I am playing a Warrior and my party is Alistair, me, Morrigan and Leliana. I have now got the choice to keep my party or drop one and take Wynn. I don't really have a healer but i like my party and the bitching they give each other.
So do i really need Wynn or can i do without her.
you can spec the majority of mages within DA to be healers you don't have to take the one that's set up to be one. If you're managing fine without one then that's a good thing I guess. Just make suer you have enough health potions to cover you because with a healer you don't have to rely so much on them, w3hereas you may well have to without one.
I tend to use the same makeup of team as the OP as well 1 mage 1 rogue (usually ranged) and 2 warriors
I agree @luna1124 I tend to spec myself as the healer with one of my specializations when playing as a mage and I tend to play as a mage most as I prefer to keep my enemies at range. Playing as a warrior atm so playing a different way to what I'm used to.Haven't got Wynne yet as I haven't done the mage tower but planning on that today once I'm finished in Redcliffe.
^^I prefer to play a mage also^^ I have played most of the classes, rogue archer, dual weapon, warrior great -sword, sword and board, warrior archer etc..
The only thing I have not played is a warrior dual weapon. (unless you count Arcane Warrior) 
On my first playthrough I played a warrior and I accidentally killed Wynne at the Circle. I was okay without her. I didn't completely level Morrigan into a healer, but I had her know some healing stuff.
Just make sure you have enough potions for whenever you get into a jam.
yeah I agree @miss golightly you do either need plenty of health potions or a healer or even both sometimes as there are some really tough combat sections in Origins especially Orzammar as that's a nightmare to negotiate which is kind of why I tend to wait till as late as possible before I do that section so I can level up as much as possible. I've never killed Wynne but then I've only ever properly beaten the game once and that was ironically my last playthrough which I did as a mage. That's kind of why I'm now having a go as a warrior to see if I can do it as something else now that I've figured out the mechanics and how the game works.
I recommend it, but you can always give Morrigan the Spirit Healer specialization.
^^Me too, if I'm not playing a mage myself...I have made Morrigan a healer^^
To me, shape-shifter is just.. ho-hum.....
It is a matter of personal taste, and built right, shapeshifters can be one of the most effective specializations and add a lot to a mage build. Not to mention it's a lot of fun seeing a Swarm mage take down Cauthrien.
Morrigan can be a decent healer, but she's significantly behind on spellpower/mana/creation spells and needs to do a lot to catch up to Wynne. There are always spirit healers around, so it's not something I think much as far as building her toward that role.
You can use healing potions to do that sort of healing instead of use a support mage, but there are a lot of Creation spells that can be useful to a party. I think Shale adds a lot to a party, but it's a tough call on having a support healer or Shale as the fourth member of the party.
I personally prefer Shale to be used as an extra option on the Warrior front personally not as a replacement for a mage as I prefer having 2 sitting back mostly for cover fire and keeping the enemy distracted
I personally prefer Shale to be used as an extra option on the Warrior front personally not as a replacement for a mage as I prefer having 2 sitting back mostly for cover fire and keeping the enemy distracted
I use his last ability to add multiple effects like +10 Spellpower and +12 stamina/mana regen bonus. My parties are all about having members in who boost my shapeshifter's critical chance/damage. My 2 rogues add Song of Courage, and Shale does the buffing in a certain radius.It's a tough call because of all a mage adds, but in that situation I'm ok with losing the support mage.
Now whether my mage should pick up more support spells to take the place of a 2nd one, build strength to the point I don't need the arcane warrior spec to equip weapons and armor-that's a separate issue. The spirit healer spec is very useful, and it's a tough call not having access to those spells.
Thanks for the replies. It would be a shame to loose Morrigan from my party. i enjoy her bitching with Alistair and some of their remarks are really funny. I was thinking of trying nightmare as playing with my warrior on hard is not that challenging. And i wondered if an out and out healer was needed on nightmare i will look at Morrigan as my party healer.
I'm replaying on nightmare now and killed Wynne in the circle. Its much easier than I thought so far without a healer - however as a substitute to any healing spells my character is a mage with force field. I use that spell as a back up if somebody isn't going to get a health poultice down in time. I think just having the basic heal spell or force field spell on morrigan will help you quite a lot, you don't need anything more than that. Its not easy with no healer but there is many people who did the game only with poultices
True @Yumakooma I know 1 or 2 people who have done the game without using any mages as well. I personally don't think I would though because I like options and I like having the option of being able to sit back and deal with a situation at range without having to go up close and tbh I find mages are probably the best option for that. Which is why I would always take at least 1 mage in my team if I'm not playing as one myself. In fact in one of my fights last night I went down and had to use Wynne's powers to revive me so generally I'm happy to have a mage in the team.
TBH I find the only negative about being a mage is you're easier to bring down but I think the fact they can do a pretty good amount of damage and at range too far outweighs that negative.
I agree @luna1124 I don't think I'd ever kill her unless I was doing a renegade run
It depends: If you're very unexperienced with Origins or party-based RPGs in general a healing mage can be very useful. When I played Origins for the very first time, it became a lot easier after getting Wynne. But once you get better, a dedicated healer is only necessary in the two encounters with high dragons. You're tanking warrior is simply taking too much damage there, which results in the need of constant healing.
The rest of the game I usually take two DD warriors (one of them being myself), Leliana and Morrigan. If you take enough healing potions with you and take the "Heal" and "Regeneration" spells with Morrigan, you'll be able to heal in a sufficent manner while overwhelming most enemies in a really short time because of your groups ability to deal massive amounts of damage, resulting in a more interesting and smoother playthrough.
Agreed @Damdil I think it depends on the situation and what works best for you. I generally play on easy as with my disability playing on high levels is almost like commiting suicide as I'd never manage it. Also I find Origins for me the hardest of the DA games as I beat 2 and Inquistion on my first attempt whereas it has taken me several attempts to master Origins. In fact I hadn't beaten Origins until earlier this ye4ar after I got the strategy guides. I got them for 2 and DAI as well but those games I found moer straightforward so didn't need to refer to them so much. ||The only times I have done are for the Astrariums and the Temple of Mythal puzzles as I did find some of those complicated. I like a challenge but I generally prefer a challenge that I think I can rise too. Tht's also why I tend to have a healing mage in my group as it does help simplify things
I never killed Wynne on any play-through, even on renegades runs (although I admit I never made a lot of them). But I have always needed someone with Healing Talents... whether its Wynne or Morrigan or sometimes my PC (if a mage).
Neither have I @Jeffonl1 as I've generally found Wynne too useful but then having said that I've not done any Renegade playthroughs on DA . I have on Mass Effect as I've done at least 2 renegade style runs that I can remember one a soldier the other adept both male though. But I've not done one for DA yet. I may do eventually but it's not top of my agenda atm.
You need someone who can cast the Spirit Healer spells Group Heal and Revive, maybe even two people who can. I've lost track of the number of times Leliana has had to be Revived because she got hit with a status affect she never recovered from.
yeah @mike3207 I also have that problem a lot with Sten too seem to manage well with my other warriors though
Yeah, warriors should normally increase strength/dex which will increase your physical resistance or have pluses to it on your armor. I favor a 60/60 build for warriors for origins, going full strength or pretty close in Awakenings. My problem was that I had forgotten to give any Hale runes to my rogues, and without sufficient physical resistance that's going to happen a lot. Early on that should happen with Sten, but as long as you continue putting points into strength for him it should be less of a problem for him.
Agreed mike that's pretty much what I do and have been doing as I am making progress through the game as a warrior and for now that's the main thing for me as this is really my first full on attempt as a warrior I've tried before but never got that far with it.
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