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[KainD]

Would anyone here really be offended if your Inquisitor, and your LI, had an on screen sex scene?

How about a sex mini-game? You have press buttons at the right time to perform well and gain more approval, and if you really suck the romance ends.

[Geth Supremacy]

How about a sex mini-game? You have press buttons at the right time to perform well and gain more approval, and if you really suck the romance ends.

 

Pressure sensitive too.  Also if you dive right in from the start she gets mad at you and thinks you're an idiot.

 

If you do a good job you should get money and meals.

[KaiserShep]

How about a sex mini-game? You have press buttons at the right time to perform well and gain more approval, and if you really suck the romance ends.

 

Or just have it be like a sex scene in God of War, and it's akin to a QTE while we watch random objects nearby shake or fall off the table during the commotion.

[vertigomez]

Or just have it be like a sex scene in God of War, and it's akin to a QTE while we watch random objects nearby shake or fall off the table during the commotion.

If only Dorian really had set the curtains on fire...

[trevelyan_shep]

If I wanted to watch people have sex I can always watch porn. I'd rather not see it in a video game.

[KaiserShep]

If I wanted to watch people have sex I can always watch porn. I'd rather not see it in a video game.

 

Especially with the clipping. Having one character's fingers disappear the skin of the other while groping totally kills the production value.

[nightscrawl]

Especially with the clipping. Having one character's fingers disappear the skin of the other while groping totally kills the production value.

 

Yeah... as much as I love that Dorian .gif I posted, there is a bit of clipping on the leg which is unfortunate. They also never seemed to resolve the Fenris kiss alignment issues, and there can be an unfortunate bug with Alistair where he puts his hand through your neck while you're kissing... ah well.

[FemShem]

Eh, I guess Sera is the M FTW!  I played Witcher 2, definitely wished for hotter toons.  I do not make a sexy guy, plus I can't remember, but I think it was heteronormative...blah, blah, blah.  Been a long time since I played that game.

Yeah, if you going to give us an M, make it a good one.  If I'm not feeling it, I don't romance, but if I want one, I'd love to watch something "Mature".  Plus my wife thinks it's hysterical.  Who am I to deny my wife a good laugh.  Better to take out laughter on DA than me in the bedroom;)

Fun stuff.

[Dieb]

I think it's mostly the nipples, strongly hinted sexual positions as mentioned; and maybe even the fact that humans regularly blow up into guts and bones in combat. (whoever Grunsmann was, he had a sense of humor for certain) Anything else would be misplaced. As much as I don't need cutscene closeups of extreme brutality, I don't need clear(er) depictions of what's happening in the sheets.

 

Like the Game of Thrones guy once mentioned, brutality is always fine, but clear depictions of sex is frowned upon - he clearly has a point, but it works both ways**: GoT has no other way to go about at this point than to constantly outdo itself with both sexual and violent content. It's become the "thing" of the show, and I personally find it refreshing to be done once, but I woldn't want it to become the standard of entertainment.

 

Don't get me wrong, violence can be satisfying in a completely unharmful, videogamey kind of way, as well as sex is natural and a beautiful thing. It's just, once you've seen a human getting eviscerated in all detail and penetration is as trivial as a pat on the back, there isn't much to get excited or react to it but "Ah."

 

I'd rather go back to more brain work, inspired by decent and creative implications, for it is unlimited. If anything, BW half-asses*** both approaches, and that's the problem.

 

 

**Ha!

*** Get it? Half of an ass? Or any othe- ...aw, you got it, alright.

[BraveVesperia]

Would anyone here really be offended if your Inquisitor, and your LI, had an on screen sex scene?

What would be the point of that though? All the romance scenes where someone was naked make it very obvious that sex has taken place. An actual cutscene isn't needed to know that, it doesn't add anything to the story or character relationships. The only reason to add an actual sex cutscene would be for some pointless titillation. Awkward too. Even disregarding the fugly underwear from DAO, those 'sex cutscenes' were always skipped by me.

I've seen a few of the Witcher's scenes, though I've never played the games. Can't see what those add to it either other.

[aoibhealfae]

From the ESRB site.

