Cassandra, Sera and Iron Bull/Vivienne
I love it to respect the traditions of the Avvar and with full enthusiasm to be there. And harvest Displeasure from this four arrogant philistines.^^
I love the culture of the Avvar and their handling with magic and the fade.
And I like it to hear from failures of the chantry, the templars and seekers (and Dalish). 
There is always something to laugh*.
*Yes I know. Apart from my terrible English and grammar.
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It's also a joke in a way since Solas makes Cole "forget" him at the end of the game.
I had Cassandra, Dorian and Varric in my first run of the DLC. Then Cassandra, Dorian and Vivienne in the second.
Cassandra has a lot to say in the old temple about the Seekers and Dorian about the Tevinter ruins. Vivienne shows great respect for Inquisitor Ameridan when the lost memories are recovered.
Y hate dalish?
They lost there history of magical lore? They don't follow chantry way of doing magic?
Because they refused to help during the Second Blight, and they started a war that nearly tore down Orlais (which if had been succesful would've launched humans right back into the dark ages).
Because they refused to help during the Second Blight, and they started a war that nearly tore down Orlais (which if had been succesful would've launched humans right back into the dark ages).
true but Humans shown to be untrustworthy....... Tevinter or not? Drakon's empire wasnt so convincing to Dales? In Jaw of Hakkon; Ameridan was an elf of the Dales but mission against the Hakkon dragon cost him his life........he wanted to have 2nd Blight to be victorious with human nations n eleven nations fighting on front..........but he coulnt live longer to united the dales...surly they would have helped for dalish Inquisitor?
the Dale as individuals dont subjugate their mages? may have not helped but it wasnt out irrationality? humans did things the Elves would say is Equal to the Blight(but for elves).......
true but Humans shown to be untrustworthy....... Tevinter or not? Drakon's empire wasnt so convincing to Dales? In Jaw of Hakkon; Ameridan was an elf of the Dales but mission against the Hakkon dragon cost him his life........he wanted to have 2nd Blight to be victorious with human nations n eleven nations fighting on front..........but he coulnt live longer to united the dales...surly they would have helped for dalish Inquisitor?
the Dale as individuals dont subjugate their mages? may have not helped but it wasnt out irrationality? humans did things the Elves would say is Equal to the Blight(but for elves).......
Um...wut?
what i mean was Dalish rnt like Chantry in terms of mage treatment. Human Chantry runned business masks the TRUTH about past AGE history that lead to the Dragon Age.
Um, yeah. I don't have any idea what you're trying to say, well I do but it's maddening even trying to read most of what you're saying. Regardless, I feel like." No," is the proper response here. ,
No. Dalish not only lie, but are wrong about, well, everything. They also keep numbers of mages low, usually with sending the kid off into the woods and saying good luck, I say kid because they are usually children, and unless it's a Clan Gathering, they have nowhere else to go. Chantry "bs" is more often than not completely true. So yeah.
You're right, the Dalish don't lie.
They just have sh*t memories.
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Dalish don't lie
Chantry gives bs history
Does that make sense?
I get what you're saying, but the Dalish are stuck believing in all the lies and refusing to seek out or accept the truth. They got it all wrong and won't accept that, and they keep making it worse for themselves. As for the Chantry, yes, in JOH it's pretty obvious they twisted stuff and used the situation with Ameridan to their advantage. I dislike the Chantry more each game.
No. Dalish not only lie, but are wrong about, well, everything. They also keep numbers of mages low, usually with sending the kid off into the woods and saying good luck, I say kid because they are usually children, and unless it's a Clan Gathering, they have nowhere else to go. Chantry "bs" is more often than not completely true. So yeah.
How can they be wrong if they dont have ANYTHING TO ACTUALLY verify it? all they r doing is trying connect broken pieces they cant decipher n try to be unbound to the human kingdoms? whats wrong with that? Remember Humans rnt the natives of Thedas it is believed that first humans in Thedas came from the rainforests of Par Vollen many thousands of years ago, migrating south from the archipelago. Elves had peace with dwarves until humans made it complicated.......with Qunari on the rise they r sure to have harder time getting "flat" ears elves to join them.......Dalish Elves DONT censor their lore like Chantry who depict important figure as loyal follower of Andraste who r claimed non-mages n human? BEST example is Jaws of Hakkon; if we LEARNED ANYTHING from Solas,Dorian Pavus,Cassandra Allegra Portia Calogera Filomena Pentaghast, Cole the Compassion spirit; it that Chantry HAS LIED!!!!! about nature of magic n its complexity n people Chantry claimed to be there role model.....THe previous Inquisitor was Dales elf aka DALISH!!!!!! n mage. but they NEVER say that in Chantry n Andraste's guide was an Dalish Mage!!!!!! Dalish!!!!!
