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[Naughty Bear]

Hail communism

[Sion1138]

Iduno there are a lot if statistics and my Dyscalcula makes understanding them dificult to be honest.

but regardless the numbers are high and with either gender people need help.

 

I'm not sure that it can be helped to be honest, not significantly anyway.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

True dat but even just geting the msege out helps dosnt it? 

[leighzard]

Definitely.  Suicide rates may be somewhat less responsive to change than the domestic violence issue, which it seems needs more attention.

Male victims of domestic abuse may be afraid to come forward because of the stigma. Speaking out about the issue could help to remove some of the stigma and increase resource allocation to give assistance to men who need it.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Exactly why i made the thread. not to attack anyone or spread any thing but the woed that this guy is going to go 15 days on pure Vitriol.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

When you are expected to be the tough guy or when your problems are not taken seriously or to "tough it up and be a real man" or to suppress your emotions because that is what real men do or to shut up and not mansplain or have manly tears...

 

When that kind of crap happens to you, you will end up finding that suicide is typically the "real man" way to solve problems....You will find life has very little point...

 

I have been around groups of men like this who need help before. That is usually the gist of what they say. 

[Fast Jimmy]

When you are expected to be the tough guy or when your problems are not taken seriously or to "tough it up and be a real man" or to suppress your emotions because that is what real men do or to shut up and not mansplain or have manly tears...

When that kind of crap happens to you, you will end up finding that suicide is typically the "real man" way to solve problems....You will find life has very little point...

I have been around groups of men like this who need help before. That is usually the gist of what they say.

No one is obligated to hear about your problems or your emotions. It's great if you have that support system, but it's not something the world just gives everyone. I'd say paying to go see a psychological professional would help out if these feelings of stress and neglect are affecting anyone, ESPECIALLY if suicide is seeming like the best solution to anything (pro-tip, it's not).

[Gotholhorakh]

One problem is that men, young and old, are often square pegs in round holes, they are being squeezed by a world that militates against everything they are, everything they might stand for. When pressure is unrelenting, help is non-existent, (past a certain point in your life) responsibility to others is boundless, glimpses of love or meaning are fleeting, your happiness is of little concern to anyone, ditto your personal safety you are on your own (and so on) life can get a bit challenging, by which I mean it can become a long slow process of skirting an abyss other people don't have the slightest clue about. As a footnote, replacing the meaningful things and traditions in life with nihilism and consumerism simply leads to being an unhappy man, however much people sneer about meaningful things and traditions, empty lives are best suited to empty people.

 

Some of us develop a "**** it, burn me at the stake if you will" attitude to all sorts of motherfuckers with their screwy worldviews, which is a good way for men to survive and be happy in the modern world imo.

 

 

Naw, you can have kids. But if you marry always get a pre-nup and make sure she works (less alimony that way). But yeah.... You can't trust women in today's society. They're all entitled and will lie, cheat and manipulate you without qualms. Every dude I know that is married for 5+years is misserable. I know no happily married men, as in real marriage, not the honey-moon stage. They're all a kinda miserable bunch. 

 

 

Also, I don't think men need marriage. Marriage as always been for the woman. To provide security, stability, a home, money and a title. But now, with women working and with young women actually making more money than their male counterparts, I think marriage is a thing of the past. But..... men keep getting duped into it and they keep doing it without protecting themselves and THEIR assets. Pre-nup, pre-nup, pre-nup. If she really does LOVE you, then she'll have no problems with signing the pre-nup. Afterall.... isn't that what it's about.... "True love", lol. 

 

All very well, but getting a pre-nup feels like treating someone badly, insincerely and making promises without honour.

 

I'm every bit as cynical as you, and for sure people seem to now see marriage as a 10 year thing, perhaps because lots of people have a ridiculous, childish, narcisstic idea that marriage is there to be a declaration of their emotions. Still I would rather face the endgame with all of the horrors that entails, than ask a woman for a pre-nup.

