I used to like the romance system which DA series have but now I'm not sure about it. I guess it's because I'm not sure exactly how the system works and how much I can disagree with my LI. This leads to a situation where I make decisions based on their approval and avoid decision which gives me disapproval and I would like to play the game without worrying that my romance will fail because of the low approval. This doesn't mean that my LI should always approve of my decisions. I think there should be decisions which they should not approve and which could lead to a break-up. Anyway if the romance system would be the same in the next game then I would like that there would be also some other ways to improve their approval than decisions you make such as limited amount of gifts or spending time with them.
The current romance system.
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#77
Posté 23 mai 2015 - 05:02
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I used to like the romance system which DA series have but now I'm not sure about it. I guess it's because I'm not sure exactly how the system works and how much I can disagree with my LI. This leads to a situation where I make decisions based on their approval and avoid decision which gives me disapproval and I would like to play the game without worrying that my romance will fail because of the low approval. This doesn't mean that my LI should always approve of my decisions. I think there should be decisions which they should not approve and which could lead to a break-up. Anyway if the romance system would be the same in the next game then I would like that there would be also some other ways to improve their approval than decisions you make such as limited amount of gifts or spending time with them.
Then say what you want. If they don't like you...well, that's their character. I don't get why everyone thinks they and all the other characters save the villain need to all get along 100%. If you want to think of it another way, it's the other character's problem if they don't like what the player does, so **** their opinion.
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Posté 23 mai 2015 - 05:17
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But what I really really want is a proper bad guy/girl romance. Not someone with a soft centre and/or a tormented past, but someone genuinely only out for themselves who decides they like the PC enough to include them in their plans. I think it would be fun
It wouldn't have worked in Inquisition really but in a more personal story I think it could
I think you mean:
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#79
Posté 23 mai 2015 - 05:32
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Then say what you want. If they don't like you...well, that's their character. I don't get why everyone thinks they and all the other characters save the villain need to all get along 100%. If you want to think of it another way, it's the other character's problem if they don't like what the player does, so **** their opinion.
It would be my problem too if I want to romance a certain LI but it fails when I disaggree with him too much and I don't know that the romance has failed 
It would be frustrating to realize after playing 20 hours that the romance has failed. Anyway I'm not worried that I don't get along with my companions unless the person is my LI.
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Posté 23 mai 2015 - 09:16
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It would be my problem too if I want to romance a certain LI but it fails when I disaggree with him too much and I don't know that the romance has failed
I'd have thought it would be intuitive that if you don't get along with a character, they won't be interested in you.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 02:15
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Then say what you want. If they don't like you...well, that's their character. I don't get why everyone thinks they and all the other characters save the villain need to all get along 100%. If you want to think of it another way, it's the other character's problem if they don't like what the player does, so **** their opinion.
Yeah. I play a character and hope things don't end up too catastrophically bad. I am rather proud that in multiple playthroughs of the entire series I only have one game that didn't result in someone leaving me, being left by me or murdered by me. More fun this way.
Someday you'll get your redemption, Thom. I swear. It's just not going to be this playthrough either.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 10:23
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I'd have thought it would be intuitive that if you don't get along with a character, they won't be interested in you.
I was talking about a situation where you get along quite well with a certain companion but once in while you disagree with him/her and you make couple of decisions which they don't like. You can't see anywhere how much the companion likes you or is the romance locked or is it activated at all.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 11:12
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I am so in favor of this.
He should be a Tevinter.
Maybe...a Ander
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#84
Posté 24 mai 2015 - 11:48
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I think people care too much about romances... It aint healthy...
#85
Posté 24 mai 2015 - 12:18
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I think people care too much about romances... It aint healthy...
Is it really not healthy for some of us to want our characters to have actual romances like we would have had/want to have?
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 01:37
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Is it really not healthy for some of us to want our characters to have actual romances like we would have had/want to have?
It isn't healthy caring about it to such a degree, as a lot of frequenters on this forum does.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 03:03
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Maybe...a Ander
An Ander Seeker?
I think people care too much about romances... It aint healthy...
I'm sure there is a point where the concern over romanceable characters becomes unhealthy. Personally, I'd consider unhealthy when one starts spamming multiple different forum sites with posts and threads about the the shape of their heads. Usually, however, I don't think you can determine a person's degree of focus on an issue by seeing them casually discuss that issue. I don't think the people who spend hours discussing and playing the multiplayer game are necessarily taking it to unhealthy extremes, for example, though doing so is certainly possible.