Also Dalish dont abandon they mages? they send them out when they come of adult n have them go to Clan to Clan so the Templars dont gather to concentrated group of Dalish mages in on Clan......When they reach the limit to have Dalish mages....they HAVE NO CHOOSE BUT to leave the baby mage in woods n hope the "Creators" guide this baby to safe life.......because of FEAR of humans learning their r concentrated group of mages in one Clan or producing lots of babies with magic potential..........human PUT THEM IN THIS CONFLICT!!!!!! its not a choose but only way to has dalish travel from being ambushed.........the truth hurts n we as human if u play as one r responsible of human ancestry near genocide of the Elves......
You're right, the Dalish don't lie.
They just have sh*t memories.
how can u have Schiste memory when u got barely nothing to verify the info.......found......
Im sorry it just i have lost respect to the humans in DA........only Elves, Dwarves, Kossith r good people in there own way.....humans r too much hypocrites...... n i dont agree with current religions of human races.
I think it's interesting that people base their party for lore purposes rather than who you think doesn't suck. Cass Dorian Sera/Varric is *always* my party. For quest reasons I'll swap in other people if I need to, but unless you lock a person and force me to take them, I won't take them if they make me crabby.
Blackwall and Iron Bull do not make me crabby personally. In fact I like Bull a lot. Bull is too squishy for a warrior and Blackwall doesn't get along with my boo Dorian. Cole is too weird for my tastes and Viv, well, she is just a bit of an elitist snob (didn't even recruit her in my last PT, and sent her off to the Divine throne in three games).
And Solas, well he's gone, but if I were to boot up an old save then play JoH, well, I wouldn't take him along anyhow because I just don't like him. I tolerate him until I get Dorian and then permanently ditch him for the Great Mustachio.
The companions I appreciate most for side comments are Bull, Cassandra, and Dorian. Solas does have content, and it's relevant, but I have personal issues with some aspects of his personality and prefer not to hear what he has to say. I understand him, I think, I just don't agree, and he's too inflexible to meet anyone halfway. He can sit in his office and lecture to and judge himself if he wants to, but my Inqs don't have time for it. There's nothing wrong with him or the way he was written. He just strikes a chord with me that I don't care for.
Bull's attitude toward spirituality gives some nice comments, and Dorian's got something interesting to say about everything. For me, it's more a question of which companions I like to hang out with the most, and different Inqs gravitate toward some companions.
Dalish don't lie
Chantry gives bs history
Does that make sense?
What?
Correction Dalish don't know there own history and make it up.
The chantry and human fight and betray one another and the victory writes there own history.
Im sorry it just i have lost respect to the humans in DA........only Elves, Dwarves, Kossith r good people in there own way.....humans r too much hypocrites...... n i dont agree with current religions of human races.
Because all people act that same some how.
What?
Correction Dalish don't know there own history and make it up.
The chantry and human fight and betray one another and the victory writes there own history.
How can the Dalish lie when they cant verify it as a lie? all they have is few piece that they think is connected to restore some lore of their lives n u go n say they're intentionally lying.......Humans ruined them now they r in this state of status....... they dont call magic a general sin like the Human Chantry.......then use blood magic because they r exempt from maleficarum?
Because all people act that same some how.
yes but out of every race the humans r the worse in my opinion.......
I think it's interesting that people base their party for lore purposes rather than who you think doesn't suck. Cass Dorian Sera/Varric is *always* my party. For quest reasons I'll swap in other people if I need to, but unless you lock a person and force me to take them, I won't take them if they make me crabby.
Blackwall and Iron Bull do not make me crabby personally. In fact I like Bull a lot. Bull is too squishy for a warrior and Blackwall doesn't get along with my boo Dorian. Cole is too weird for my tastes and Viv, well, she is just a bit of an elitist snob (didn't even recruit her in my last PT, and sent her off to the Divine throne in three games).
And Solas, well he's gone, but if I were to boot up an old save then play JoH, well, I wouldn't take him along anyhow because I just don't like him. I tolerate him until I get Dorian and then permanently ditch him for the Great Mustachio.
in my opinion the companions who have most lore reaction in a quest; makes the adventure educational n open my head about the world in thedas. tactics r important BUT it is how u use a character that makes the adventure challenging opens ur mind it making dare fights n it like chess ![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
I started out with Varric, Cole, and Dorian, because I thought that if the DLC had any hard decisions in it, that party would probably approve of my character's choices the most. It would have worked, but the team was a little too squishy, so I traded Varric for Blackwall, who is the opposite of squishy, but still generally approves of everything my character did. I should probably have swapped Blackwall out for Cassandra for the final dungeon, but I didn't know. I'll do it next time.
Edit, RE Blackwall and Dorian: They have some friction at first, but after a while, they genuinely seem to like each other. They are always at least a little rude toward each other, but after a while, it has a friendly, familiar feel to it. Their banter about booze is probably one of my favorites. Ah, Dorian, and his embarrassing fascination with Fereldan ale.
How can the Dalish lie when they cant verify it as a lie? all they have is few piece that they think is connected to restore some lore of their lives n u go n say they're intentionally lying.......Humans ruined them now they r in this state of status....... they dont call magic a general sin like the Human Chantry.......then use blood magic because they r exempt from maleficarum?
yes but out of every race the humans r the worse in my opinion.......
