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How successful is DA:I for Bioware?


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Instead of building on all of these things, the series has morphed itself with each iteration. Drastically, fundamentally. It can't figure out what it wants to do, and winds up not making progress on fronts while introducing gaps and faults in the new approaches they work to integrate. They only build on one strength, companions, and waffle on everything else, from story to setting to mechanics..


As usual, I'll point out that "drastically" is in the eyes of the beholder.

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Meanwhile Bioware criticizes the Fallout 4 trailer. 



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one guy, who works for bioware not bioware.


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Meanwhile, another example of others on social media stomping another. Or the media for believing that showing Twitter accounts is actual reporting....

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Meanwhile Bioware criticizes the Fallout 4 trailer. 

I do believe that Bioware has it's own twitter account going by the username of Bioware and not the username of Alistair_McNally.

 

I also do believe that although this person is an employee of Bioware, the fact that they are using their personal account as oppose to the company account and the nature of the remark would suggest that they are making a personal remark that in no way should be taken as an official comment by Bioware.

 

The intention of your post aside, the content of it also has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.


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Meanwhile Bioware criticizes the Fallout 4 trailer. 

 

That may be the mildest criticism I've ever seen.



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As usual, I'll point out that "drastically" is in the eyes of the beholder.


Beholders have many eyes.
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Meanwhile Bioware criticizes the Fallout 4 trailer. 

 

Bioware did not criticize the Fallout4 trailer. An employee of Bioware using his personal account made a comment about the trailer for Fallout4. That does not represent Bioware's official line.

 

Also in my opinion he is not far off the mark compare the FO3 trailers and the FO4 trailer and see the similarities. I also like the Fallout4 trailer. I have been playing Fallout since FO1. I expected the trailer to be much like the previous Fallout trailers.

 

If he is so off the mark what in the Fallout 4 trailer is different from the previous Fallout trailers? Or is this just another attempt to criticize Bioware for something?

 

Or is that other companies can make remarks about Bioware trailers, games etc but not the other way around?


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I think the standard for officially taking potshots at developers what CDPR has done (principally but not only against Bioware). This is usually done via a proper interview (or that release they had trolling after the ME3 ending).

I don't think the tweet counts but I can see how people would take it that way. It's borderline.

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I think it would be borderline if it was the only dev working on Bioware voicing their opinion on Fallout or its trailer - but I've stumbled upon reactions to trailer/announcement on different dev twitters (John Epler, Mike Laidlaw, Matt Rhodes, among others I think) and most of them seem to be pretty enthusiastic.

 

I wonder therefore why people hang on one negative (pseudo-negative?) tweet, but don't mention the positive ones?

 

....Or maybe I shouldn't wonder at all. It is standard Internet/human reaction after all, it seems -_-



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I think it would be borderline if it was the only dev working on Bioware voicing their opinion on Fallout or its trailer - but I've stumbled upon reactions to trailer/announcement on different dev twitters (John Epler, Mike Laidlaw, Matt Rhodes, among others I think) and most of them seem to be pretty enthusiastic.

 

I wonder therefore why people hang on one negative (pseudo-negative?) tweet, but don't mention the positive ones?

 

....Or maybe I shouldn't wonder at all. It is standard Internet/human reaction after all, it seems-_-

 

He's the Creative Director, which is a high enough position and an involved enough position that I think falls in the "representing the company" type of box, and so that imposes a lot of strictures. The comment was really mild, which is what I think makes it boderline. But generally in a public forum like that, with a sufficiently high up position, bland positive statements are your only option. 



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He's the Creative Director, which is a high enough position and an involved enough position that I think falls in the "representing the company" type of box, and so that imposes a lot of strictures. The comment was really mild, which is what I think makes it boderline. But generally in a public forum like that, with a sufficiently high up position, bland positive statements are your only option. 

 

Honestly, that's just terrifying. People can spin everything into drama, it seems.



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Honestly, that's just terrifying. People can spin everything into drama, it seems.

That's the unfortunate reality with modern social media, which gives a megaphone to everyone. What you can say even in a text to a friend and what you can publicly announce is really different. When you're a high-up employee, twitter is the equivalent of "Reply All" at work. If you're not going to say it to your boss, don't say it on twitter. 



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I understand that people on certain positions have to be very careful what they have to say but that doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculous.


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I don't really think it's at all different from any other point in time - people just have more opportunities to speak their mind.

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I understand that people on certain positions have to be very careful what they have to say but that doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculous.

 

It's not ridiculous at all,it's just reasonable.



