(Also I'm really confused about this. Are there people in this forum who roleplay as elf-haters or faithful Andrastians or Tevinter lovers as opposed to giving their actual truthful opinion?)
I can't tell when it comes to Warder. 
For the others, I give them the benefit of the doubt.
btw, a rather fair and balanced post.
I think it's mostly certain people love to try to make elves fans angry. There's a reason every elf thread is overrun with trolls. I imagine for a lot of people it's an extension of arguing online one way or another about social justice.
In my opinion, both sides are at fault for the war.
...
So in short, yes the elves were at fault for Red Crossing (due to making a terrible mistake) and the humans were the ones who probably escalated that into a full scale war. And both sides (but especially the Chantry) twist things to suit their own purposes.
You think both sides were wrong?
This is entirely too rational and logical a conclusion to belong in an elf thread. Forum custom dictates you pick a side and cling doggedly to it no matter how willfully blind this makes you and never ever ever waver in your opinion even if you are presented with irrefutable proof you are wrong about something. 
I can't believe I wrote this much on a fictional historical incidence involving a fictional race and a fictional land.
That feeling goes away in time. 
(Also I'm really confused about this. Are there people in this forum who roleplay as elf-haters or faithful Andrastians or Tevinter lovers as opposed to giving their actual truthful opinion?)
You can't prove anything! 
Truly it is the Maker's work
I just wish the Maker was alive to see this.
It's really not. Or rather, it is different from the point of view of how much moral blame the fans think can be ascribed to the Dales because of this notion that the Emerald Knights in some way are truly representatives of the Dalish. But it's really meaningless.Ok the whole root of this particular argument is that I argued that both sides were at fault for the situation escalating out of control and that the elves didn't destroy the whole town because they wanted all humans dead.
The point I was trying to make is that the story of "a party of elves went to Red Crossing to retrieve one of their own and then killed many of the town militia in self defense after a misunderstanding that spiraled out of control" is a very different story than "a party of elves went to Red Crossing with the intent destroy the entire town so they razed it to ground and wiped out every man, woman and child."
I just wish the Maker was alive to see this.
So....has it been agreed yet that the Dales were at fault for starting the war with Orlais?
So....has it been agreed yet that the Dales were at fault for starting the war with Orlais?
By most, yes. There will always be Dalish apologists out there.
So....has it been agreed yet that the Dales were at fault for starting the war with Orlais?
You act as if any person in the history of any thread about this has changed the mind of another.
In a nut shell...
It was a series of catastrophic fukups on both sides that led to the Red Crossing incident.
/thread
Thanks for playing! 
Which Orlesian "**** ups" specifically lead to Red Crossing?
Which Orlesian "**** ups" specifically lead to Red Crossing?
Living in Red Crossing.
Obviously. 
Living in Red Crossing.
Obviously.
Oh damn... And being so damn sexy of course..
Damn sexy humans....
Living in Red Crossing.
Obviously.
Which Orlesian "**** ups" specifically lead to Red Crossing?
Trying to convert Elves to worship the Maker when Elves are trying to reclaim and rebuild their own culture after its genocide at Tevinter's hand.
Trying to convert Elves to worship the Maker when Elves are trying to reclaim and rebuild their own culture after its genocide at Tevinter's hand.
A: No actual evidence exist that the CHANTRY (read: Not Orlais), ever sent emisarries into the Dales.
B: The Dalish Elves have just as much a right to religious freedom as anybody else, so if a Dalish wanted to covnert, then they should be allowed to.
C: The Chantry, contrary to popular Dalish apologist belief, is not the same as Orlais.
D: The Arlathan Evles destroyed their own nation, Tevinter simple scooped up the bits and pieces left over.
Trying to convert Elves to worship the Maker when Elves are trying to reclaim and rebuild their own culture after its genocide at Tevinter's hand.
Dean is female?
Why do you think I always got weirded out by your fanboy gasms?
Does it matter?
I want Dean babies.
You know, I've been raised as a possible Bioware love interest candidate in the past...
Trying to convert Elves to worship the Maker when Elves are trying to reclaim and rebuild their own culture after its genocide at Tevinter's hand.
First of all, no one was trying to force that on them. Second, the does not justify their isolation.
3rd, and this is a big one, EVERY THING THEY SETUP FOR THEIR CULTURE IS WRONG. 4th, the elves did not even try for peace.
5th, the ancient elves did it to themselves.
You know, I've been raised as a possible Bioware love interest candidate in the past...
In a nut shell...
It was a series of catastrophic fukups on both sides that led to the Red Crossing incident.
/thread
Thanks for playing!
And one side was not even trying to end things peacefully.
Why do I get the feeling this is not a joke?
Because I'm awesome and would be something other than a goody two-shoes romance without being remarkably self-absorbed/narcissistic/sociopathic/woobie like many of the other 'darker and edgier' romances.
We had a good couple pages going on a thread at one point. It was awesome. Just remember the moral of Dean's online approach to gender identification:
A wise woman asks, 'Is it a trap?'
A wise man asks, 'Does it matter? It has a hole.'
But a rich trap asks 'How much money are you willing to pay to find out?'
(Unfortunately I am not rich.)
Dean for LI in DA4? 
Dez Greatly Approves
Now I want to find that thread.
Tickles the edges of my memory so I think it might have been during one of my stalker lurker phases. ![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
Dean won't be an lie in DAIV. He'll be an LI in DAV's Citadel-esque dlc.
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