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How does everyone feel about the romance system in DAI?  Do you like the sexuality of the characters being at the forefront and such a large part of the game?  How about the split of an even number of romances?  Do you think the story should come first and how it lands as it develops is what it is....Or the set guideline of each type of romance getting an equal amount and working around that?

 

How would you like to see it improved or changed?  (For future games.)



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How does everyone feel about the romance system in DAI?  Do you like the sexuality of the characters being at the forefront and such a large part of the game?  How about the split of an even number of romances?  Do you think the story should come first and how it lands as it develops is what it is....Or the set guideline of each type of romance getting an equal amount and working around that?

 

How would you like to see it improved or changed? 

 

How are their sexualities at the forefront?



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How are their sexualities at the forefront?

 

If I answer your question will you answer the OP?

 

When I played DAI the way I played it I found the amount of content that had to do with sexuality as a whole was much more than I had experienced in previous DA game.  DAI was the first DA game that I saw nudity in.  I don't remember any quest in any other DA touching on a characters sexual preference. In DAI there was.  I found the subject of sex came up more without prodding from the player than in other games.



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I thought it was done perfectly, 10/10, A++ would smooch ALL these cuties.

And with that, I am outta here 'cause I know exaaactly where these threads go. C'est la guerre. :ph34r:
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This thread.... not going to end well.

 

What you are asking is irrelevant, as no changes to DAI will happen regarding any of the romances or the system.



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This thread.... not going to end well.

 

What you are asking is irrelevant, as no changes to DAI will happen regarding any of the romances or the system.

 

While I didn't say it.  I meant changes to the system in future games not DAI. That is my fault for not clarifying.  It's meant for the future though.

 

This thread could very well get locked.  That depends on the posters.



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As for the OP, I'm fine with the current system though an even split might be best next time



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I want there to be less Romances with more variety. Iron Bull's was breaking the mold in that you aren't the one 'in charge' for the relationship, unless I've read up on that wrong. But otherwise, it's the player who initiates. Always.

I'd like there to be a companion in a future game that, if you meet 'their' criteria, they'll attempt to romance you instead. Perhaps even try once or twice more if you refuse them the first time. Don't care about sexualities and 'being diverse' with them, it's the nature of the romances themselves I'm interested in seeing diversity in.

H***, I'd like there to also be a character that you can attempt to romance regardless, and they reject you. I know we have a few (Vivienne), but I mean an actual legitimate long term Romantic Attempt that ends in failure no matter what. Why? Because sometimes someone's not interested even if you match their whatevers.

The concept of an 'Even Split' makes less sense to me also: if you're trying to even things out for the player that's just silly. Likewise if you try and have it set up to be an uneven split. It should be about the characters and not affected by 'Oh, we need to meet out quota of 'X' romances! Quick, lets get another one in there! Oh, let's cut this one out to even the numbers!"

 

. . .honestly, it's not the system that's the problem, mechanic-wise.


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It doesn't really bother me what "system" they use.

I see the romances as an added bonus and as to the characters sexuality, I will simply role play the required sex if I want someone as an LI.
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This thread could very well get locked.  That depends on the posters.


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It's fine.



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I'm perfectly fine with how things went in DAI.

 

RE sexuality being at the "forefront": other than Dorian's specific quest -- a first for the DA franchise, and is honestly more about parental issues than anything else, his sexuality being a component of this rather than the crux -- I didn't really see any significant increase in the type of sexual content from the previous two games, particularly DAO which had actual sex scenes (as awkward as those were).

 

These are all adults. Some of these adults are more sexual than others. Those sexual adults make bawdy remarks about sex according to their nature and feelings about sex. There were similar remarks from DAO and DA2 followers.

 

Also, it should be kept in mind that DAI has the highest amount of romances in the entire series, so it's going to come out ahead in total volume, even if it's similar percentage-wise when you take into account the companion:follower romance ratio and compare with with the other games.


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I actually rather liked that you could flirt with anyone regardless of their orientation - even if it didn't always work out for your Quizzy. XD It was nice, made the romances feel more natural, and put a bit more control into the hands of the character rather than their romantic interest.

 

I think an even number of options next time couldn't hurt, either. I benefited this time around, really, but!

Although, I'd rather Bioware puts out the cast they wish to than cater, if that's what it comes down too? Fine line, there.

 

Hum. More generally in terms of companion relationships, I did kinda miss the rivalry/friendship options we were given in DA2. That system offered more replay value, and I liked how it ultimately effected how the companion turned out by the end of the game, with Anders and his feelings about what he had done, Aveline's position in the gaurd and marriage (or lack thereof), etc. It was a very interesting feature that was unique to DA2, so I was sad to see it lacking in DA:I. If Bioware could offer something more like that in future installments, I certainly wouldn't complain.