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It's not ridiculous at all,it's just reasonable.

 

Maybe in a cartoon...



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It's not ridiculous at all,it's just reasonable.


Yes it is, because for all practical purposes people are demanding he put a disclaimer whenever he has a private opinion he wants to share.
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The thing that Bio really needs to learn from CDPR is the way they manipulate the fanbase. If Bio tried that free DLC ploy everybody'd be calling it a scam --"They're releasing parts of the game late and expecting you to thank them for it!", etc.

If they will continue to manipulate me, by giving to me free stuff, that improve the quality of a game that is already amazing ("my opinion before you start to blush")i'm fine with it.

Bioware on the other part doesn't even bother to "manipulate" (as you said) ,they directly mocked the fanbase.
 

http://forum.bioware...-the-avvar-dlc/

 

I'm sure that the Bioware fanboy will love to pay  their beloved Spoils of the Avvar DLC,especially considered that there was no need to separate this pack from the previous DLC,but to each their own i guess....

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If they will continue to manipulate me, by giving to me free stuff, that improve the quality of a game that is already amazing ("my opinion before you start to blush")i'm fine with it.

Bioware on the other part doesn't even bother to "manipulate" (as you said) ,they directly mocked the fanbase.
 

http://forum.bioware...-the-avvar-dlc/

 

I'm sure that the Bioware fanboy will love to pay  their beloved Spoils of the Avvar DLC,especially considered that there was no need to separate this pack from the previous DLC,but to each their own i guess....

 

 

Yes, because as we know, Spoils of Avvar is the only DLC (aside from JOH) Bioware has delivered - never mind Black Emporium, various additions like tinting table or storage chest or extensive additions to Multiplayer or multiple patches that - oh wait, that's right - improve the game at no additional cost...


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Yes it is, because for all practical purposes people are demanding he put a disclaimer whenever he has a private opinion he wants to share.

People that are in a Higher position of an renowned company 
(we are talking about the creative director here) must pay attention to what they say,they have to think first and firmly about their company reputation,it's doesn't matter if he shared a private opinion, they do not possess this luxury 
(unless they deliberately wish to lose some consumers,  especially if they are talking about the work of another company into a public board), usually people that own important position already know this ,  ridiculous it may be,it's exactly how it works.


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Yes it is, because for all practical purposes people are demanding he put a disclaimer whenever he has a private opinion he wants to share.

 

Its why I think we have less interaction with BioWare anymore, they got tired of seeing everything they post require a disclaimer or be twisted to suit someone's personal viewpoint.


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Yes, because as we know, Spoils of Avvar is the only DLC (aside from JOH) Bioware has delivered - never mind Black Emporium, various additions like tinting table or storage chest or extensive additions to Multiplayer or multiple patches that - oh wait, that's right - improve the game at no additional cost...

Black emporium which is ultimately useful due to the possibility to customize your avatar,don't mind that was released after some month when people that had purchased the game at launch (not my case) had already completed and explored the game and moved forward to other games.
But honestly we wish to really compare the numbers of free stuff released for WH3 with the number of free stuff released for DA,especially considering the fact that all this cosmetic feature were realesed for the WItcher near to the game launch? (not during the next year)
For Multiplayer (which i honestly  couldn't care less) i don't even bother to respond if the microtransaction are not enough to monetize....
Just explore the topic of the spoils of avvar to understand the mood of the fans.

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So it is okay if one of the designers from CDProjekt Red says something negative about DAI in an interview (http://news.softpedi...ys-472202.shtml,) but the creative director of Bioware cannot tweet a personal opinion about a Fallout 4 trailer?

 

So Bioware/EA gets hit with the double standard?


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If they will continue to manipulate me, by giving to me free stuff, that improve the quality of a game that is already amazing ("my opinion before you start to blush")i'm fine with it.
Bioware on the other part doesn't even bother to "manipulate" (as you said) ,they directly mocked the fanbase.
 
http://forum.bioware...-the-avvar-dlc/
 
I'm sure that the Bioware fanboy will love to pay  their beloved Spoils of the Avvar DLC,especially considered that there was no need to separate this pack from the previous DLC,but to each their own i guess....


So, if Bio had just held back a bunch of content and rolled it out later, you'd be grateful? My assumptions was that Bio couldn't get away with this, but I guess I was wrong.

And I can't find any mockery of the fanbase in the thread you linked to. I was kind of hoping for some, but I guess Gaider's the only Bio guy with the balls to treat us as we deserve to be treated.
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