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[Puzzlewell]

I'm definitely very much looking forward to this one. Huge fan of cyberpunk here and while I haven't played the PnP myself, it should help fill a void we still don't have a whole lot of as far as cyberpunk RPGs are concerned with gaming.

[Fast Jimmy]

I'm just big on cyberpunk as a whole -- Not particularly sci-fi, as in the equivalent of space-operas, but rather the distant future conspiracy, human advancement and corrupt underworld kind of sci-fi that is Cyberpunk (William Gibson, Stephenson, Blade Runner etc)

So, I'm definitely looking forward to this game.

I read this about five times as "Mel Gibson."

[TheChris92]

I read this about five times as "Mel Gibson."

Mad Max in a Cyberpunkish future, eh?

[Chewin]

I'm definitely very much looking forward to this one. Huge fan of cyberpunk here and while I haven't played the PnP myself, it should help fill a void we still don't have a whole lot of as far as cyberpunk RPGs are concerned with gaming.

 

What this lovely person said. 

 

Cyberpunk is one of my favorite genres, so I am very intrigued what CDPR will deliver with this upcoming installment. Been quiet for years now on any major news, so looking forward to anything new during the upcoming days / weeks / months / years.

[Vortex13]

Basic examples of the top of my head, but yes, Shadowrun is good too. Dragonfall is excellent.

 

 

Shadowrun: Hong Kong is coming out this year, I can't wait to download my copy. 

[Paragon Gabriel]

Well based on the trailer, I am excited. Though gonna wait and see what more the game will have to offer.

[Vortex13]

What this lovely person said. 

 

Cyberpunk is one of my favorite genres, so I am very intrigued what CDPR will deliver with this upcoming installment. Been quiet for years now on any major news, so looking forward to anything new during the upcoming days / weeks / months / years.

 

 

I enjoy Cyberpunk as well. I wouldn't be able to say that it is my favorite sic-fi genre, since I am an all round sci-fi nerd, but I will say that I like Cyberpunk 2020/2077 and Shadowrun's take on it a little more than games like Deus Ex.

 

 

The reason being, I don't find the overt themes of transhumanism to be as compelling in my opinion. Sure, the question of what you lose as you chop your arms and legs off, and the dangers of becoming a Cyber Phsyco/ Cyber Zombie are ever present, but it should be something on an individual basis, not something that the entire plot should be based around. 

 

When my Tech goes into a clinic to have his hand removed and replaced with a piece of hardware with six fingers (two thumbs, one on each side of the hand) and 8 doctor octopus-esque robotic attachments the story shouldn't focus about how my character is now less human. In his mind he got a better appendage, one that helps him in his line of work; no different really than getting a better tool kit or a stronger gun.

[Dobbysaurus]

I see boobs. So I'll definitely want to play this.

[Fast Jimmy]

I see boobs. So I'll definitely want to play this.

Male cis-gendered scum!

[Vortex13]

IIRC, CDPR used an adult entertainment actress as the model for the cyber-phsyco in the trailer.

[Captain Crash]

I think the old thread is still relevant here as despite the last post being in June 2013, very little else has happened  

 

http://forum.bioware...cyberpunk-2077/

 

 

I remember watching an Angry Joe video a few months back where he interviewed one of the developers on the Witcher and asked about Cyberpunk.  I recall him saying that at this moment (6-12months ago) it was little more then concept art and ideas as full focus is on the Wild Hunt.  For a couple more months at least I expect that is the case, but seeing how long development time is taking and the amount of content they still want to create for the Witcher I expect we wont see this game til the end of the decade.

 

Really early announcement

 

 

[Chewin]

I enjoy Cyberpunk as well. I wouldn't be able to say that it is my favorite sic-fi genre, since I am an all round sci-fi nerd, but I will say that I like Cyberpunk 2020/2077 and Shadowrun's take on it a little more than games like Deus Ex.
 
 
The reason being, I don't find the overt themes of transhumanism to be as compelling in my opinion. Sure, the question of what you lose as you chop your arms and legs off, and the dangers of becoming a Cyber Phsyco/ Cyber Zombie are ever present, but it should be something on an individual basis, not something that the entire plot should be based around. 
 
When my Tech goes into a clinic to have his hand removed and replaced with a piece of hardware with six fingers (two thumbs, one on each side of the hand) and 8 doctor octopus-esque robotic attachments the story shouldn't focus about how my character is now less human. In his mind he got a better appendage, one that helps him in his line of work; no different really than getting a better tool kit or a stronger gun.

Depends on how they are portrayed, but I can see your point of view. I do think that they are an integral aspect to explore (of course depends on the medium and what it wants to tell and to what extent), but I can share your opinion on the plot solely revolving around it. I personally am interested in different forms of social order that the setting takes up (which aren't radical forms of utopian or dystopian systems) and what kind of influence technological advancement has had on society as a whole.

But generally what I appreciate the most is how a story can explore different avenues and integrate several causes and concepts into it to convey, which naturally offers a broader scope rather than restricting itself to a single factor (like transhumanism, as you said).

