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How successful is DA:I for Bioware?


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They also praised DAI in their most recent Q4 earnings call (200 million hours played in the singleplayer campaign so far, that's up from the 113 million hours they reported in January)

 

Really? That's good to hear. If they're trumpeting something like DAI that loudly, considering as far as I've seen, Dragon Age doesn't have the same kind of brand recognition that something like Mass Effect and definitely not like some of the shooters and sports games that EA puts out. If the game is being mentioned in the same breath as their big sellers, I think that's a damn good indicator.

 

 

i guess it's because it hurts...the truth i  mean

 

So if CDPR representative makes a critical comment in an official interview about Bioware, it's truth and not treated as scandal, but when a Bioware employee makes a personal observation on his twitter account, something that could barely be considered criticism, it's a horrible scandal of Bioware slamming Bethesda.

 

Double standard much?


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@Ariella

 

Well, they praised it briefly, and noted that giving Bioware that extra month to polish was the right call, but most of the call seemed dedicated to anticipation for Star Wars games (Battlefront mostly.  SWTOR's apparently performing solidly btw)



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Well, they praised it briefly, and noted that giving Bioware that extra month to polish was the right call, but most of the call seemed dedicated to anticipation for Star Wars games (Battlefront mostly.  SWTOR's apparently performing solidly btw)


Still, they're saying something rather than nothing. :)

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They also praised DAI in their most recent Q4 earnings call (200 million hours played in the singleplayer campaign so far, that's up from the 113 million hours they reported in January)

well ****



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@Ariella

 

Yes, it's definitely a good sign that they're still touting its success.  Though, from the first call, I think the most important statement was that it beat their expectations.

 

It could be they were lowballing it before release (Something companies do so they can tell their investers they beat expectations), but considering how willing they were to delay the game a year and then another month, I'm guessing expectations were pretty high.



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Indeed, since not only PC, but also next gen consoles are moving into digital distribution, it is going to be very difficult to track these numbers. Especially since many of these venues also allow full refunds, like through Origin or the EA Pass through the XB1.

Still, NPD usually takes these numbers into consideration and has a respectable track record of being in the ballpark with digital distribution sales since 2013. So how they were so off the mark with DA:I is worth pondering.

 

They do?

 

"NPD only tracks new physical games sold at U.S. retailers. You know what doesn’t factor into that description? Used games, digital, mobile, or anything sold in Europe. So think of this as a useful snapshot of a wider, more dynamic industry."

 

http://venturebeat.c...s-strong-debut/



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The CDPR guy was absolutely correct though in his assessment. He also praised the game and said overall he liked it as well so there's that.

 

So you are saying that the Creative Director of Bioware is not correct in his assessment? As I stated before look at the FO3 trailers and the FO4 trailer and tell me you can tell the difference.



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They do?

"NPD only tracks new physical games sold at U.S. retailers. You know what doesn’t factor into that description? Used games, digital, mobile, or anything sold in Europe. So think of this as a useful snapshot of a wider, more dynamic industry."

http://venturebeat.c...s-strong-debut/


Yes, they do.

It may be a shocking revalation to you, but the words of such a high prestige source such as "Venture Beat" is not the Gospel truth of all things business.

https://www.npd.com/...se/video-games/

NPD is the only industry sales analytics group that accurately tracks digital and online sales when creating their models for a title's success.


What I'm interested to see is if NPD's projections are accurate for The Witcher 3 next month.

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How is that negative?
Its the truth the game does have too many fetch quests I think most would agree on that

 

And the point I was making was that the FO4 trailer looks like the FO3 trailers so the creative director was not off the mark nor being negative. He was as you would say stating the truth.



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i guess it's because it hurts...the truth i  mean

Which also would mean that the creative director is stating the truth in regards to the trailer.



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So you are saying that the Creative Director of Bioware is not correct in his assessment? As I stated before look at the FO3 trailers and the FO4 trailer and tell me you can tell the difference.


Well, the dog protagonist for Fallout 4 seems like a bold and inventive choice.
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*snip*

It would be wonderful if this meant EA would be more willing to allow Bioware to delay release dates and other such things now that they potentially consider a financial success a possible result of such. Hopefully, it also spells good times for the continuation of the franchise since Inquisition showed it had financial potential still.    



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Well, the dog protagonist for Fallout 4 seems like a bold and inventive choice.

:lol:

Touche!



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It would be wonderful if this meant EA would be more willing to allow Bioware to delay release dates and other such things now that they potentially consider a financial success a possible result of such. Hopefully, it also spells good times for the continuation of the franchise since Inquisition showed it had financial potential still.

Compared to DA2, ME2 and ME3, DAI already vot more development time. The same goes for NME, which will have at least the same dev time of DAI, but Probably more.

