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[Wintersbreath]

Like always, my characters are all do-gooders. I've been looking at the Keep and decided to not kill Anders (I didn't kill him the first time anyway). What my Hawke was trying to do is to leave Anders to the law system and hope something productive would come out of it (and separate him and Justice). Anders' sentence would most probably be death but Hawke isn't the type to just kill anyone and as betrayed and stupid he felt (everyone saw it a mile away), he just couldn't kill his friend. He's not the type to carry out his "judgments." Which brings me to my point. How could my Hawke justify not killing Anders when he had carelessly and nonchalantly killed soooo many people (self defense but still)?

 

I know Varric commented on it once or twice, but this being canon really puts me in a tight spot, with regards to my headcanon of my Hawke.

[BloodKaiden]

Carelessly? It was self defense throughout the whole game!

[EmperorSahlertz]

Because MOST of the people Hawke kills are faceless mooks who attacked him first.

[Andraste_Reborn]

My 'canon' Hawke never killed anyone who wasn't trying to kill her. That includes Anders, who got kicked out of the party instead.

 

Now, there were a lot of people in and around Kirkwall who committed Suicide By Hawke, including Merrill's whole clan. But is that really her fault? By the time you get to Act III, she'd acquired great wealth and a fancy title largely by being good at killing things, and yet the line of people and things waiting to attack her never got any shorter.

[vertigomez]

Killing someone who's running at you with a knife is a lot different from killing a friend (or lover) who's fought by your side for the past decade.

[Zazzerka]

If you kill them you get their stuff.

[N7recruit]

In game violence has never meant anything in any DA game. It means nothing to the narrative or its characters.

 

Which is one of my biggest gripes about the series (& 99% of triple A games in general) where the violence is thrown in Just there to be gamey filler. It creates such a disconnect with the characters actions in the narrative & their actions in gameplay. 

 

Eg Merrill is sweet as cinnamon, is easily flustered by dirty talk but has killed well over 200 people... Sure game, whatever you say. 

[Exile Isan]

Killing someone who's running at you with a knife is a lot different from killing a friend (or lover) who's fought by your side for the past decade.

Or is the only reason your little brother is still alive.

[thats1evildude]

Inquisitor: I don't kill THAT many people.

 

Dorian: Are you joking? I'm only surprised that you didn't kill someone walking over here.

[EmissaryofLies]

Should I be disturbed?

[thats1evildude]

Should I be disturbed?

 

You wouldn't be the Jack of Blades if you were!

[Master Warder Z_]

If you kill them you get their stuff.

Just so.

[Lady Artifice]

How could my Hawke justify not killing Anders when he had carelessly killed soooo many people?

 

Friendship, or at least familiarity.

[The Baconer]

How could my Hawke justify not killing Anders when he had carelessly killed soooo many people?

 

Monkeysphere.

 

Then again, what is one more notch on the belt?

[ThomasBlaine]

In Neverwinter Nights the Knight-Captain mercilessly slaughters half of Neverwinter's population in criminals throughout the first half of the game, and Shepard's in-game bodycount is in the 4-5000s even without counting those 300.000 Batarians. You really, really shouldn't think too hard about it.

[KaiserShep]

I suppose it should be disturbing that Hawke, or the Inquisitor, are forced to kill a lot of people, but it's us or them, so fools gotta die, and have their miserable corpses looted as just reward. Special mention goes to Duke Prosper, whose pompous ass gets the best murder in the entire game. Really? Threats while hanging over a cliff? It's like you want to make sweet love to gravity.

 

As for Anders, my Hawke had enough of his BS after he almost killed some innocent girl over a fearful comment, so kicked him out of the group. Knifing him in the back after he basically blew up a chunk of the city, which actually did kill or grievously injure a lot of people in the surrounding area, is the least she could do.

[In Exile]

The scale of killing in an RPG is unreal. In DAO or POE we have a kill counter. You might easily kill over 1000 people with your own hands (more or less). That's insane! War criminals sometimes don't hit that number.

Don't think about it. It's all game contrivances.

[KaiserShep]

I wonder how many people are disturbed by one of Dorian's lines when you end a conversation with him.

 

Try not to kill anyone without me. XD

[TheJediSaint]

Not me; the righteous path is paved with the bodies of the wicked.

[TheDovah]

Not really as it was all self defense. That and the Warden has the potential to have the highest body count prior to the Inquisitor.1k Darkspawn in Origins, several dragons, demons, bandits, werewolves, giant spiders, the lists goes on. Hawke's foes could be fabricated by Varric and his/her bodycount may be lower. That said, Hawke has killed a lot more people then one person should.

 

Oh and because Bioware's heroes tend to be capable of killing thousands during their story. Ancestors save us if Varric starts telling stories about shepard, the kill count alone would break the fabric of reality! Nugs and Krogans would meet! Quanari would invade the Quarians! Cats and dogs would destroy THEDAS by fighting each other to the death!

[KaiserShep]

Who ever really feels iffy about darkspawn? They're walking super-diseased parasites. If we were able to eradicate the millions of them in the Deep Roads in one fell swoop, we'd do Thedas the biggest favor in a thousand years. XD

 

I guess the biggest thing is being able to successfully kill so many people and come out largely unscathed. It turns out that every PC in BioWare games is secretly the angel of death, come down to show these puny mortals what real killers look like.

[TheDovah]

Then they all get together in a tavern, share tales of their deeds and get into a massive bar brawl over who has the biggest weapon then make love depending on the dialogue options. Oh and Shepard just punches a wall or paints a wall depending on his morality.

[themikefest]

My femHawke doesn't care. The more the merrier.

 

With the Anders guy, he's of no use. Kill him and be done with it. Too bad my femHawke wasn't able to have other options to kill him

[vertigomez]

Or is the only reason your little brother is still alive.

That too.

[PogueMT]

Two of my Hawkes spared him because he saved their brother/sister, another because dammit, he caused the problem, he's going to help fix it, one refused to make him a martyr, and another spared him because he was in love and couldn't bring himself to do it - joys of RP!

 

On the bodycount thing, well tbh I'd be horrified at the BC of any of my characters if they were real!