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How successful is DA:I for Bioware?


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#76
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Yes, it's all a conspiracy by the arrogant Haves and their wicked enjoyment of Inquisition to spit on the already-wounded Have Nots, who dare to rise against the false tide and openly admit the faults they find with their chosen purchase. We are awarding one-another internet pseudo-fame at the crimson expense of those whose opinions differ from our own. You may as well call us the next Arishok, because the Qun demands all those who dislike this video game be denied satisfaction.

We've been made, boys and women. Let's bolt.
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I didn't know all of that!!!!  And here I just thought it was a common theme in every thread like this without fail and was fool proof.  I don't like the game. I do. **click click click click click click click click click**

 

You sir have just stepped in poop.  We all know your true colors now.  Consider yourselves to be on THE "watch list"


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Outside of these forums you'll get a more well-rounded opinion of DAI especially when it comes to the open-world approach and blank protagonist. Here, everyone is a DAI fanboy so you'll get no traction here.

 

You do realise that by this distinction everyone who post on these forums are by default a "DAI fanboy" and by this destinction so are you?  

 
 


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You do realise that by this distinction everyone who post on these forums are by default a "DAI fanboy" and by this destinction so are you?  

 

I think this amusing witticism is reaching a level of intelligence that this thread neither merits, nor is capable of  :P


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The Warden is the ultimate personality-less insert-here protagonist. There's nothing to the character besides being an awesome murderer and the (admittedly great) origins. But post-Ostagar 

Is the so called ultimate killing Machine with the awesome Origin, is also more interesting than being  a Tranquil don't you agree?


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You do realise that by this distinction everyone who post on these forums are by default a "DAI fanboy" and by this destinction so are you?  

 
 

 

Not true!

 

Some of us are fan girls.


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Is the so called ultimate killing Machine with the awesome Origin, is also more interesting than being  a Tranquil don't you agree?

 

 

Even if I agreed that the Inquisitor isn't emotive enough - which I don't agree with- my answer is "No, it isn't". It's why I said I found the HOF to be the least interesting PC. 



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You do realise that by this distinction everyone who post on these forums are by default a "DAI fanboy" and by this destinction so are you?  

 
 

 

Yeah, that statement was based around much hyperbole, but I still believe that the concept of DAI is generally well received by everyone here. I could be wrong, but I always felt that I was in the minority when I brought up complaints such as DAI having less cinematic conversations and the Inquisitor being an annoyingly neutral/disconnected/boring protagonist, especially coming from Bioware. When I made threads regarding this after the release of of DAI last November/December, I was generally "attacked" and only a few people here and there would agree with me. This has given me the believe (possibly false believe) that it is difficult to criticize DAI because from my opinion, people generally like DAI and how it was executed, which is a contrast from how the forums treated DA2 after it's release when the majority of the people hated the game and I was one of the few lone gamers who "supported" Bioware with their approach with DA2.

 

Just like Mass Effect, there are DAI gamers here who will defend the game no matter what for various reasons so constructive criticism of the game cannot get through to the developers because they are almost always shot down by those who strongly support the game. Example, if I created a thread detailing that I am still upset that Bioware hasn't given the IQ more "personality" on the Jaws of Hakkon DLC for PS4 (after it is released on the PS4), I bet you the thread would be hailed as just another person begging for cheese with his "whine" and thus a very important issue to many regarding the IQ would be shot down yet again. Or if I complained about the lack of cinematic dialog in the DLC, it would be hailed as a whine thread. That is the tone of the DAI forums. Again, this is different from the tone of the DA2 forums immediately after release in which the tone was generally negative and anyone praising the game was shot down. Or someone praising the ME3 ending pre-EC was shot down.

 

So yeah, my insertion that everyone here is a DAI fanboy was over the top, but I do hold my ground that the "tone" of this place is a bit more on the supportive side when it comes to DAI and anything negative against DAI would in many cases be seen as more complaining and less constructive. 


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Pretty well-constructed response, that.

DAI's distanced-camera conversation overload is definitely one of its biggest problems. Maybe not the biggest, but it's on the list. I don't mind the Inquisitor so much as I wish there were more unique content for them, but if it came at the cost of any of the currently-existing storyline content I'd decline its arrival. Stuff is stretched too thinly as-is!

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I know I'm in the minority, but I like the lack of a dedicated cutscene camera for a lot of conversations. I think we need more control over the camera in those conversations (e.g. not just the ability to scroll - on my custom keybinding it's using Q/E to rotate - but also the ability to zoom in and out). Still, I like it a lot more than just a static camera (e.g. it lets me focus on my PC the entire time if I want, or on the NPC the entire time, etc.) and (once you get late enough in game) it lets you wear helmets and chat. 

 

I didn't mean to go off-topic, but this a feature I was really against pre-release and I'm shocked by how much I enjoyed it. 



