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[Broganisity]

You, as the player, might barely know your companions. You, as the Inquisitor, would fairly acquainted with them by the end of the game. Assuming the game does take place over a period of around 3 years, do you really think they would include every interaction shared between the Inquisitor and the other character?

*every time you return to Skyhold, you are greeted with a random cutscene of you doing Quizzie stuff, eating a bowl of cereal, and other random things with or without your companions*

I'd pay for this DLC.

[badkenbad]

I did some calculations based on travel time, and came up with two years worth of travel time just to complete the Inquisitor's Path. Throw in any of the side quests or visits to other areas and a complete playthrough could easily reach five years.

 

Details here: http://forum.bioware...ge-inquisition/

 

There really is no indication whatsoever in the game how much time passes during any of the major events. Thinking about it logically, though, you cross half of Thedas several times during the game, often crossing wilderness with no maintained roads at all. You travel back and forth to Skyhold a lot - and Skyhold is nowhere near the Imperial Highway or any port in Orlais. Round trip travel to the Hinterlands alone is at least a month, and you make that trip quite a few times, not to mention tooling around in the Hinterlands itself. A round trip to Val Royeaux would likely take twice as long - months. It's much further, but you can take a well-maintained highway, or go out of your way and take a ship.

 

You take an ARMY to Adamant, in the middle of the Western Approach, halfway across the continent. You take an army to the Arbor Wilds, which is a massive distance, across the Frostbacks, through the war-torn Dales and thick, unfriendly forests. Those journeys take many months, and they are only part of the story.

 

 

About the only quest you do that doesn't take months is Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, because Halamshiral is relatively close to Skyhold, and on the Imperial Highway.

[Exile Isan]

Doesn't Morrigan's narration at the end of the game state that one month after the defeat of Corypheus <insert name here> was crowned Divine Victoria?

[BansheeOwnage]

I did some calculations based on travel time, and came up with two years worth of travel time just to complete the Inquisitor's Path. Throw in any of the side quests or visits to other areas and it could easily reach five years.

 

Details here: http://forum.bioware...ge-inquisition/

Unfortunately the other numbers on the first page indicate that a round-trip to Val Royeaux is 2 weeks, not 2 months. Sorry, but 2 weeks (on horseback) sound more realistic, so it wouldn't have to be 2 years total.

[BansheeOwnage]

Doesn't Morrigan's narration at the end of the game state that one month after the defeat of Corypheus <insert name here> was crowned Divine Victoria?

Yes, I checked. But I don't know when Corypheus is supposed to be defeated.

[badkenbad]

Unfortunately the other numbers on the first page indicate that a round-trip to Val Royeaux is 2 weeks, no 2 months. Sorry, but 2 weeks (on horseback) sound more realistic, so it wouldn't have to be 2 years total.

 

If you're talking about that chart, I have no idea what those distances are based on. I based my numbers on Dagna's statement in DA:O about how long it takes to get from Orzammar to the Circle Tower.

 

Also, over long distances, travel by horse is not nearly twice as fast as travel by foot. You can only get that kind of speed on horseback if you are able to run the horses and change horses at regular intervals. Much of the travel in the game is large groups, requiring supply wagons, which would actually be slower than a standard hiking or marching pace.

 

So the distances on the chart are questionable, and the travel speeds are not accurate.

[Daerog]

The rebuilding of Skyhold I thought was a good indicator of time passing. Rebuilding a fortress that no one knew about for a long time could not have been quick, and the roads leading to it had to be cleared.

 

So, going all over Orlais and Fereldan, rebuilding a castle, recruiting and training people, it would make sense to take more than a year.

 

The gameplay, I agree, does seem to zoom from one point to the other, but that is just gameplay, not story.

[zambingo]

Completing a zone as much as possible on the first visit now seems to be the most lore supporting, immersion supporting and tactical approach to the game... so that "Leave the Hinterlands" campaign was for suckers. ;-)

[Exile Isan]

Yes, I checked. But I don't know when Corypheus is supposed to be defeated.

Yes, but a previous poster said that she was crowned Divine a year after the Conclave explosion, but if the game says one month after the defeat of Corypheus and not a year then the three years that Gaider guesses could still be possible. 

[Dai Grepher]

Gaider is wrong, as usual. Besides, he was only guessing. He did not give a serious response.

 

I can see that. 

 

After all, in the game the time between you walking out of the Fade and walking into Skyhold is stated to be months. 

 

No, it was about five days. They found him, Adan tried to treat him for a few days, but he got worse. Then Solas showed up and over the course of three days the Herald recovered. Then he woke up in the cell.

