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Duelist - does Isabella make other DW classes obsolete with her hats?


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jamdjedi

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I premise by saying I love the Assasin and particularly the Alchemist. But after unlocking Isabella and her ample-skill set -she simply blows the other two classes out of the water as if she was overtaking a laden merchant ship!
I just got the dragon dagger, along with the offhand weapon that makes things go boom she is -like they say in Baaaston-retaaaaded.
Damage is insane and she doesn't have to be up close todo sId damage, unless you're stacking elusive.

How can we bring Assasin and Alchemist up to near her level? Not style as she is alone on that summit of Fashion

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BraveLToaster

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Assassin still edges her out in single target damage, but Isabella handles groups better and is more survivable.

 

Also, making the dragon explode is my favorite thing ever.



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Theghostof_timmy

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This again...



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F_e_princess

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I tried pan the camera all the way down today when she was climbing a ladder...  


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This again...



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She can't stealth, she can't pick enemies off from the back without them turning to her. She's not the only rogue that can make things explode or cause hidden blades to tear things up. She just have nice survival abilities with the coins, and can aid the team with the 10% damage to marked enemies in a area.



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Drasca

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She can't stealth, she can't pick enemies off from the back without them turning to her.

 

Stealth sucks. I have no trouble bolting / broadsiding everything at range. Whether they 'turn toward me' is irrelevant, since they're dead shortly after.



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Robbiesan

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I also like to view various Isabela angles.  she hot.



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Dragkonias

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This reminds me of ME3MP and how people would complain about the newer classes in that.

 

The entire time I'm wondering if you do well with one class...does it really matter if you can do more well with another?



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TheThirdRace

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She can't stealth, she can't pick enemies off from the back without them turning to her. She's not the only rogue that can make things explode or cause hidden blades to tear things up. She just have nice survival abilities with the coins, and can aid the team with the 10% damage to marked enemies in a area.


No I think you don't understand what OP is saying. With the right gear and skills, Isabella is the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse.

I'll give you a small example. We got in a group of 4, all of us have great gear and are able to steamroll Perilous using only 3 characters (and the clearing time is insane), so we don't care about leveling up the fourth player when needed. So for 1 game 1 of our teammate switched to Isabella. Care to guess how many kills he got in an already overpowered party? 186 kills. Let that sink for a minute... 1 8 6 KILLS!!!!

That means the 3 overpowered teammates weren't even able to steal kills from Isabella... Now, if you can seriously tell me she's just "good" and not simply amazing well I guess you believe the Earth is flat and there's no reason trying to explain any further...

Edit: Before anyone thinks I'm complaining, I'm not. I love playing Isabella. I just find it hilarious people were asking for the Arcane Warrior to be nerfed when a lot of them were dying like crazy on Routine... Then you see Isabella blow the AW out of the water and wonder why were they trying to nerf something that wasn't as good. Oh and Virtuoso is just as good as Isabella. The amount of craziness you can get from him is insane!!! I really love the new characters, except Avvar, but then I haven't played him enough yet...
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Dragkonias

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It is funny how DAMP is slowly following the progression that ME3MP did.

 

I remember when ME3MP first started Asari Adept/Carnifex was consider the OP combo.

 

And well...anyone who played from day one knows how that ended up looking. 

 

And if anything, I welcome it, keeps things fresh. 


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Care to guess how many kills he got in an already overpowered party? 186 kills. Let that sink for a minute... 1 8 6 KILLS!!!!

 

186 kills? Just another day for me XD but of course I'm OP.  .  . I tend to steal kills even from audacity Isabellas on Avvar (hint she can't catch up to Furious Blows all the time). At the same time, there aren't any Avvar around that steal too many kills from me on Isabella...

 

Oh well. EVERYTHING DIES! EVERYTHING! Let me go get carried so my allies can get some kills in finally-- and then get killsteal'ed from each other.

 

Edit: Third and I aren't in the same teams anymore.



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Pee Jae

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186 kills? Just another day for me XD but of course I'm OP.  .  . I tend to steal kills even from audacity Isabellas on Avvar (hint she can't catch up to Furious Blows all the time). At the same time, there aren't any Avvar around that steal too many kills from me on Isabella...

 

Oh well. EVERYTHING DIES! EVERYTHING! Let me go get carried so my allies can get some kills in finally-- and then get killsteal'ed from each other.

 

Edit: Third and I aren't in the same teams anymore.

 

That Audacity tip is/was insane. Been meaning to thank you for that.  :D

 

Also, in before "balance change."  :ph34r:


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Reptillius

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I don't get that many kills because I'm too busy staring at Isabella's assets... I freely admit it.


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I don't get that many kills because I'm too busy staring at Isabella's assets... I freely admit it.

Yeah, but I don't think this is the right way to balance her, when it only works for people that are attracted to women. ^^

 

On the topic: I think the Alchemist is still fine with her mass marbles, but the Assassin is really in trouble.



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Both the Assassin and the Alchemist have poor XP output and dull voice acting. It wasn't too hard to make them obsolete.


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The assasin is more challenging to play then duelist for sure.  Toughest thing about duelist is trying to control swashbuckle to hit 4 different mobs