1.Not remebering somehow equal lying? No, but it's still bs. BS that leads to elves not learning from there mistakes.
2. Everyone is equally crappy. Why don't you get this? You take the actions of one group and paint every person of that groups race and see no problem with it...which is a big problem. That not how you should treat anyone. It's the most blind baseless reasoning ever. You don't even understand your blaming people who had nothing to do with the problem for something someone else did. That's ignorant and stupid.
How can they be wrong if they dont have ANYTHING TO ACTUALLY verify it?
I stopped reading after this very nonsensical statement. Well not really. That entire post reeks of someone who hasn't actually played DA:I, and just about all of the statements in it, that I could read/understand, are wrong.
I think the above poster is referring to how the Chantry, after the Exalted March on the Dales, purged any references to elves and eleven contributions to society and culture, including figures of any historical merit, especially any elven involvement with the formation of Andrastian faith.
In comparison, the Dalish haven't collectively, intentionally lied about anything regarding history (yet, I should add).
There is a difference between deliberately obscuring the truth (i.e. lying) and getting things wrong (i.e. being false). A scientist can make a hypothesis about a phenomena which can be drastically wrong - that's not a lie, which always requires an awareness of what is true. So it is correct to state that the Dalish are trying (and failing dreadfully) to uncover the truth.
Therefore, regardless of your position on elven isolationism, I think it's not too controversial to argue that the Chantry have done more to falsify history, particularly concerning elven-human relations, than the Dalish. Whether the same would be said of the Dalish, if they'd beaten the Exalted March and conquered Orlais, is a more interesting question (and one I won't attempt to answer).
But enough about that.
In terms of party, I don't usually like Cole but he had a lot of relevent things to say this time around. Cassandra has a lot of seeker related dialogue at the old temple.
1.Not remebering somehow equal lying? No, but it's still bs. BS that leads to elves not learning from there mistakes.
2. Everyone is equally crappy. Why don't you get this? You take the actions of one group and paint every person of that groups race and see no problem with it...which is a big problem. That not how you should treat anyone. It's the most blind baseless reasoning ever. You don't even understand your blaming people who had nothing to do with the problem for something someone else did. That's ignorant and stupid.
I say that because the human collective in feudalism govt let Elves be TREATED LIKE worse then livestock!!!!! Where is Elven independent nations NOW in DA? none exist?? Humans backstab them (elves) after elves help beatup humans the people who will establish a chantry didnt like from Tiventer. U the human PROMISE peace but u gave THEM MORE genocide......because elves dont have right support structure they must let dalish mages free into the woods or Alienage Elves to Circle WERE THEY R treated like weapons not sentient beings........
I stopped reading after this very nonsensical statement. Well not really. That entire post reeks of someone who hasn't actually played DA:I, and just about all of the statements in it, that I could read/understand, are wrong.
thanks for admitting that u dont care on double checking the facts........ that is ok to say hear say instead of empirically analyzing the claimed facts.......what is actually true shines the human race in DA as worst of the worst.........Humans in DA r next worst things after Demons n Blights
#The two above in my comment: It JUST my opinion? y argue about this?
I think the above poster is referring to how the Chantry, after the Exalted March on the Dales, purged any references to elves and eleven contributions to society and culture, including figures of any historical merit, especially any elven involvement with the formation of Andrastian faith.
SpoilerIn comparison, the Dalish haven't collectively, intentionally lied about anything regarding history (yet, I should add).
There is a difference between deliberately obscuring the truth (i.e. lying) and getting things wrong (i.e. being false). A scientist can make a hypothesis about a phenomena which can be drastically wrong - that's not a lie, which always requires an awareness of what is true. So it is correct to state that the Dalish are trying (and failing dreadfully) to uncover the truth.
Therefore, regardless of your position on elven isolationism, I think it's not too controversial to argue that the Chantry have done more to falsify history, particularly concerning elven-human relations, than the Dalish. Whether the same would be said of the Dalish, if they'd beaten the Exalted March and conquered Orlais, is a more interesting question (and one I won't attempt to answer).
But enough about that.
In terms of party, I don't usually like Cole but he had a lot of relevant things to say this time around. Cassandra has a lot of seeker related dialogue at the old temple.
THANK U!!!! someone with empirical sense!!!!!! on Chantry matter
Also so far I decided:
Dream Team is
Male Mage Kossith Inquisitor/or Female Dalish Inquisitor
have Solas, Cassandra, Dorian
in special events of DLC like island u go to switch Dorian with Cole because it sounds like Dorian has less to say vs Cole n mission with Rage Demon to recruit
(Yes Im recruiting the rage demon scout because spirit is demon since spirit is being oppressed from doing it duty!!!! which solas told us about demons earlier on DAI in beginning of the game,demons exist because their original purpose has been stopped so they go corrupt from not following their instinct. If rage demon was able to avenge it companions it can become spirit; hoping for Justice or compassion spirit out of the ashes)
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