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[emark.mark20]

1) According to the Dragon age wikia, "Reavers are warriors who use Blood Magic to give themselves power." Where does it say that in any of the official DA sources (EX: the games, books, comics, developer comments, etc.). As far as I know, no one in the games say that reaver abilities is magical like when Alistair in origins say that Templar abilities is like a form of magic. The only thing that reinforces that statement is that gameplay wise, you can absorb enemy hp into your own or use your own hp to attack enemies by summoning claws out of thin air (The dragon rage ability in inquisition)

 

2) If Reaver abilities is a form of blood magic, shouldn't the Chantry and templars apprehend reavers? No one in the DA games look down on reavers but yet, they look down on mages being dangerous and all because they can resort to blood magic anytime. I mean, absorbing peoples health, weather you are a warrior or a mage, should give people the impression that you are a blood mage.  

 

3) Iron bull says he is not a true reaver but has the exact abilities the inquisitor gets if he/she chooses the reaver specialization. How is this possible? Are qunari like, related to dragons or something? (Its worth noting that Sten is a reaver in the DA Origins DLC Darkspawn Chronicles)

 

EDIT: 4) Can you consider reavers being the "evil" specialization? It seems like a counterpart opposite to the Templar, and yet, there is no rivalry between the two groups (We get Templar vs mage/ blood mage rivalry instead)  

[The Baconer]

Reaver's receive quasi-magical (or maybe pseudo-magical... lore implications are not 100% clear) through blood, death, and pain. "Blood Magic", or the type that is most commonly referred to, is feared because of its ability to summon malevolent spirits and mind-control, neither of which are abilities Reavers possess.

 

I imagine a lot of people would find eating the flesh of your enemies icky, though.

[X Equestris]

It's probably only blood magic in the sense that you consume dragon blood to gain the powers.

Reavers can't mind control people. Blood mages can. That's why no one cares.

It's a common theory that qunari are dragon blooded. We don't know, though.

It's a darker spec, but I wouldn't call it evil.

[andy6915]

It can't control minds and it can't destroy the veil and it can't summon demons, which means people aren't really afraid of it. All it means for an enemy of a reaver is they're going to get hit by a weird aura of pain and have to deal with an enemy that gets happier and more dangerous and more turned on the the closer they are to defeat... Well, maybe not that last one. Maybe.

[emark.mark20]

Reaver's receive quasi-magical (or maybe pseudo-magical... lore implications are not 100% clear) through blood, death, and pain. "Blood Magic", or the type that is most commonly referred to, is feared because of its ability to summon malevolent spirits and mind-control, neither of which are abilities Reavers possess.
 
I imagine a lot of people would find eating the flesh of your enemies icky, though.

It's probably only blood magic in the sense that you consume dragon blood to gain the powers.
Reavers can't mind control people. Blood mages can. That's why no one cares.
It's a common theory that qunari are dragon blooded. We don't know, though.
It's a darker spec, but I wouldn't call it evil.

It can't control minds and it can't destroy the veil and it can't summon demons, which means people aren't really afraid of it. All it means for an enemy of a reaver is they're going to get hit by a weird aura of pain and have to deal with an enemy that gets happier and more dangerous and more turned on the the closer they are to defeat... Well, maybe not that last one. Maybe.

Mind control huh, thats interesting...

But still, one can call reaver abilities magic , right? I mean, how can you explain iron bull , the Reaver MP lady, and the inquisitor summoning a red claw out of thin air?

[The Baconer]

Mind control huh, thats interesting...

But still, one can call reaver abilities magic , right? I mean, how can you explain iron bull , the Reaver MP lady, and the inquisitor summoning a red claw out of thin air?

 

A visual approximation that makes gameplay more interesting. In the lore, I doubt Reaver's actually have omni-blades.

[Drasanil]

 4) Can you consider reavers being the "evil" specialization? It seems like a counterpart opposite to the Templar, and yet, there is no rivalry between the two groups (We get Templar vs mage/ blood mage rivalry instead)  

 

Well the lack of rivalry makes sense. Templars are an organised group, where as Reavers a bunch of random people with no organisation who happened to get a sippy-cup filled with dragon's blood. 

[emark.mark20]

A visual approximation that makes gameplay more interesting. In the lore, I doubt Reaver's actually have omni-blades.

Funny you say that because the claws do look like something out of mass effect 3

[myahele]

Chantry propaganda: Anything that falls outside of their knowledge is automatically assumed to be blood magic 

[AdrynBliss]

For a good look at a reaver in action/talk alittle about it i highly recommend watching Redemption, which is awesome and should be mandatory viewing for any DA fan.

[Drasanil]

For a good look at a reaver in action/talk alittle about it i highly recommend watching Redemption, which is awesome and should be mandatory viewing for any DA fan.

 

Or not given it involves Felicia Day.

[raging_monkey]

Or not given it involves Felicia Day.

Rather enjoyed myself minor errors here and there but very much enjoyed it

[The Baconer]

For a good look at a reaver in action/talk alittle about it i highly recommend watching Redemption, which is awesome and should be mandatory viewing for any DA fan.

 

That's a big stretch.

[Master Warder Z_]

For a good look at a reaver in action/talk alittle about it i highly recommend watching Redemption, which is awesome and should be mandatory viewing for any DA fan.

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No

[themageguy]

Reavers drink dragons blood through a ritual. From the dialogue with the Reaver trainer, we learn that-

* the consumption of dragons blood changes you
* despite it being a form of blood magic, demons try but cannot possess a reaver.

From dialogue with Cassandra, we also learn that excess consumption of dragons blood, at least according to tales within her family, can cause the individual to become highly aggressive and to develop growths of a draconic nature - scales, horns that sort of thing.

The theory amongst the ben-hassrath is that the tamassrans, being the ones who control breeding, introduced dragon blood into the qunari.
With the case of the iron bull, he mentions that no matter how much they hurt him, he will come back at them harder. This correlates with an aspect of reavers abilities - the more hurt they become, the stronger they are.
Also the aggression is a common trait amongst qunari and reavers. Solas will say to a Qunari inquisitor that the qun is used to keep savage natures in check.

As a reavers abilities don't involve demons summoning and mind control, the Templars have no reason to actively hunt them other than they would be considered a dark cult.

[emark.mark20]

You know, since dragon blood can do some weird effects while drinking it, is it possible that dragon blood has lyrium in it? I mean, one can consider a reaver a magic knight since what they do is so, well, "unnatural".

[leaguer of one]

You know, since dragon blood can do some weird effects while drinking it, is it possible that dragon blood has lyrium in it? I mean, one can consider a reaver a magic knight since what they do is so, well, "unnatural".

Dragons are magical....So...

[themageguy]

I think its more akin to the blood of elves. Something special about it.