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[vertigomez]

Archon, King/Queen (of Orzammar, Ferelden, etc.), Grand Enchanter, Black Divine, White Divine, First Warden, Arishok, Inquisitor, Empress/Emperor (of Orlais or.. wherever), Paragon, Knight-Vigilant...

Which of these positions would give you the biggest migraine of your life? Which has the most paperwork? Which has the most boot-licking, ass-kissing toadies and which would be the first to wring you out into a shriveled husk of a person? Which of these lofty titles would have you running away in the other direction if you were nominated?

[congokong]

I'd hate being a lyrium miner more than anything. lol As for the list, anything with Orlais would be agonizing for me because of my distaste for the game. Just hearing characters refer to murder, treachery, lies, etc. as as the game makes me want to hit them. I wouldn't like being an arishok either because of my strong issues with the qun, nor anything Chantry-related because of my strong issues with religion. I can't really give one answer.

[Master Warder Z_]

Knight Divine.

Your a cabal of bodyguards of the most important woman in Thedas and you also have to deal with the spiritual mandate of the Order itself.

[TheJediSaint]

Player Character.  Everyone's problems are now yours.

[Ariella]

Kitchen help on a Qunari ship (re Talis). After that, I'm with Jedi Saint... being the PC.

[Joe25]

The dwarf that is a tenth generation manure scraper in Orzammar. 

[Gervaise]

I would say that Black Divine, Archon or Emperor/Empress of Orlais would give me the biggest headaches because of the amount of backstabbing, political manoeuvring and generally avoiding getting assassinated that would entail.    You'd have few people you could count as real friends and it would be hard to know who you could trust.   I think this could account for why the current Archon likes cats.

 

First Enchanter would be a thankless task, at least under the old system, because of the constraints on your ability to really represent your mages.   Also you would be asked to endorse any orders by the Templars for mages to be made tranquil and then have to face seeing the result of your order every day.   You'd have to be pretty tough mentally to cope with that.

 

Being elder of the alienage, particularly in Val Royeaux would also get you down.   Having to constantly watch your people being demeaned and also never knowing when the next lot of Chevalier trainees were going to be let loose on one of their murderous rampages would greatly add to your stress and anxiety.

[Han Shot First]

First Warden.

 

All the rest at least have the possibility of dying peacefully in bed at the age of 80. If you're a Grey Warden, your life will end violently in battle against the darkspawn. 

[Caddius]

First Warden.

 

All the rest at least have the possibility of dying peacefully in bed at the age of 80. If you're a Grey Warden, your life will end violently in battle against the darkspawn. 

And I hear the job has a quick turn-over rate, too. :/

[SardaukarElite]

All the rest at least have the possibility of dying peacefully in bed at the age of 80. If you're a Grey Warden, your life will end violently in battle against the darkspawn. 

 

Not to mention that if there isn't a Blight you'll spend your days freezing on a mountain with nobody caring about you, and if there is a Blight you'll be in a constant war and high up the list of contenders to play soul kamikaze with an old god.

 

Also there's the remote chance of going crazy before the spawn catch you and spending the rest of your days wandering the Deep Roads muttering to yourself about the singing.

[Han Shot First]

Not to mention that if there isn't a Blight you'll spend your days freezing on a mountain with nobody caring about you, and if there is a Blight you'll be in a constant war and high up the list of contenders to play soul kamikaze with an old god.

 

Also there's the remote chance of going crazy before the spawn catch you and spending the rest of your days wandering the Deep Roads muttering to yourself about the singing.

 

Right, it's a choice between a long and slow decline into madness and slaving for the darkspawn or a brutal death fighting against them. The fact there is no happy ending for a Grey Warden would have to give the First Warden the title of the worst job of the bunch. And like you said, it's a largely thankless job that outside of a Blight, most of Thedas doesn't pay attention to. In DA:I, only 10 years out from a Blight, there were already some people talking about the Wardens as if they are useless relics from a bygone era.

 

Deaths in a medieval battle (which is basically how most Wardens go out) were also gruesome.

 

Richard III's last moments were likely quick but terrifying, according to a new study of the death wounds of the last king of England to die in battle...

 

....In the new postmortem, detailed today (Sept. 16) in the medical journal The Lancet, scientists took a deeper look, recording 11 injuries on Richard's skeleton that occurred around the time of death, including nine injuries to the skull.

 

...Three of the skull injuries were "shaving injuries" to the top of the head, said study researcher Sarah Hainsworth, a professor of materials and forensic engineering at the University of Leicester. These shallow, glancing blows would have sliced the scalp and shaved the skull bone. They would have bled heavily, but would not have been fatal unless untreated.

 

A knife or dagger likely left a 0.4-inch-long (10 millimeters) linear wound on his right lower jaw; he also had a penetrating dagger wound to his right cheek. A keyhole-shaped injury to the top of his head was almost certainly caused by a rondel dagger, a needlelike blade often used in the late Middle Ages. That wound would have caused both internal and external bleeding, but would not have been immediately fatal.

 

The deathblows likely came from a sword or a bill or halberd, which were bladed weapons on poles often used on the battlefield. At the base of Richard III's skull, researchers found two wounds, one 2.4 by 2.2 inches (60 by 55 mm) and one 1.21 by 0.67 inches (32 by 17 mm). This wound was in line with another, about 4 inches (105 mm) away on the internal wall of the skull, as well as in line with damage to the top vertebrae. In other words, it appears that the blade entered the head, sliced through the brain and hit the opposite side of the skull.

 

King Richard III's Final Moments Were Quick and Brutal

 

That is probably similar to how most First Wardens would die...surrounded by darkspawn raining blows from swords, daggers, and axes. 

