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[Darth Volus]

Warp is probably more effective but Shockwave to toss enemies around is way more Krogan-y.

 

 

Why not have both? 

[Quarian Master Race]

LOL, nobody is gonna do that. Who's going to put Power Recharge consumable and gear on top of 200% CD and skip Barrier for a measly 0.2 second gain? Who's gonna not take Geth Scanner or something similar that help a lot more? You have to a complete idiot to do that. 

The same type of person that specs pull for recharge speed on a 200% cooldown Justicar build, perhaps? Or who plays QFE as a cryo blast spamming BW sniper with no incinerate? Or who thinks that BSN is LiveJournal.

I'm just throwing proverbial darts at a wall and seeing what sticks.

[Darth Volus]

The same type of person that specs pull for recharge speed on a 200% cooldown Justicar build, perhaps? Or who plays QFE as a cryo blast spamming BW sniper with no incinerate? Or who thinks that BSN is LiveJournal.

I'm just throwing proverbial darts at a wall and seeing what sticks.

 

 

True. True dat 

[Terminator Force]

LOL, nobody is gonna do that. Who's going to put Power Recharge consumable and gear on top of 200% CD and skip Barrier for a measly 0.2 second gain? Who's gonna not take Geth Scanner or something similar that help a lot more? You have to a complete idiot to do that. 

 

And no matter how you cut it, the Human Adept is 10X better at Biotic Explosions than the Shaman. He can do Warp and Shockwave like the Shaman, but he can also do double Singularity explosions. He can immediately incapacitate 2 health/shield mooks and shoot something else while they are floating in the air. 

 

It's not even close to compare HA and KS, KS can only take a few shots more and melee more reliably, that's it. 

 

- because you don't want to waste too many or have any Adren Mod3s.

- because Geth Scanner is a crutch.

- why we talking about HA? He can't do the in your face Shaman action. So live it up. "Out there is fortune, waiting to be had. If you'd think I'll sit around as the world goes by, your thinking live a fool, 'cause it a case of live and die. If you think I'll let it go, your mad. So stand tall! I'm young and kinda proud. Oh so hot, no time to take a rest. Act though, ain't room for second best. Real strong got me some security. Hey I'm a big smash, I'm going for infinity. Yeah Ha!" That's Krogan Shaman right there. So "If you think I'll sit around, chip away my brain... well, you've got another thing coming, Binary Helix." 

 

 

PS, Binary Helix, but try my max cooldown build with Adren Mod3's (use the max cooldown gear and all max cooldown powers, skip passives & take light SMG or Pistol if you not going to glitch), try that for some time until you get a better feel and tell me you're not impressed.

[Darth Volus]

- because you don't want to waste too many or have any Adren Mod3s.

- because Geth Scanner is a crutch.

- why we talking about HA? He can't do the in your face Shaman action. So live it up. "Out there is fortune, waiting to be had. If you'd think I'll sit around as the world goes by, your thinking live a fool, 'cause it a case of live and die. If you think I'll let it go, your mad. So stand tall! I'm young and kinda proud. Oh so hot, no time to take a rest. Act though, ain't room for second best. Real strong got me some security. Hey I'm a big smash, I'm going for infinity. Yeah Ha!" That's Krogan Shaman right there. So "If you think I'll sit around, chip away my brain... well, you've got another thing coming, Binary Helix." 

 

 

PS, Binary Helix, but try my max cooldown build with Adren Mod3's (use the max cooldown gear and all max cooldown powers, skip passives & take light SMG or Pistol if you not going to glitch), try that for some time until you get a better feel and tell me you're not impressed.

 

I'm not impressed with Shaman no matter the build. As a biotic, he's weak and probably the worst one out of all of them (save for the Volus Adept) As a Krogan melee kit, he's one of the worst too, as other Krogans do it better and they have powers off cooldown (grenades) or better survivability (Kroguard, Warlord) and they have more melee damage bonuses. 

 

And I will never equip puny weapons like pistols or SMG's on my Krogans. My Krogans go with a Shotgun. Preferably a Claymore. 

 

Krogan Shaman in my book should've been a female (they have the model) with completely unique powers instead of a rehash. 

[Terminator Force]

I guess you never play drunk or... something else. Because that's when Shaman busts loose for super smooth relaxing matches regardless of the pug quality... until you get sync-killed. Then everybody goes back to the lobby, do not pass go. And send that Sinful to jail. XXX

 

 

Remember how I said I hated Banshee's in the past. Believe it or not, my Shaman loves Banshees, especially double ones. Because my booms are that fast. I even focus on bosses with Shaman when they are surrounded out in the open with me out in the open, because I can. And Shotguns are still an option for my build, but requires the all 6 glitch (in which case you can also switch Barrier to Shield Recharge too, since passive gives you the extra force in Shockwave to exceed the magic 1000 force. Force is important. Why I have it in my name).