On the other hand, I think there's a common perception that everyone who likes the romances does so as a form of wish fulfillment, when that's not true. Some people just like to explore different character arcs.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 04:30
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I'm sure there is a point where the concern over romanceable characters becomes unhealthy. Personally, I'd consider unhealthy when one starts spamming multiple different forum sites with posts and threads about the the shape of their heads. Usually, however, I don't think you can determine a person's degree of focus on an issue by seeing them casually discuss that issue. I don't think the people who spend hours discussing and playing the multiplayer game are necessarily taking it to unhealthy extremes, for example, though doing so is certainly possible.
On the other hand, I think there's a common perception that everyone who likes the romances does so as a form of wish fulfillment, when that's not true. Some people just like to explore different character arcs.
Aye, the reason I'm in favour of romancing previous potential LI's is only because I think it'd be fun to explore that romance arc from a different perspective, since often people change over the years and so the type of relationship they'd have with another protagonist would be different enough to be interesting?
Leliana for instance is a comrade-in-arms of the Warden, has authority over Hawke as the Left Hand of the Divine, while is at first a superior, then subordinate of the Inquisitor, all three vastly different starting points if you were approaching any potential relationship between those characters?
Not saying that they should do that, just that I like the idea of it.
Maybe...a Ander
I dunno, our last relationship with an Ander didn't work out so well?
We do need to go to the Anderfels at some point, they sound like a such a grim bunch living in an absolutely depressing place, I can't help but want to know more about them? They sound like the Men of the North from ASOIAF, if they happened to live in Mordor?
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 05:03
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It isn't healthy caring about it to such a degree, as a lot of frequenters on this forum does.
Have you ever been part of a fandom?
This is typical.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 05:27
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What I find unhealthy around here are the absolute minor non-issues that some people just get ape-shite nasty about, or go off the deep end over.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:02
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Have you ever been part of a fandom?
This is typical.
I'm on the forum aren't I? But there is "fandom" and then there is "obsession". Giving the romance practically more importance than the game itself, I would classify as obsession, and an unhealthy one at that.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:07
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I'm on the forum aren't I? But there is "fandom" and then there is "obsession". Giving the romance practically more importance than the game itself, I would classify as obsession, and an unhealthy one at that.
Again, this is typical.
There's a reason most fanfiction are romances between the authors' favourite characters.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:12
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I think the system is fine. Does that mean I agree with every single aspect to it? Not necessarily. But the formula has been field-tested and works; if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:32
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Again, this is typical.
There's a reason most fanfiction are romances between the authors' favourite characters.
Regularity does not absolve the unhealthy.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:38
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I'm on the forum aren't I? But there is "fandom" and then there is "obsession". Giving the romance practically more importance than the game itself, I would classify as obsession, and an unhealthy one at that.
Regularity does not absolve the unhealthy.
Opinions...everyone has at least one. You think it's unhealthy, don't assume everyone will agree with you (it's obvious they don't).
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:40
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Regularity does not absolve the unhealthy.
But why is it unhealthy? Do you have some actually evidence that shipping has some kind of negative impact on ... well, anything?
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:41
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Opinions...everyone has at least one. You think it's unhealthy, don't assume everyone will agree with you (it's obvious they don't).
I once had the opnion that smoking was cool. Didn't make it any less unhealthy though.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:41
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But why is it unhealthy? Do you have some actually evidence that shipping has some kind of negative impact on ... well, anything?
I didn't say that harmless shipping was unhealthy now did I? I said that the degree that SOME people take the romance to, in these game, is unhealthy.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:46
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I didn't say that harmless shipping was unhealthy now did I? I said that the degree that SOME people take the romance to, in these game, is unhealthy.
And you are basing your determination of health on?
Do you have a doctorate in psychology and this is your professional opinion? Or are you just assuming so based on personal experience somewhere in your life?
Please, inquiring minds want to know! IOW, pics or it didn't happen.
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Posté 24 mai 2015 - 06:55
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And you are basing your determination of health on?
Do you have a doctorate in psychology and this is your professional opinion? Or are you just assuming so based on personal experience somewhere in your life?
Please, inquiring minds want to know! IOW, pics or it didn't happen.
The mere fact that you go on the defensive like this, and act semi-offended, would be more than enough for a psychiatrist to go to town over. You know that, right?
ANY obsession about the immaterial, ESPECIALLY the fictive, is not a healthy state of mind. I've seen people do some disturbed ****, because they were so obsessed with their romantic novel, that they self-inserted them into it, and actually thought that they were the main character being romanced by the characters of the book.
But hey, since I don't have a degree in psychology, who am I to say that this sort of behavior is unhealthy?