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Compared to DA2, ME2 and ME3, DAI already vot more development time. The same goes for NME, which will have at least the same dev time of DAI, but Probably more.

It was meant more as a hope that something like Dragon Age 2's infamous rushed development would be less likely to be repeated.

 



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It was meant more as a hope that something like Dragon Age 2's infamous rushed development would be less likely to be repeated.

 

It could happen again and I don't think the guy currently that is in charge of EA would do something like that, but who knows what future leadership might do.



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And the point I was making was that the FO4 trailer looks like the FO3 trailers so the creative director was not off the mark nor being negative. He was as you would say stating the truth.

I know and I actually agree with him



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So if CDPR representative makes a critical comment in an official interview about Bioware, it's truth and not treated as scandal, but when a Bioware employee makes a personal observation on his twitter account, something that could barely be considered criticism, it's a horrible scandal of Bioware slamming Bethesda.

 

Double standard much?

Don't understand the meaning of this comment i have made the previous comment not a CDPR representative.
Yes is my truth there are too many fetch quest in DAI,but as i already stated, i have made  the comment not them,who were been very polite in the interview.
where is the double standard? You're trying to find something that doesn't exist.

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Don't understand the meaning of this comment i have made the previous comment not a CDPR representative.
Yes is my truth there are too many fetch quest in DAI,but as i already stated, i have made  the comment not them,who were been very polite in the interview.
where is the double standard? You're trying to find something that doesn't exist.


We were discussing the cdpr interview link. If that is acceptable as done in an official interview as a rep of the company but unacceptable when done by an employee, using his own private twitter account Is a double standard.
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We were discussing the cdpr interview link. If that is acceptable as done in an official interview as a rep of the company but unacceptable when done by an employee, using his own private twitter account Is a double standard.

I have already clarified my position in a previous response  #851
The previous comment that you have used to put the double standard argument was mine,private consumer who have the luxury to judge the product,i believe that there are too many fetch quest,it doesn't matter what CDPR say, because i stated that as my personal opinion,again regarding the matter in #851 i have already answered.
i said it's the truth intended from my perspective,i never said CDPR is right, because is the same that the creative Director of Bioware has done.
to quick to jump on your conclusions.......


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Soo... Why is commenting on the product of your competition bad?

Is commenting at all bad? Or is only making negative comments bad?

 

Because I fail to see what all the fuss is about. 



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Soo... Why is commenting on the product of your competition bad?
Is commenting at all bad? Or is only making negative comments bad?
 
Because I fail to see what all the fuss is about.


Someone tried to spin a comment from a personal twitter point and make it seem like he was speaking for the company, thus slamming Bethesa.

Honestly, it's a non story drummed up by a website in order to pander to the lowest common denominator and generate site traffic.

The funniest thing is the comment is extremely mild.

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Yes, they do.

It may be a shocking revalation to you, but the words of such a high prestige source such as "Venture Beat" is not the Gospel truth of all things business.

https://www.npd.com/...se/video-games/

NPD is the only industry sales analytics group that accurately tracks digital and online sales when creating their models for a title's success.


What I'm interested to see is if NPD's projections are accurate for The Witcher 3 next month.

 

The monthly NPD charts and the leaked Dragon Age numbers for that matter are only physical sales.



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So you are saying that the Creative Director of Bioware is not correct in his assessment? As I stated before look at the FO3 trailers and the FO4 trailer and tell me you can tell the difference.

Maybe it was the trailers I saw, but they looked quite different to me. Stylistically they're similar I suppose, but it wouldn't make much sense if they weren't stylistically similar, so I don't understand the complaint.

 

The FO3 trailer I saw starts out on a bus and pulls back to the bombed out city and the FO:NV had victor digging a shot of a pretty much intact Vegas, so not seeing that they're the same.

 

This new trailer was quite clever I feel in showing the before and after shots. Not sure that I'll buy the game though since it seems they've made a bad choice in going for a fixed, voice protagonist this time around instead of our character, but we'll see.



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Well I looked @ the VGchartz (I know it's not an official sales number) & here is the breakdown

 

Ps4     1.48m

XB1    0.66m

PC      0.48m

360     0.39m

PS3    0.43m

 

So that's an estimate of 3.44m sold according to VGchartz for whatever that's worth. 

 

As for the "Most Successful Bio launch ever" bit, it could mean that DAI had the best first 2 months of sales compared to any other Bio game but not the best overall in terms of sales as of right now. (As long as the VG charts are somewhat no the ball & a million people didn't buy the game digitally)

 

Speculation 4 evry1!!!  :lol:

 

Am I reading this right?  DAI sold the most on the PS4?

 

How ironic that it was PS4 (and previous generation consoles) that got the shaft with the delayed release of the JoH DLC, when they end up being the biggest reason for DAI's solid sales totals.


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