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#26
TheThirdRace

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That attack is completely avoidable. I don't think that attack should be nerfed, but that's up to BW.


No matter if the guy can avoid it or not, sometimes it's just getting out of hand. The other day I got it for 4000 damage by an Archer for crying out loud! Sure, he got me from flanking and got a crit, but come on! I wasn't even attacking it, his target decided to hide himself behind me and I got hit in the crossfire... The good news is I survived, I couldn't believe it after seeing such a number. I must say the 4k Barrier helped a lot...

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I really wish you would change your attitude on the forums from l2p noob to helpful.  It would only benefit the community and people's willingness to accept help from you.

 

LOL The only thing you're doing here are accusations, whereas I'm actually providing real L2P with options on how to address the problem dying from something seemingly random and overwhelming. Hint: It's not.

 

If you want to contribute something useful, by all means please do.



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No matter if the guy can avoid it or not, sometimes it's just getting out of hand. The other day I got it for 4000 damage by an Archer for crying out loud! Sure, he got me from flanking and got a crit, but come on! I wasn't even attacking it, his target decided to hide himself behind me and I got hit in the crossfire... The good news is I survived, I couldn't believe it after seeing such a number. I must say the 4k Barrier helped a lot...

 

I really really want to see a picture of that. Not because I don't believe you, but so I can see it for myself and :lol:



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I find that if you use an ability on an archer (ex dragon rage), and you can't kill the said archer, then it seems to always trigger them to step back and shoot for high damage.

 

I think its best to only use dragon rage on (non-cc'ed) archers if you know are sure it will kill.


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LOL The only thing you're doing here are accusations, whereas I'm actually providing real L2P with options on how to address the problem dying from something seemingly random and overwhelming. Hint: It's not.

 

If you want to contribute something useful, by all means please do.

 

unfortunately, this is exactly how I expected you to respond.  You are no different than those that have come before you and there will be others just like you going forward


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Gotta love full draw. Lovely when it's on your side, not so much on the other.

Shame we don't have gating anymore.
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unfortunately, this is exactly how I expected you to respond.  You are no different than those that have come before you and there will be others just like you going forward

 

Contribute something useful. Until, to the ignore list you go!



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HeroicMass

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Contribute something useful. Until, to the ignore list you go!

 

anyone that cannot accept criticism and face themselves in the mirror can block me any day.  

 

also, noticed you edited your coalesced to 6 glitch your turian sentinel.  Makes one wonder what you have done in this game to achieve your stats.  


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ALTBOULI

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Contribute something useful. Until, to the ignore list you go!

I can confidently say that Heroic has contributed far more than you ever have and does so in a polite way

anyone that cannot accept criticism and face themselves in the mirror can block me any day.  
 
also, noticed you edited your coalesced to 6 glitch your turian sentinel.  Makes one wonder what you have done in this game to achieve your stats.

Dont bother with a cheater like him, your better than that
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Just to show how ridiculous the archer is, here's a video of me getting hit for 1800 damage from 1 archer on perilous.

 

Why is it that I can only just survive an assassins sync move but I can't survive 1 arrow from a red templar archer.

 

Biowar pls.

 

"VIDEO HERE"

 

 

It was entirely 1000% your fault, you didn't kill him and let him walk away that a Sure kill for archer.

 

I said it before, "Don't attack an archer if you don't kill it in 3 hits, if they move away and turn back you are kissing the floor"


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HeroicMass

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Everyone here knows the mechanics of this enemy attack. The question tht has never been answered from bioware is whether or not this amount of damage is intended.
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I know, this is my point exactly. I'm talking specifically about the damage done, I deserved to get hit by that move and I don't care, It's a Saturday night and I'm chilling. Funny how critical some people are just because you don't play like them. I've barely used the reaver until recently.
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is that why you 6 glitched all of your charaters in Mass Effect?  Your profile is public.

 

LOL, not only does Drasca take games vs AI too seriously, he cheats against them too! 

 

Oh and for the record, HeroicMass has contributed far more to this community than Drasca could ever hope to do.


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I know, this is my point exactly. I'm talking specifically about the damage done, I deserved to get hit by that move and I don't care, It's a Saturday night and I'm chilling. Funny how critical some people are just because you don't play like them. I've barely used the reaver until recently.

 

Dont worry i get killed like that like 8-10 times a day, to me is like their special skill.

 

Also wasn't their damage reduce on this weekend's update?



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Dont worry i get killed like that like 8-10 times a day, to me is like their special skill.

 

Also wasn't their damage reduce on this weekend's update?

 

Well that's what I thought but it can't be for that move.



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The thing I hate is that the archer special attacks have such short animations, and hit obscenely hard.

 

I would rather the step back shot did a lot less damage, but put you to sleep or stunned you than just dealing ohko level damage, given it is a fast and defensive move.

 

I want the attacks that do such ridiculous damage to at least have sufficient tells to them to react. Full draw leaves you immobile, and hits really hard after a significant delay, but the enemy archers get a step back fire that takes less time than a normal shot, displaces them away from you, and deals such damage levels to one shot a tank? Where is that attack on our archer skill trees.



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I will say it again, I hate archers.

You destroyed all the other enemies without issue, only to be taken from almost full health to nothing by one arrow. That isn't a L2p thing, or you would have struggled more with all those other enemies. You were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Happens to me a lot.

I feel like archers are too OP. One arrow should not kill you when you have almost full health.
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It is the same when they locked you and they still hit you even if you go into hiding.

 

 

currently i am playing assassin, and i am pulling my hairs.



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They're at their worst in laggy conditions.

Only the basic attack got nerfed, but only as near as makes no difference.

Really bad on area 4 of FC. My trusty dwarf goes from tanking god to worthless pincushion in seconds once they spawn on the battlements.

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It is the same when they locked you and they still hit you even if you go into hiding. stealth

 

currently i am playing assassin, and i am pulling my hairs.

 

FTFY. Don't stealth while they're locked on you, duck into hard cover asap (blocking the arrows), or gain maximum angular velocity in the opposite direct of  your previous tangential direction just as their animation ends. i.e. dodge and weave.  Pick up the skill Evade if you absolutely must. Fallback plan is still useful here too restoring your health after the arrow hits.

 

OTOH, you can use this animation locking to your advantage as an assassin. Once they start, they're committed to the animation, thus you can sneak up behind them and auto-attack/ twin fangs / deathblow / etc them even without stealth if you don't have aggro (which you don't after stealthing the first time).

 

I often find multiple archers near each other attacking my allies.  If I wait for their attack animation to begin, I can safely attack them because my daggers are quicker than their bows, and they will not turn around until their animation completes.


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also, noticed you edited your coalesced to 6 glitch your turian sentinel.  Makes one wonder what you have done in this game to achieve your stats.  

 

Unfortunately his profile is private now. For shame.


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Thing is, Archers are not even elite enemies, there are trash mob. And it is completily absurd that trash mob deals more damage then elite or even some

 boss enemies.


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Kenny Bania

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Looooooooool. How did I miss this???

 

Nice work Heroic. Can't say I'm surprised tbh.



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I would have went with drasca and said you over-extended your self at the wrong time but this has happen to me on my other characters like my archer and all he does is stand still 80 yards away from the fight mostly trying to LOS

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My point isn't that I shouldn't have been hit by that attack, I play games to chill out and have fun. Not to play perfectly all the time. The point of this video is to show the raw damage of 1 shot of an attack from a non elite mob. As I have already stated, that attack does more damage to me than an assassin does at close range.