 

I guess that's because the idea of an oath to be loyal to the death means something to me, like a lot of us, (not judging, clearly life is full of obstacles and everyone makes mistakes).

 

We have to be very careful that we do not become like the terrorists people we have relationships with.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

 

However, reality is reality, no matter how you feel about it. Reality tells us that marriage has more than 50% chance of divorce.

 

lol In our country the rate of divorce is 20%!

 

There is still hope for us. Your country is hopeless!

[Lumix19]

Sooo.. is it just me or does anybody else find this thread annoyingly heteronormative?

 

Naw, you can have kids. But if you marry always get a pre-nup and make sure she works (less alimony that way). But yeah.... You can't trust women in today's society. They're all entitled and will lie, cheat and manipulate you without qualms. Every dude I know that is married for 5+years is misserable. I know no happily married men, as in real marriage, not the honey-moon stage. They're all a kinda miserable bunch. 

 

 

Also, I don't think men need marriage. Marriage as always been for the woman. To provide security, stability, a home, money and a title. But now, with women working and with young women actually making more money than their male counterparts, I think marriage is a thing of the past. But..... men keep getting duped into it and they keep doing it without protecting themselves and THEIR assets. Pre-nup, pre-nup, pre-nup. If she really does LOVE you, then she'll have no problems with signing the pre-nup. Afterall.... isn't that what it's about.... "True love", lol. 

 

Especially this.

 

Also I know lots of nice women thanks.

[Queen Skadi]

For some reason I think this is going to end with Dan starving to death.

[Gotholhorakh]

Sooo.. is it just me or does anybody else find this thread annoyingly heteronormative?

 

 

I know right, it's so heteronormative I could throw up. Ick!
 

[Sion1138]

No one is obligated to hear about your problems or your emotions. It's great if you have that support system, but it's not something the world just gives everyone. I'd say paying to go see a psychological professional would help out if these feelings of stress and neglect are affecting anyone, ESPECIALLY if suicide is seeming like the best solution to anything (pro-tip, it's not).

 

Pro-tip?

[Fast Jimmy]

Pro-tip?

I'm a pro at not killing myself? Been doing it all my life.

[Zanallen]

In general. its arround 80%

women are slightly more likely to try it men are more likely to carry threw with it.

 

This is due to methods used, is it not? Men are more likely to choose more...Lethal methods. Such as guns or jumping and such. Women usually go for pills or slitting wrists.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

 i think so.

For some reason I think this is going to end with Dan starving to death.

nah he was on honey badger radio a few days ago he says he knows his body and his limit he is sticking to 15 days.

Oh and he is now beach body ready.

[Sion1138]

I'm a pro at not killing myself? Been doing it all my life.

 

Oh, wow.

[Fast Jimmy]

Oh, wow.

I guess that didn't come out right. I'm not someone who has ever made an attempt on my own life - was just trying to make a (poor) joke.

[mybudgee]

lol In our country the rate of divorce is 20%!

 

Where is this golden land of opportunity??

[Sion1138]

I guess that didn't come out right. I'm not someone who has ever made an attempt on my own life - was just trying to make a (poor) joke.

 

Oh no, I approve. It was a decent joke.

 

I merely asked because it seemed implied to me that you might perhaps know more about the subject.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Where is this golden land of opportunity??

 

Asia!

[Queen Skadi]

nah he was on honey badger radio a few days ago he says he knows his body and his limit he is sticking to 15 days.

 

Hmm then one has to wonder what the point is?

[breakdown71289]

Am i the only one that actually believes in true love? Fate? destiny? you know the things that dreams are made of. I rather be hopeful, cheerful and romantic instead of joining the rest of the humans in cynic town.

Dammit, I tried to like your post twice, but BioWare wouldn't allow it!

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Hmm then one has to wonder what the point is?

Publicity and drawing attention to the issue that tends to get ignored . watch the interview i linked too in the 1st post.

[Fast Jimmy]

Asia!

 

...Asia?