Spoiler

"This is a role-playing game in which players assume the role of a warrior battling evil forces in different dimensions. Characters use swords, axes, hammers, and magic attacks to kill fantastical creatures (e.g., demons, monsters, dwarfs) and humans in melee-style combat. Cutscenes sometimes depict characters impaled or getting their throats slit. Violent sequences are often highlighted by cries of pain, gurgling/gushing sounds, and large blood-splatter effects; blood remains on the ground in several environments. The game includes some sexual material: a female character briefly depicted in front of a man's torso (fellatio is implied); characters depicted topless or with exposed buttocks while lying in bed or after sex; some dialogue referencing sex/sexuality (e.g., “'I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this with great respect'” and “The way your t*ts bounce when I pin your arms and take you on the side of the bed…”). The words “f**k,” “sh*t,” and “a*shole” appear in dialogue"

 

Uhhh... feeling so victorian right now... and I live in a muslim country that's quite conservative.. I thought you westerners were supposed to be progressive and liberal and all....

[NRieh]

 

Bioware games have never had a full on sex scene, no idea why some people were expecting them now

It's not about 'give us full on sex, BW', it's more like 'could you please stop making those stupid things'? ME1 had never shown 'parts' (other than nipples...or what's left of those in UE), and it also had some clipping, but it made sense.

It's not the lack of nudity that kills those scenes, really. Let's talk Cullen.

 

- Cullen goes 'on top' wearing his heavy armor.

- Table was not comfy enough, so they had to move upstairs. To have some open-air sex in a mountain-top castle. Love warms, right...

- The Maker forbids blankets and shits, so the fully-dressed femQuiz takes a role of a 'scenery censor'.

 

I'd rather have a 'black screen' with a proper intro+aftermath (e.g. Anders in DA2 - tasteful, emotional, well-written and well-performed).

[Ilwerin]

Uhhh... feeling so victorian right now... and I live in a muslim country that's quite conservative.. I thought you westerners were supposed to be progressive and liberal and all....

Europeans surely are more liberal This seems to be issue in USA mostly (but with the largest player base I suppose). I don't get it either - sex is nothing like cutting someones throat. Besides, no one is forcing you to romance anyone.

 

But fading to black in right moment is far more better than "watching the show". We all have imagination. I liked sex scene in ME1 or that with Liara in ME3. But I really don't want to see anything like that in Witcher 2 in any BW game - it just seems too low. I would rather appreciate more of romantic content like kiss or touch throughout a game...

 

It's not about 'give us full on sex, BW', it's more like 'could you please stop making those stupid things'? ME1 had never shown 'parts' (other than nipples...or what's left of those in UE), and it also had some clipping, but it made sense.

It's not the lack of nudity that kills those scenes, really. Let's talk Cullen.

 

- Cullen goes 'on top' wearing his heavy armor.

- Table was not comfy enough, so they had to move upstairs. To have some open-air sex in a mountain-top castle. Love warms, right...

- The Maker forbids blankets and shits, so the fully-dressed femQuiz takes a role of a 'scenery censor'.

 

I'd rather have a 'black screen' with a proper intro+aftermath (e.g. Anders in DA2 - tasteful, emotional, well-written and well-performed).

Cannot agree more.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I'm somewhat put out that I didn't get to see my inquisitors bewbs during Cullens sex scene.

They're nearly in everyone else's, damn it!

And I want to make sure he is getting a good set......and I'm a total perve.

[Little Princess Peach]

Okay I remember reading on the ESRB or somewhere that the game contained suggestive scenes of people performing oral acts on someone (the Inquisitor?) Did the ESRB just see the Inquisition recruitment scenes with the elves (where they kneel before you) and assume it was something sexual? 

the romance scenes

[Dieb]

The big difference is that BioWare games depict scenes of "romance". Even if a scene does get a little heated, that is part of the participant's interpretation of romance and sensuality.

 

The Witcher and Game of Thrones mostly uses their more raunchy scenes to convey a sense of anarchy or tension, not love or tenderness.

 

From the ESRB site.

Spoiler

"This is a role-playing game in which players assume the role of a warrior battling evil forces in different dimensions. Characters use swords, axes, hammers, and magic attacks to kill fantastical creatures (e.g., demons, monsters, dwarfs) and humans in melee-style combat. Cutscenes sometimes depict characters impaled or getting their throats slit. Violent sequences are often highlighted by cries of pain, gurgling/gushing sounds, and large blood-splatter effects; blood remains on the ground in several environments. The game includes some sexual material: a female character briefly depicted in front of a man's torso (fellatio is implied); characters depicted topless or with exposed buttocks while lying in bed or after sex; some dialogue referencing sex/sexuality (e.g., “'I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this with great respect'” and “The way your t*ts bounce when I pin your arms and take you on the side of the bed…”). The words “f**k,” “sh*t,” and “a*shole” appear in dialogue"

 

Uhhh... feeling so victorian right now... and I live in a muslim country that's quite conservative.. I thought you westerners were supposed to be progressive and liberal and all....

