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So what canon ending would make the most sense for ME4?


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I was thinking, if they pick control or destroy they may have to mention Shepherds fate as she was still around, either as a consciousness controlling the reapers or as a battered human, if they pick the synthesis then Shep is just gone but is a galaxy full of cyborgs the best starting place for ME4?

 

Personally I hope for destroy, I want some proper closure on my Shep's fate, I know ME4 isn't about Shep but the 'ultimate destroy' ending just left too many unanswered questions



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None of them. They're all mindbogglingly stoopit.
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At this point I don't really care, because whatever it's gonna be, it's still going to annoy me to some degree. Probably.

 

I do agree that destroy feels like the most likely, and I would have been curious to see a galaxy after the affects of synthesis, but meh.



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destroy



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All three are good jumping off points.  However, all three would mean different games.



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High EMS Destroy or Control.

Destroy with high EMS is self-explanatory. Control works because since there is always the possibility of Shepard AI/VI/Whatever the hell they are/ deciding to destroy the Reapers after rebuilding the galaxy. With proper handling both will lead to the same galaxy.

Synthesis won't work because:

  1. It's stupid.
  2. It would require a completely different game to Control/Destroy.

IMO the endings are not the biggest problem. Yes, they are silly, but nothing a healthy amount of handwavium wouldn't fix. Control/Destroy import, everyone survives, Catalyst lied, AIs live, et cetera. Synthesis users get shafted but hey, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Besides, it doesn't take long to replay the ending.

 

The biggest issue is that you can potentially get Rachni, Krogan, Quarians, Hanar and Geth wiped out in your save file. That's five races. How are BW supposed to write around that when creating NPCs? Not to mention whether Krogan Wrex/Wreav or Rachni Breeder/Queen. Those result in completely different scenarios.



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I hope for destroy too. I hope we find that shepard and (in my case) kaiden have been reunited and lived hapily ever after

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This is why I think we will get a game with little to no connection with the trilogy (the leak about another galaxy?), the endings set quite different paths for the galaxy but I think BW can iron them out. Synthesis is my fav ending but we will see, hopefully we will get to see the Milky Way and the results of our choices in some future installments.



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Here's my take: Starbrat lied. The Crucible fired. The reapers died. The mass relays did not get damaged. Synthetics didn't die. Shepard bled out.... finally - ME1 had the Disney Death; ME2 had the "No One Could Survive That" trope; ME3 - also did "No One Could Survive That" with Harbinger's beam, so let's just end the poor bastard's agony.


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They will probably go for the Deus Ex route and make all the endings canon somehow.



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Codex Entry: Commander Shepard "The First Human Spectre" is a fictional character and the subject of several interactive films published by Tethras Enterprises.  These films were wildly popular due at least in part to the player being able to customize Shepard, from gender to appearance to backstory.  Shepard could even have romances with several of the colorful cast of characters.  The viewer was able to experience the adventures using Shepard as an avatar, making choices for Shepard and customizing the story to suit individual tastes.

Over its five year run, numerous adventures where made available for Shepard's fans to experience.  Though the central plot involved foiling the "Reapers" a mythological race of sentient AIs the films credited for the extinction of the Protheans.

Shepard's run ended with the so-called "Shepard Incident".  The conclusion of the final film was considered so controversial that it caused an unprecedented uproar which even a rereleased ending could not quell.

Currently Tethras Enterprises has no plans to bring back Shepard for other stories.  However, they are looking into the licensing of Blasto for a new series.


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High EMS Destroy ideally (my personal opinion obviously) is what I'd want them to canonize.

 

Control could work.  As someone else stated (forget where, may even be in this thread I didn't go back to find it) who's to say that after rebuilding..ShepAI doesn't shut-down and/or destroy the reapers basically leaving the galaxy "rebuilt" but minus the reapers (essentially a "rainbows and butterflies" DESTROY ending)

 

Synthesis....meh.  I despise it.  And I'm not going to go into why.  But it and "refuse" are the only two endings they should absolutely ignore.  And "refuse" will have to be ignored if they keep it in the same galaxy...leaving just the abortion that is synthesis.

 

Even if they chose Synthesis (which while it may be interesting for a spin-off..doesn't really hold much substance for a continuation) I'd still prefer they "canonized" one of the endings and STAY in the Milky Way.

 

If this "leak" is true about moving to the Andromeda (or any other) Galaxy...aside from the trite of it being a cheap way out of their own ending garbage...it will make Mass Effect lose something.  It'd be like moving Star Trek to another galaxy or Star Wars.  ME started, and should stay, in the Milky Way.  To do otherwise would absolutely take away the "human" element of it.