 

This is explained in various notes in Haven.

 

EDIT: Sorry, I misread this as "waking in Haven" for some reason.

 

The Hinterlands are mostly taken care of in one day. In fact, figure most maps require one day. Maybe two if you revisit them.

 

The rest is all travel time. So unless you're intentionally going from the Fallow Mire to the Forbidden Oasis and then back again over and over, there's no way you get anywhere close to 3 years.

 

Cory's plans were years in the making, but Inquisition is when they started taking effect, and when they did they were quick. The only mission that seems like it could have taken Cory some time was searching for the Well of Sorrows.

 

Also don't forget that our Hero is on a mission. From the end of Adamant to the end of the game is about a third. More if you do Wicked Eyes/Hearts after Adamant. The Hero isn't going to be away on that quest for that long, especially not after being gone for a while already.

 

And Kieran doesn't age during the course of the game. Which means it happens within a year.

Modifié par Dai Grepher, 21 mai 2015 - 02:52 .

[Bayonet Hipshot]

3 years ? That's a lie. The whole plot felt like half a year or 9 months, tops. 

[myahele]

I'm surprised. it felt more like it was only 1 year

[Fredward]

Sure, sounds reasonable. But I'm firing Josephine for making me live in a keep with holes for at least like a year and a half.

[N7recruit]

1) The characters certainly don't develop in a way that feel's like it's been 3 years.

 

2) So Cory let the inquisitor **** up his plans for 3 YEARS & not once (After Haven) did he go "This guy is ruining my plans, might want to kill him soon before he fucks everything up"   

 

Minus all the BS Grind Zones the Main plot of DA:I feel's like it takes place over a couple of months to a year at most IMO. It's all "Quick! Recuit the Mages/Templars to seal the breach then stop Cory's three big plans of a royal Assassination, a Demon army & finding the Eluvian!" 

 

The whole "Stop the Baddie Quick!" plot implies a sense of agency that does not gel well with a three year adventure.

[N7recruit]

Damn Double post

[Sweawm]

The only game to really master the passage of time was Assassin's Creed 2. It's kinda fallen short everywhere else. 

 

If DA:I really takes place over three years then it falls into the same trap that DA2 did. No effort is ever invested into showing things change. 

[Patchwork]

3 years seems like too much, the DLCs might be able to stretch it into 2 depending on their contents. 

[Rascoth]

No, it was about five days. They found him, Adan tried to treat him for a few days, but he got worse. Then Solas showed up and over the course of three days the Herald recovered. Then he woke up in the cell.

 

This is explained in various notes in Haven.

That is true, but for Haven. Hanako spoke about time between Fade and Skyhold. 

 

On a topic, I actually believe it could be those three years. I started to look differently at time passing after one statement in Awakening. When you go to save Amaranthine and then return to save Vigil's Keep, seneschal Varel said that few days after I left they spotted darkspawn.  Considering a fact, that when you were in a city darkspaws were already after a Keep...

Amaranthine and Keep seems close on a map, so imagine a trip between further places.

 

But well, what I believe and what I felt is two different things...

[PhroXenGold]

Well, if it's meant to have lasted 3 years, the game does a pretty poor job of showing that to the player. Not just in the sense of it not feeling like it taking you nearly that long to do things, but also beacuse comparing the world at the end of the game to that at the start certainly doesn't show the impact of three years, and three years of conflict at that, passing.

[Big I]

The future in In Hushed Whispers is in Harvestmere 9:42 Dragon, Dorian mentions that's a year. So it took Corypheus a year to raise a demon army and conquer the south. Since the only thing the Inquisitor changes is the Inquisition response to Corypheus's plans, that's the time frame. The game begins in late 9:40/ early 9:41, and ends in 9:42.

[Medhia_Nox]

An easy way to fix this problem?  Seasons.  

[Fearsome1]

I would be more than okay with three years elapsing during Inquisition ..... IF ...... there had been any lines of dialogue to at least imply that some amount of time had elapsed.

 

I do not recall hearing anything of the kind, which leaves the whole affair solely at the discretion of the players. That being the case, NO, three years certainly did not pass. If pressed to hazard a guess, to me it felt like a year if that or something akin to how long it took the Warden to put the kibosh on the archdemon during the fifth blight (I believe that was around a year).

 

I respect Mr. Gaider, but if three years was his impression, then that should have been expressed in some fashion during gameplay. Sadly, another example of the devs inadvertently dropping the ball.

[vertigomez]

Waitaminit.

How long did it take Blackwall to confess, then?!

/cryin

[leadintea]

An easy way to fix this problem?  Seasons.  

 

Worked for The Last of Us.