[Darth Volus]

I guess you never play drunk or... something else. Because that's when Shaman busts loose for super smooth relaxing matches regardless of the pug quality... until you get sync-killed. Then everybody goes back to the lobby, do not pass go. And send that Sinful to jail. XXX

 

 

Remember how I said I hated Banshee's in the past. Believe it or not, my Shaman loves Banshees, especially double ones. Because my booms are that fast. I even focus on bosses with Shaman when they are surrounded out in the open with me out in the open, because I can. And Shotguns are still an option for my build, but requires the all 6 glitch (in which case you can also switch Barrier to Shield Recharge too, since passive gives you the extra force in Shockwave to exceed the magic 1000 force. Force is important. Why I have it in my name).

 

No matter how fast your Warp or Shockwave is, once the Banshees stop teleporting, all your Warps will blocked by their demon barrier thing and only weapon damage matters at that point. And they mostly stop teleporting after 1 BE from Warp - Shockwave. 

 

And I don't really need passives because I'm on PC and on PC the radius on Shockwave is glitched, so I pick Force and Damage and get over 1000 N.

[Terminator Force]

I see you didn't read my OP. Once the hand of denial comes up, a fast second Warp follow catches her off guard, to which you follow up with Sockwave for that massive dmg only a Warp/Shockwave biotic boom provides. Trust me. Biggest Biotic Booms every 2.25s or less is what makes this kit very impressive. Everything around those booms stagger and take massive dmg, why its also so easy to run around out in the open. 

 

Ditto for Phantom denial. Never have to worry about on-host Phantoms with him regardless of weapon.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I'm not impressed with Shaman no matter the build. As a biotic, he's weak and probably the worst one out of all of them (save for the Volus Adept) As a Krogan melee kit, he's one of the worst too, as other Krogans do it better and they have powers off cooldown (grenades) or better survivability (Kroguard, Warlord)and they have more melee damage bonuses. 

 

And I will never equip puny weapons like pistols or SMG's on my Krogans. My Krogans go with a Shotgun. Preferably a Claymore. 

 

Krogan Shaman in my book should've been a female (they have the model) with completely unique powers instead of a rehash. 

 

That's exactly the problem with that kit. It's a weaker version of existing kits, lacks a dodge and has nothing to make up for it. As an adept the HA outperforms it in every single area, even melee.

This is why I use it as barrier bomber... one mission and you easily earn the 50k barrier damage for the challenge. That's all it's good for.

[Darth Volus]

I see you didn't read my OP. Once the hand of denial comes up, a fast second Warp follow catches her off guard, to which you follow up with Sockwave for that massive dmg only a Warp/Shockwave biotic boom provides. Trust me. Biggest Biotic Booms every 2.25s or less is what makes this kit very impressive. Everything around those booms stagger and take massive dmg, why its also so easy to run around out in the open. 

 

Ditto for Phantom denial. Never have to worry about on-host Phantoms with him regardless of weapon.

 

LOL. You have no idea what you're talking about. Once she starts blocking she stops everything, even DOT damage. The only time you can prime her again is when she screams or starts teleporting again. 

 

The only fast way to kill Banshees as a Shaman is to Incendiary glitch with Warp or Reegar them. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

I see you didn't read my OP. Once the hand of denial comes up, a fast second Warp follow catches her off guard, to which you follow up with Sockwave for that massive dmg only a Warp/Shockwave biotic boom provides. Trust me. Biggest Biotic Booms every 2.25s or less is what makes this kit very impressive. Everything around those booms stagger and take massive dmg, why its also so easy to run around out in the open. 

 

Ditto for Phantom denial. Never have to worry about on-host Phantoms with him regardless of weapon.

 

That's nonsense.

 

The moment the hand comes up, the shield is already there. At most you could interrupt the sequence by forcing her into melee but with a Shaman that's suicide unless you're on a ramp.

 

Phantoms aren't a problem, that is correct. Just barrier-blast them into the sky.

[PopcornMasterRace]

NO

 

I do not spec into melee

 

things die so fast on gold you dont have time for that crap

[Homey C-Dawg]

Warp, Melee, Shockwave, Melee, Profit.

[Terminator Force]

Binary Helix, while HA runs in fear of swarmers next to the guy yelling my soup. Or when his Shockwave encounters the swarmer squirm of denial (due to 2 enemy Shockwave limit). The Shaman walks over the swarmers, right into a puking ravagers mouth then proceeding to get the job done with one glorious most dps biotic boom and some weapon or another boom. That may also take care of other swarmers because lol team mates. That's Krogan Shaman.

 

LOL. You have no idea what you're talking about. Once she starts blocking she stops everything, even DOT damage. The only time you can prime her again is when she screams or starts teleporting again. 

 

The only fast way to kill Banshees as a Shaman is to Incendiary glitch with Warp or Reegar them. 