[TheChris92]

I enjoy Cyberpunk as well. I wouldn't be able to say that it is my favorite sic-fi genre, since I am an all round sci-fi nerd, but I will say that I like Cyberpunk 2020/2077 and Shadowrun's take on it a little more than games like Deus Ex.

 

 

The reason being, I don't find the overt themes of transhumanism to be as compelling in my opinion. Sure, the question of what you lose as you chop your arms and legs off, and the dangers of becoming a Cyber Phsyco/ Cyber Zombie are ever present, but it should be something on an individual basis, not something that the entire plot should be based around. 

 

When my Tech goes into a clinic to have his hand removed and replaced with a piece of hardware with six fingers (two thumbs, one on each side of the hand) and 8 doctor octopus-esque robotic attachments the story shouldn't focus about how my character is now less human. In his mind he got a better appendage, one that helps him in his line of work; no different really than getting a better tool kit or a stronger gun.

The theme of human augmentation already exists in our society, we already wear spectacles and a phone, so any question of it being unnatural as demonstrated by the anti-augmentalists in Human Revolution is entirely redundant. In of itself, it raises a rather fascinating discussion on human nature, which mixes elements of detective novels/noir with that of conspiracies, corruption and shady characters etc.

[CrazyRah]

Absolutely looking forward to what CDP can do with a cyberpunk game! Really fascinating genre and there're just too few games that let me explore the stuff that the genre allow. 

[wolfsite]

Be nice if they made an announcement around E3 but we may need to wait until a few months after the Witcher 3 hype dies down.

[L. Han]

Not going to lie. Witcher 3 so far has such a great atmosphere and attention to detail was superb. (All NPCs looked like they had the same amount of effort). Now if they carry on this trend in a sci-fi-cyberpunk-neo-future-pseudo-space game...

 

The thought alone gives me the fizz.

[Bob Walker]

I am very interested in that game and to finally be able to corroborate how good CDP is. 

[In Exile]

Heh. It would have been a hoot if they kept the title as Cyberpunk 2020.

The distant future! The technologically amazing world of FIVE YEARS FROM NOW!!!

At some point playing DX: HR will get ridiculous, which will make it worth it all over again.

[In Exile]

The theme of human augmentation already exists in our society, we already wear spectacles and a phone, so any question of it being unnatural as demonstrated by the anti-augmentalists in Human Revolution is entirely redundant. In of itself, it raises a rather fascinating discussion on human nature, which mixes elements of detective novels/noir with that of conspiracies, corruption and shady characters etc.

We're not really giving up parts of ourselves when we wear glasses and use phones. Body modifications are a bit like body horror.

[Fast Jimmy]

We're not really giving up parts of ourselves when we wear glasses and use phones. Body modifications are a bit like body horror.

Agreed. No one thinks a paraplegic has less of a soul, or that someone with a failed liver on dialysis has diminished spirit energy. So why would giving people robot appendages or robot organs be robbing them of their humanity?

The only time I think that argument could be made would be cerebral implants, as that would be changing the brain, which is the seat of thought, personality and soul.

[In Exile]

Agreed. No one thinks a paraplegic has less of a soul, or that someone with a failed liver on dialysis has diminished spirit energy. So why would giving people robot appendages or robot organs be robbing them of their humanity?

The only time I think that argument could be made would be cerebral implants, as that would be changing the brain, which is the seat of thought, personality and soul.

I think the horror comes from the way it is and isn't voluntary. If I lose my leg and need a substitute we all understand. If I intentionally want to lose my leg to replace it with a super metal leg that feels different. And there's always the fear that we will be forced into doing it.

[TheChris92]

Agreed. No one thinks a paraplegic has less of a soul, or that someone with a failed liver on dialysis has diminished spirit energy. So why would giving people robot appendages or robot organs be robbing them of their humanity?

The only time I think that argument could be made would be cerebral implants, as that would be changing the brain, which is the seat of thought, personality and soul.

I was actually arguing for this too though.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Witcher 3 rocks, Cyberpunk 2077 sucks!

 

Go Team Witcher!

[Vortex13]

Witcher 3 rocks, Cyberpunk 2077 sucks!

 

Go Team Witcher!

 

Boo! 

 

Sleek guns and sexy chrome over cumbersome swords and unshaven faces. 

 

Spoiler

Actually there is an easter egg from a certain adoptive daughter of the title character that suggests that the Witcher and Cyberpunk universes are actually interconnected. 

 

So saying Cyberpunk sucks is saying that the Witcher sucks in a way. BOW BEFORE MY SUPERIOR LOGIC! 

[TheChris92]

We're not really giving up parts of ourselves when we wear glasses and use phones. Body modifications are a bit like body horror.

They are but the first step. They both relatively serve to enhance our lives which is enough to warrant them as stepping stones for human augmentation like say.. Nanomachines etc. It serves to point out that it would be redundant to call human augmentation for unnatural, when we are already in the process of wiring ourselves through neural networks, the internet and already wear braces, watches, which sooner or later will be duct-taped to our arms etc