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[Jpudify]

This may seem like an odd notion, but all of those issues seem like they could be easily fixed by actually talking to the other players.  90% of the rooms I play in, nobody talks.  (At least until they hear someone else speaking first)  That right there, is probably a large portion of the problem.

"Don't worry, we didn't miss the bonus door.  We just need to clear things out first."  Most times, this works just fine to get other players to catch back up, and help out.  "Hey, let me grab the torch."  Really, I can't see many people complaining about NOT having to hold the damn thing.  Seriously, communication is a wonderful thing in a cooperative game.  It helps both parties, new, and veteran.  There are people who don't wish to be helpful, or don't care to learn the mechanics of the game, for whatever reason.  They are the exception, and I think you'll find they are few and far between.

Things that you deem are from "lack of intelligence" may very well be that they simply do not know.  This isn't speaking for Perilous alone, but of the multiplayer experience in general.  The community is what people make it.  If nobody wants to help each other out, and point them in the right direction, but instead boot them for the smallest infractions; the community will just be bitter elitists, and kill off most of the non-hardcore player base.  Helping goes a long way.

I start my own lobby and tell people "I'm speed running" as soon as they enter.

 

By zone 4 I have at least one kick vote almost every game.

 

I think that as soon as I start talking people just mute me simply because its noise to them.

 

"We'll come back for the door once the mobs are all dead." They continue to spam the down button (PS4) like I hadn't said anything.

 

Overall, I get kicked from lobbies I started because I'm speed running, not stopping for doors, or generally playing exactly how I say I'm going to play before anyone readys-up.

 

I ranted in the DAIMP PUG thread, I think.

 

I've tried communicating many times and with the exception of one perilous game, no one listened or cared and continued doing what they were doing, whether trying to kick me from my own lobby or spamming the down button in front of a door.

[monicasubzero]

It is still.

 

"When you move to Perilous", you will eat dust & make reckless decisions that will compromise the group, whether you're a shiny fool who's collected tons of partially misleading experience by farming Threatening, or a tattered one. I stand by my assumption that all it does is further isolate the respective skill camps & presumptuous tantrum-kicks will skyrocket.

 

I have very few promotions and don't play many characters seriously, so I have less than 400 Prestige, too.  I wager I'm very successful on Perilous nontheless, to the point where I'm mostly directing the group with mic chat enabled. Yet if people just saw my playerstats, they would probably assume I'm a noob and be a lot more inclined to kick me because I was "weighted, judged, and deemed unworthy."

 

Speaking of tantrum, I'm gonna shut up now. The majority seems to be all for it, and I'd love nothing more than to be proven wrong. I'm having an unusually wary day it seems.

 

It's a competition when you play to win. If you play for fun, it won't be. I'm that kind of player who doesn't get upset if finished last. It happens. It's just that if you (a general you) want to play Perilous, I hope you know how hard it is and take the "responsibility" of the fact that, if you die, the party will suffer from that and most probably won't end the game, unless they are very good players and don't suffer that much if they have to play alone.

I have very few promotions myself (2 for each character, I think) and I'm around 400 as prestige. I don't think I'm a very good player, if someone kicks me, fine, I'll find other players who want to play or even better, I play with friends.

Anyway, it's just a matter of how you play and want from the multiplayer experience. 

[GreatBlueHeron]

Can't stand people who won't do doors on routine and threatening. Like, if you don't do them (and skip pots! what is this I don't even) you get practically no gold for your efforts. And if you're playing routine or threatening, odds are very good you don't have everything unlocked. I just. I just don't. Why? Go play perilous if you won't do doors.

[Necromega]

My opinion on this topic (and I have over 600 prestige) is that you should only being level 1s into perilous in private groups. If you are in a PUG group, you shouldn't be bringing a level 1 into perilous. The only exception I can see to this is if you were playing in the same PUG group for awhile and promoted. By that time they would see how good you were/are and they shouldn't kick you. But Idont like when people join a PUG group as a level 1 from the start