is. The Warden is in love or romantically involved with more than one person at the same time. That is the definition of polyamory.

It is also being a huge dick yes, but that doesn't mean it isn't polyamory. 

 

You were also wrong, and thus corrected, on the variant of polyamory being discussed.

I never said that the one in DAO is what the OP wanted. I was just curious if it was one, which I learned it is. 

[Tishina]

So...I was right then about DAO having a variant on this polyamory type of relationship. As you said, there is a broad range of subtypes of the term, which I said in my last post. 

 

 

I know the OP wants something different. 

 

I was just asking if what happened with the Warden romancing both Morrigan and Leliana is a polyamorous relationship, since it involves multiple relationships occurring simultaneously.

Dunno where you got the definition, but cheating is not polyamory.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Dunno where you got the definition, but cheating is not polyamory.

Yes it is. It is being in love or romantically involved with more than one person at the same time.

[Dean_the_Young]

I never said that the one in DAO is what the OP wanted. I was just curious if it was one, which I learned it is. 

 

 

And no one said you did. You did, however, ask if DAO had 'this'. It didn't, because 'this' in the context of the thread is 'polyamory in the form of an open multi-way relationship as set out by the OP and used in the context thread,' not 'polyamory as defined by the selective definition Hanako Ikezawa wishes to use irregardless of all other possible definitions and understandings of the concept.'

 

As a mathematician answer goes, you are correct. As a functional answer goes, you are wrong.