 

Must of been on some real great stuff then, because I thought I was doing in every match that involved Banshee's or Phantoms. Or maybe it's an exclusive PS3 feature? (My 360 Shaman is not yet leveled up because been too busy with real life today, but I'll get that account as soon as I'm done here. So will let you know)

 

That's exactly the problem with that kit. It's a weaker version of existing kits, lacks a dodge and has nothing to make up for it. As an adept the HA outperforms it in every single area, even melee.

This is why I use it as barrier bomber... one mission and you easily earn the 50k barrier damage for the challenge. That's all it's good for.

 

The trade off to no dodge is super tankyness (1850 Health & Shields, 30 dmg reduction, 2.80 Shield regen speed) that doesn't require Cyclonic Mods, thus making Adren Mod 3 he perfect fit that allows close quarter maneuvering and playing the position game (just don't bring auto-semi auto weapons, because his combat speed could be better, since holding the fire trigger on these weapons reduce the extra Adren Mod 3 speeds that you will need if out in the open because you can sidestep dodge shots from Ravagers, Primes, etc. via this method or just heavy melee dmg deduction them while you wait on the 2.25s biotic boom stagger all things crowd control. Basically L2Krogan Shaman).

 

 

ie. This build gets you to stop playing too much RHA and learning more about how to tank and handle everything more out in the open as you get a better and better hang of this Shaman build. Thus a fresh perspective to playing this game. So don't worry if you don't get it right away. Give it time, as I didn't stumble upon it overnight. But remember, no more then 2.25s Warp cooldown, 30dmg reduction & max fitness, otherwise your not playing my build anymore.

 

 

 

 

 

[Terminator Force]

That's nonsense.

 

The moment the hand comes up, the shield is already there. At most you could interrupt the sequence by forcing her into melee but with a Shaman that's suicide unless you're on a ramp.

 

Phantoms aren't a problem, that is correct. Just barrier-blast them into the sky.

 

No, biotic boom them into the sky.

[Darth Volus]

HA doesn't run from swarmer. He simply casts Singularity on them and walks through. 

[Terminator Force]

But what if other swarmers snuck behind you? Or does the guy yelling "My soup!" Give them away?

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I use him as a hybrid melee-biotic character and it's a lot of fun. On waves where there's nothing to melee, it gives me a whole lot more to do than shoot my gun and launch the occasional incinerate or throw the errant lift grenade.

[Terminator Force]

I use him as a hybrid melee-biotic character and it's a lot of fun. On waves where there's nothing to melee, it gives me a whole lot more to do than shoot my gun and launch the occasional incinerate or throw the errant lift grenade.

 

Dude, totally off topic.

[Black_Mage]

 

Why not have both? 

 

Warp + Shockwave combos are really difficult to pull off when using the Claymore. 

[Darth Volus]

Warp + Shockwave combos are really difficult to pull off when using the Claymore. 

 

You don't really need to pull of a combo, just Warp and shoot for 15% more damage   And maybe teammates detonate it. All in all Warp is a super nice debuff that shoudn't be skipped.  

[Black_Mage]

You don't really need to pull of a combo, just Warp and shoot for 15% more damage   And maybe teammates detonate it. All in all Warp is a super nice debuff that shoudn't be skipped.  

 

Warp is probably more effective but Shockwave to toss enemies around is way more Krogan-y.

^^

[RidiculousMammal]

LOL, nobody is gonna do that. Who's going to put Power Recharge consumable and gear on top of 200% CD and skip Barrier for a measly 0.2 second gain? Who's gonna not take Geth Scanner or something similar that help a lot more? You have to a complete idiot to do that. 

 

And no matter how you cut it, the Human Adept is 10X better at Biotic Explosions than the Shaman. He can do Warp and Shockwave like the Shaman, but he can also do double Singularity explosions. He can immediately incapacitate 2 health/shield mooks and shoot something else while they are floating in the air. 

 

It's not even close to compare HA and KS, KS can only take a few shots more and melee more reliably, that's it. 

 

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  Everything you said is so true.  He's easily the worst Krogan.   I lied to myself just to be different from everyone else, but you broke me with that fact bomb.

[Terminator Force]

You don't really need to pull of a combo, just Warp and shoot for 15% more damage   And maybe teammates detonate it. All in all Warp is a super nice debuff that shoudn't be skipped.  

 

Maybe is not good enough? One boom does area dmg. So it's like setting off a grenade. Much better then going rambo on one enemy or that maybe a team mate "might" detonate that primed Banshee about to grab you that could really use a stagger to slap that other Banshee moving in for the kill too in case the first one misses, and the mooks around it going "pew, pew!"

 

Yeah, I pug a lot, and kitchin sink killed Sinful means I don't even have time to finish my smoke break because I'm back in the lobby and the pugs demand I switch the stage ASAP or they bail thinking I'm one of those guy playing the same stage over and over like Goddess is my fire, my desire. Because the pugs cry "No-frames!" And "Too difficult because too small!" When it's the single more perfect size map in the game.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Dude, totally off topic.

Wut? I'm comparing him to Krentinel and the Krodept's versatility.

Maybe that's the joke in your mind...I don't know.