[Caddius]

Actually, the High Constable deals with the actual Grey Warden business, and it's probably as exasperating as the First Warden playing politics with the sweaty nobles of the Anderfels.

Letter One: Where are the griffons? I was told there would be griffons. The griffons are a lie.

Letter Two: Would Weisshaupt agree that, just in case we needed to create a demon army from the blood sacrifice of our handful of Wardens, that a Shade is a good exchange for a Warden, provided they aren't a mage or a minmaxer?

Letter Three: We, the Wardens of Ferelden, would like to formally request the funding, tailors, and smiths that the Orlesian Wardens employ to make that totally wicked cool armor, bro. Like, we're sick and tired of Splintmail here. Only King Alistair doesn't laugh at us in court.

 

The King of Orzammar would probably be a suckier job than most monarchs. Your city is being slowly squeezed to death by darkspawn hordes, you're reliant on trade with the surfacers who are content to let you fight the darkspawn on your own until a Blight comes around, your only surviving sister city despises you and has some kind of weird Blight gum disease thing going on, and you're likely to be poisoned or watch your sons and cousins be cut down as the dwarves scramble to the top of a sinking ship.

[SardaukarElite]

Letter One: Where are the griffons? I was told there would be griffons. The griffons are a lie.

 

Well that is an important question.

[Caddius]

Well that is an important question.

Indeed.

Spoiler

HIGH CONSTABLE: All Wardens approaching the year of their Calling, please report to Weisshaupt to pet the baby griffons.

[vertigomez]

First Warden.
 
All the rest at least have the possibility of dying peacefully in bed at the age of 80. If you're a Grey Warden, your life will end violently in battle against the darkspawn.

Yeah, but... VALHALLA!

I would say that Black Divine, Archon or Emperor/Empress of Orlais would give me the biggest headaches because of the amount of backstabbing, political manoeuvring and generally avoiding getting assassinated that would entail.    You'd have few people you could count as real friends and it would be hard to know who you could trust.   I think this could account for why the current Archon likes cats.

I'm inclined to agree with this one, myself. It'd be murder on your nerves, having to constantly watch your back, never able to trust anyone... I don't think I could do it. I'm not sure any amount of power or influence would be worth that kind of paranoia, tbh.

The King of Orzammar would probably be a suckier job than most monarchs. Your city is being slowly squeezed to death by darkspawn hordes, you're reliant on trade with the surfacers who are content to let you fight the darkspawn on your own until a Blight comes around, your only surviving sister city despises you and has some kind of weird Blight gum disease thing going on, and you're likely to be poisoned or watch your sons and cousins be cut down as the dwarves scramble to the top of a sinking ship.

The worst thing about being the King of Orzammar is that outsiders leave you alone... the best part of being the King of Orzammar is that outsiders leave you alone.

[Sifr]

Grand Enchanter... while you are technically the leader, you're also subject to whatever decision the majority of your fellows vote on, so even if you didn't like the motion, you still get lumbered with all the blame if/when it all goes horrible wrong?

 

And that kids, is why you should never get into politics?

[Mr Plow]

Being the White Divine must be bloody knackering

 

 

and I would not want to be the Skyhold sanitation engineer

[Ezra Watcher]

First Warden.

 

All the rest at least have the possibility of dying peacefully in bed at the age of 80. If you're a Grey Warden, your life will end violently in battle against the darkspawn. 

Live Hard, Die Young, Leave a Good Looking Corpse. ---  unless your eaton by darkspawn.

[nightscrawl]

I would say that Black Divine, Archon or Emperor/Empress of Orlais would give me the biggest headaches because of the amount of backstabbing, political manoeuvring and generally avoiding getting assassinated that would entail.

Ugh... this is so true. BUT, there are some people, like Vivienne, that really enjoy all of those political antics, so the job isn't universally sucky for everyone.

 

From the OP's list I'd have to go with Inquisitor. Not only do you have to deal with all of the political crap, but you also have a huge amount of responsibility and you literally hold the fate of the world in the palm of your hand. So you not only have the trite garbage associated with such a role, but you have real physical dangers that those others don't have, even with the threat of assassination (which the Inquisitor also has).

[Ezra Watcher]

Ugh... this is so true. BUT, there are some people, like Vivienne, that really enjoy all of those political antics, so the job isn't universally sucky for everyone.

 

From the OP's list I'd have to go with Inquisitor. Not only do you have to deal with all of the political crap, but you also have a huge amount of responsibility and you literally hold the fate of the world in the palm of your hand. So you not only have the trite garbage associated with such a role, but you have real physical dangers that those others don't have, even with the threat of assassination (which the Inquisitor also has).

the palm of your "glowy hand"

[d1ta]

+1 for nightscrawl

The Inquisitor really has to run everything, making decisions that can shape a nation. From closing rifts, playing politics and watch your back at the same time (what Morrigan said in the epilogue).

And the most terrifying thing for my Inquisitor would be.. Josephine's resignation letter >_<' ouch. My Inqui totally detest the political game. Can't totally avoid it, brave the waters if she has to, but most of the time there's always Jo-jo.
I love my advisors, tbh. Up to the point that I could never let Leliana go and be next divine.

[nightscrawl]

Up to the point that I could never let Leliana go and be next divine.

I wish the Divine selection process was more accurately understood. I would much prefer Cassandra to become Divine, but I've always gotten Leliana instead.

[Ezra Watcher]

I wish the Divine selection process was more accurately understood. I would much prefer Cassandra to become Divine, but I've always gotten Leliana instead.

its murphy's law, if something can go wrong it will and in your case liliana became devine

[lynroy]

Divine - religion AND politics
I need a drink just thinking about it.