 

Overall, I was pretty satisfied? Hum. More cutscenes would be nice! XD More cinematic cam like we were given before, perhaps? Just... more time with our team, really. Always a plus!


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I like the current system, by which I mean that I think it's good there are now straight, bi/pan and gay characters in the game that can be romanced. The only character whose sexuality comes up in relation to the plot is Dorian, and I thought that was fine.

 

As for the split - as long as everyone has at  least two options regardless of their character's gender, sexual preference or race I'm cool with it. There isn't actually an even split in DAI. Female humans who are into men get on extra option, and female elves who are into men get two.



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I like the current system, by which I mean that I think it's good there are now straight, bi/pan and gay characters in the game that can be romanced. The only character whose sexuality comes up in relation to the plot is Dorian, and I thought that was fine.

 

As for the split - as long as everyone has at  least two options regardless of their character's gender, sexual preference or race I'm cool with it. There isn't actually an even split in DAI. Female humans who are into men get on extra option, and female elves who are into men get two.

 

Well, considering ME3... I think it's fair , that the girls got more options this time around.

 

As for the current system? Meh don't like it too much variety, not enough quality.


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I would personally wish that romance would be more than just sex scenes. I want romance for my characters not sex for them.


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I don't think sexuality (a vague term, tbh) was at the forefront anymore than any other Bioware games. I've only just started Dorian's romance, but his personal quest was the only time sexuality comes up in a quest. Each LI had a 'romance quest' but that was far more about the romance than the sex. The only other person where sex was a big deal was Bull (especially with a chunk of his romance being all about BDSM).

 

Compare that to Zevran and Isabela previously, who had a lot of conversations regarding sex. There's also the "friends with benefits" thing with Isabela/Zevran, and a few references to Aveline/Donnic. DAO also had a few references to Alistair's virginal state too.

 

Meanwhile in the ME series, sex and sexuality comes up with the alien LIs. You even get a conversation with Mordin advising about it! And then there's Jack. If you play a female Shepard, trying to befriend her, she will eventually ask if this is because you want to have sex with her, and then drop the issue. If you play a male Shepard, the issue comes up repeatedly.

 

As far as the LI split goes, I'd prefer an even number: 2/2/2. One straight, one bi, one gay, of each gender.



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I thought it was done perfectly, 10/10, A++ would smooch ALL these cuties.

 

^ This!

 

and as to the characters sexuality, I will simply role play the required sex if I want someone as an LI.

 

^ and this!

 

I even loved the race-gating tbh.


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I would have liked to disagree with my LI on some things without it breaking the relationship.

 

I would have preferred the relationship grow based on dialogues instead of approval. 

 

Other than that, I'm happy with the way things are. I don't mind having to play a certain race/gender/orientation to see all the different romance content, and I loved that I could still flirt with certain characters even when there was no possibility of romance, for example: Scout Harding. that said, get on that Harding romance content, Bio, ok? Thank you.


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I think romances should have its own meter so to speak. So that way if you are pro circle losing approval from your anti circle romance won't effect your RP. Concern over your LI approval can effect your RP if you just try to avoid disapproval. other then that i think the romances in DAI was fine.

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Disliked the set gated sexuality approach. Would vastly prefer a return to ambiguity that existed with many in DA2.

Disliked split of LI where one orientation group got double the potential LI than others.

 

As to what else i would like changed. I'd still like to see deeper content. In DAI we got gated increase in numbers but not depth.


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I think that offering romance options for everyone is hard, but that everyone still deserves a choice. Picking from one and nothing is a rubbish choice and picking from characters of a gender you aren't attracted to is a rubbish choice and somewhat exclusive. So I think the most important thing is that every player character can romance at least two characters of each gender.

 

Inquisition provided this, and the romance content I've seen seems pretty okay, so I think it did well overall. If I were to complain I'd take issue with the approval system and agency in dialogue, but they're broader issues with the game and not romance specific.



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It's not supposed to replace your sex life. Look at Witcher 3, sex everywhere. Devs had too much time to themselves, and their hands weren't on their keyboards at all times.


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It's not supposed to replace your sex life. Look at Witcher 3, sex everywhere. Devs had too much time to themselves, and their hands weren't on their keyboards at all times.

 

I think the way DAI handled the romances was perfect. It was clean and optional. 

 

I like romance content, but honestly, I prefer they keep it clean and only a tad significant while developing the important parts of the game. After all (and I know I'll get a retort for this) this is a action rpg, not a dating sim. 


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