 

Easy there, kimosabe.

 

All of these things I wouldn't give a child to play with. There is a difference in regulation and censorship/cultural indoctrination. Regulations are hardly a sign of a repressive society, as well as public displays of sexuality and extreme violence are in absolutely no way an uncanny sign of a progressive and liberal one. The analogy is about as reality-proof as the notion that adulthood means staying up all night & eating candy for breakfast.

 

I sincerely hope you will make these observation for yourself on your travels.

[Ianamus]

As far as I'm concerned there should not be actual sex scenes in games until the quality of the graphics and animation is such that it doesn't look completely ridiculous and and unappealing.

 

We are still quite a few years away fom that.

 

Also, there are far better things the animation and cinematic design people could be spending time on.

[aoibhealfae]

Stranger still... I thought games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect trilogies were quite tame than most PG-13 young adult american television these days. But they're definitely overreaching with their "violence" and "sexual reference". I guess seeing The Hunger Games or The Vampire Diaries can drive these people to an early grave or something..

 

I like ME1's brief sex scene which was definitely more sexy and tasteful (except for Liara's extra bits). 

[Toasted Llama]

I think any game from Mass Effect did the romance scenes better than DA. Really liked Liara's and Kaidan's (despite the underwear) scenes from ME3.

DA:O was awkward... like really, really, awkward, DA2 seemed somewhat too prudeish? can't really judge them properly, only done Fenrismance and seen some bits and pieces only from the others. DAI is... okay? I think? Could've been a tidbit better or more logical (I still dislike how my Inq is already dressed but Cullen is buttnaked after the fade-to-black... And Cassandra's pillow talk was a great mood killer! lol)


Fade to black, if timed correctly (after some kissing/touchy feely stuff), is the best way to display it, imho. No need to show the (dry) humping.

[Geth Supremacy]

No need to show the (dry) humping.

 

Every video game sex scene just became hilarious to me.

[Panda]

Personally I get why sexual things rise up rating, but I can't understand why curse words do. I guess that's just american thing, but cursing in my country is pretty usual and doesn't bring up age limit more than K-12, since teens already curse more than you could ever encounter on tv. Even  weirder to me is that we can't curse on the forums and use even simplest words that are part at least my english day-to-day vocabulary, wtf is up with that ^^;

[caradoc2000]

From the ESRB site.

Uhhh... feeling so victorian right now... and I live in a muslim country that's quite conservative.. I thought you westerners were supposed to be progressive and liberal and all....

 

Europeans surely are more liberal This seems to be issue in USA mostly (but with the largest player base I suppose). I don't get it either - sex is nothing like cutting someones throat. Besides, no one is forcing you to romance anyone.

Indeed, The PEGI classification for DAI only has Extreme Violence and Strong Language keywords.

[Urzon]

From the ESRB site.

Spoiler

"This is a role-playing game in which players assume the role of a warrior battling evil forces in different dimensions. Characters use swords, axes, hammers, and magic attacks to kill fantastical creatures (e.g., demons, monsters, dwarfs) and humans in melee-style combat. Cutscenes sometimes depict characters impaled or getting their throats slit. Violent sequences are often highlighted by cries of pain, gurgling/gushing sounds, and large blood-splatter effects; blood remains on the ground in several environments. The game includes some sexual material: a female character briefly depicted in front of a man's torso (fellatio is implied); characters depicted topless or with exposed buttocks while lying in bed or after sex; some dialogue referencing sex/sexuality (e.g., “'I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this with great respect'” and “The way your t*ts bounce when I pin your arms and take you on the side of the bed…”). The words “f**k,” “sh*t,” and “a*shole” appear in dialogue"

Characters depicted topless and exposed buttocks?

OH MAKER, THE HORROR!!!

(Consult my profile pic for my reaction)

[vertigomez]

Waitaminit. That ESRB summary said there was implied fellatio, but I'm 90% sure there wasn't.

Uh... not that there needs to be. But still. What are they referring to?