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Bioware is doing the anime thing - quirky characters, comic relief and intriguing premise in exchange for a barebones story.

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For me it depends, if it's completely random people I don't mind the distanced-camera 


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Scattered complaining that is more about certain details of the game. I am talking about people who all out do not like DAI and hates everything that it stands for.

Plenty of them around here too.


I mean lets be honest here, DAI is NOT Bioware's best game in terms of quality, but because it is their "best selling" game of all time, it is subjectively touted as Bioware's best game.

Do people actually say that? I haven't heard it much. In that thread for ranking Bio games it was very rare to see DAI ranked #1 all-time, although it outranked DAI a bit more than a third of the time.

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I do not believe that I am the only one that prefers the fewer cinematics used in DAI as opposed to those seen in the ME series. I rather enjoy playing a RPG; not watching an interactive film.
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Bioware is doing the anime thing - quirky characters, comic relief and intriguing premise in exchange for a barebones story.

 

Have you watched anime? There's a lot of stuff you can say about the story - Gainax ending criticisms, all characters being 16-18, the whole thing being convoluted nonsense that's basically an animated fevered dream - but barebones? 



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After years of convincing him, my friend finalyl purchased origins. He's telling me about what's happening in his playthrough, and hearing about it makes me think to myself about how great Origins was and how I was equally as enthusiastic about it. It also made me think of how I not only lacked the same enthusiasm for Inquisition (not because I wasn't looking forward to it; i was but I mean in enjoyment terms) but that unlike Origins which I was able to replay around forty times without getting bored, the second time around that I played Inquisition it was extremely tedious. It wasn't "Here we go again!  :D " It was "Here we go again...  :rolleyes: "


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Boy this OP doesn't give up does he with these little threads of his.  I would say the consensus of DAI is that it is a pretty good game overall but not bioware's best work.  I like the game and find it an improvement from DA 2 but I still believe DAO remains the best game in the series.


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Scattered complaining that is more about certain details of the game. I am talking about people who all out do not like DAI and hates everything that it stands for.

 

I mean lets be honest here, DAI is NOT Bioware's best game in terms of quality, but because it is their "best selling" game of all time, it is subjectively touted as Bioware's best game. 

 

But its not their best selling game, there has not been any evidence that it has passed DAO in sales let alone ME3 or ME2. 



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Boy this OP doesn't give up does he with these little threads of his.  I would say the consensus of DAI is that it is a pretty good game overall but not bioware's best work.  I like the game and find it an improvement from DA 2 but I still believe DAO remains the best game in the series.

 

Yeah, but that is normally the consensus around here after a BioWare release, for people were pretty hard on Origins after it was first released as well.  The only real notable exception was Dragon Age II.


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Is the so called ultimate killing Machine with the awesome Origin, is also more interesting than being  a Tranquil don't you agree?


If anyone was Tranquil, it was the Warden.

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Bioware is doing the anime thing - quirky characters, comic relief and intriguing premise in exchange for a barebones story.

 

While I couldn't say that this sort of thing is synonymous with anime, I'd say that this is the entire series in a nutshell. If you stripped away the quirky characters, comic relief and such from any of the games, you're not left with a whole lot except your basic ancient evil or mad villain.


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Bioware is doing the anime thing - quirky characters, comic relief and intriguing premise in exchange for a barebones story.


If that's the anime thing, Bioware has always done the anime thing.

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Boy this OP doesn't give up does he with these little threads of his.  I would say the consensus of DAI is that it is a pretty good game overall but not bioware's best work.  I like the game and find it an improvement from DA 2 but I still believe DAO remains the best game in the series.

 
The funny thing is that only a few months ago he was fanboying hard for it.
 

yes there is something wrong with you
the game is awesome a shame you can't enjoy it


no I love the game probably the best Bioware game to date
typical RPG tropes in the main storyline? have you even played DA:origins? ridiculous

ohh god another one of these "hardcore" RPG players so sick of them everything was better before we get it now get out
there are many who are enjoying this current direction


What an epic 180!
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The funny thing is that only a few months ago he was fanboying hard for it.
 


What an epic 180!

 

That troll logic



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Like any true denizen of the interwebz I am going to give you all my opinion without even glancing at the previous posts in this thread :wizard:

 

 

I thought DA:I was good, but not great. Regardless of that, the point I'm making for the purpose of this thread is that open-world is the flavour of the month right now in the games industry, especially in RPG land, and all single player open-world games have to balance story and open-worldness. DA:I had a good story, but certain open-world elements (pointless fetch quests) could have been done better.

 

Skyrim for example, incredible open-world, storyline is a bit meh. Skyrim is saved because the open-world element is so fantastic. The Witcher 3, from all of the reviews, looks like a game that has finally found that perfect balance.

 

All in all, I think that Bioware will find the right balance for DA eventually. Maybe they'll move away from open-world altogether? I trust Bioware to deliver.