 

It's why you see in almost any sci-fi the main character(s) are humans and not some alien.  Of course some will be perfectly happy with a Turian or whatever main character, but the majority will not "relate" to them as much and it will turn too many away...and moving ME out of the milky way will be similar...I really think they need to keep ME in our own galaxy.

 

suck it up, chose a "canon" ending that allows the series to go forward.  I think they run the risk of losing less that way than some trite stunt this "leak" is proposing they're doing.



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Refuse. Play as Liara as she escapes the Reapers in search of an explanation why the Crucible didn't work.



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Refuse. Play as Liara as she escapes the Reapers in search of an explanation why the Crucible didn't work.

 

Why? Because it was just one more Reaper trap, to make you waste resources on a giant pile of crap.

But I would totally play that.


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Refuse. Play as Liara as she escapes the Reapers in search of an explanation why the Crucible didn't work.

Nope. My ems was low enough for her to die on the beam run. Excellent. 


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"We don't know what happened after we left the milky way"

 

100%



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I'm with Iakus on this.

 

The opening scene in ME: Next has your character leaving the movie theater after watching "Mass Effect 3: The Reaper War" and people around your character are speculating about the meaning of the ending. The giant signs outside the theater say "Meer Hale Sheen Hillis Prinze Helfer Keener under the title. They post seven at most. Your character just shrugs their shoulders and takes a taxi. During the cab ride, they get a call to report to C-sec.

 

See? Ending problem solved. ME3 was a monster movie.



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Considering the rumors surrounding the next game, taking place in another galaxy involving the milky way trying to colonize other galaxies I doubt they'll be mention of what actually happened. My personal bet is a "the reaper war was a period of great uncertainty, as record keeping was difficult at best due to the galaxy-wide war. It is still unknwon how the final battle of earth managed to bring a swift end fo the reaper threat, and some even raise doubts that the reapers were ever anything more then a myth to explain a galactic-collapse of council power and subsequent dark age".

 

Though I'm not sure if the game will actually take place in andromeda, or in the milky way in an unexplored part of the galaxy. After all "There are between two and four hundred billion stars in the galaxy, and less than 1% of them have ever been visited or had their systems properly surveyed." That's a lot of wiggle room to ass-pull new worlds and a new threat to deal with.



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But the canon at the end of the game is....

 



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But the canon at the end of the game is....

 

 

To be quite frank, I'd rather they go that route with the "many of the details have been lost/it happened a long time ago" route. Do it like elder scrolls, have these games be centuries apart.



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To be quite frank, I'd rather they go that route with the "many of the details have been lost/it happened a long time ago" route. Do it like elder scrolls, have these games be centuries apart.

 

Elder Scrolls actually had a Dragon Break back in the day...where multiple endings all became one chaotic permutation. The setting has been a little weird since (also interesting though). It ended up creating a schizophrenic god who, at any given time, kills both sides of the overall conflict. It's why there's so much controversy surrounding Talos.



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If Bioware was to pick an ending it would probably be High EMS destroy. Not because its popular but because it's the only ending where the Galaxy can go back to the Status Quo. Hackett flat out says "Everything that was destroyed can be rebuilt." So i imagine that would include the Geth and EDI.



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If Bioware was to pick an ending it would probably be High EMS destroy. Not because its popular but because it's the only ending where the Galaxy can go back to the Status Quo. Hackett flat out says "Everything that was destroyed can be rebuilt." So i imagine that would include the Geth and EDI.

 

The only reason I'd doubt this is that their previous "default" Shep is incompetent. He gets most of his squadmates killed in the SM (or doesn't bother recruiting), loses the whole Cerberus crew, can't even save one colonist on Feros, etc.. A high EMS player is someone who actually cares. Their default is the equivalent of some stoner who didn't pay attention to most of the games.


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As said before, if they go with canon endings, high EMS destroy seems the most likely since it allows the galaxy to prettty much go on like before and keeps BW from having to make drastic changes to the universe they have created.

 

Control is also an option, but considering how much BW seems to favor paragon it doubt it's gonna happen.

 

Synthesis can be pretty much ruled out I think. The changes made are simply too drastic and remove the universe too far from what is established and relatable. A new player would be like "Everyone is half synthetic. WUT?" and many fans wouldn't be happy with that either. Making drastic changes to an already established and succesful franchise is a risk not worth taking from an investors point of view, so I doubt EA would allow it, even if BW wanted it.

 

Then of course there is the possibility that BW makes a cop out by either placing ME4 in a completly different setting (other galaxy), very far into the future (no one remembers) or by just saying that none of it ever happend. I don't like any of these options, so my hope is with control or destroy.

 

But the canon at the end of the game is....

 

 

Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that the configuration of planets seems impossible? :D



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Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that the configuration of planets seems impossible? :D

Who says Stargazer is on a planet? ;)