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[9TailsFox]

Nothing really shows Kieran had a choice in it. In fact he was surprised by it. And I'm not looking down or degrading Flemeth, I'm just pointing out she is not as powerful as she was. The fact remain the only way to turn it around on Solas was to make it not happen. Solas is not one to break under anyone's will.

And this is there we disagree Kieran or more Urthemiel look like calm and know what exactly happening. Solas is not as powerful as he was.

Just think for a moment logically. You telling Solas is stronger then Flemeth.

 

The guy who come to take power because he is to weak is stronger then the person he is taking power from. What I just write make no sense. But you saying it's true.

 

Flemeth so strong warden kills her she still alive.Solas just wake up from Uthenera he is not god he just elf, and he don't have all knowledge in the universe. Even he don't know everything about orb and mark. He ask Inquisitor dos orb change you. And he don't know everything mark can do. He know a lot but not everything. 

You think like Solas is One above all then he is just Loki.

[leaguer of one]

And this is there we disagree Kieran or more Urthemiel look like calm and know what exactly happening. Solas is not as powerful as he was.

Just think for a moment logically. You telling Solas is stronger then Flemeth.

 

The guy who come to take power because he is to weak is stronger then the person he is taking power from. What I just write make no sense. But you saying it's true.

 

Flemeth so strong warden kills her she still alive.Solas just wake up from Uthenera he is not god he just elf, and he don't have all knowledge in the universe. Even he don't know everything about orb and mark. He ask Inquisitor dos orb change you. And he don't know everything mark can do. He know a lot but not everything. 

You think like Solas is One above all then he is just Thor.

In what why does he looks like he knows what's going on? He even ask "No more dreams?" Like he's asking if he wounding if what's done is ok and what going to happen next. And even before that he was giving a look the Flemeth like he did not know what to do between staying with his mom or going with her.

 

And yes, what you wrote makes sense. You're just cutting context.

 

And flemeth is not alive because of her strength. She is still alive because of her trickery. In fact that even more of a reason she would be weaker being how she is still alive is that she put a small sliver of herself in an amulet. She's a sliver of a sliver.

And Solas never asked if the orb changed you...He asked if the Anchor change the quis. No thing shows that he does not know all of what the anchor can do. He's asking the question because he has a history with it and people with that power who over time grew to abuse it and is wondering why you have not.

[Lethaya]

In savefiles in which she was killed, the sliver part is quite true (or, well, sliver of a sliver part anyway). But remember, she didn't die for everyone, yes?

 

Actually, nothing says he's not powerful enough. Remember, he planned to take the foci after Cory on locked it. The unexpected explosion stopped that from happening. He joined the inquisition to close the breach and take the foci back form Cory.

 

Yes, and his dialogue also implies he may well have expected Cory to die. Only he didn't. XD
 

Anyways, I was really just pointing out that obviously Solas is at a bit of a disadvantage power wise in Inquisition. That's why he needs help with the orb from Cory, why he needs the Inquisition, and why he needs Flemeth. Heck, he even drops in my party to bears and dragons and the like on occasion! ;D

 

So much for that digression, huh?

 

Nothing really shows Kieran had a choice in it. In fact he was surprised by it. And I'm not looking down or degrading Flemeth, I'm just pointing out she is not as powerful as she was. The fact remain the only way to turn it around on Solas was to make it not happen. Solas is not one to break under anyone's will.

 

Hum. And Flemeth is?

[9TailsFox]

In what why does he looks like he knows what's going on? He even ask "No more dreams?" Like he's asking if he wounding if what's done is ok and what going to happen next. And even before that he was giving a look the Flemeth like he did not know what to do between staying with his mom or going with her.

 

And yes, what you wrote makes sense. You're just cutting context.

 

And flemeth is not alive because of her strength. She is still alive because of her trickery. In fact that even more of a reason she would be weaker being how she is still alive is that she put a small sliver of herself in an amulet. She's a sliver of a sliver.

And Solas never asked if the orb changed you...He asked if the Anchor change the quis. No thing shows that he does not know all of what the anchor can do. He's asking the question because he has a history with it and people with that power who over time grew to abuse it and is wondering why you have not.

Kirean always look like this weird like Sandal. But he knows more then you think. He knows about titans and who Qunari actually are.

And like I said you making Solas larger than light Solas is not Jehovah at best he is lowest angel. Solas is not god. Elven god are glorified rulers. Yes Solas smart so is Flemeth. And she give Solas her power freely if we believe developer notes. Solas is just elf he makes mistakes as we see with orb. He is flawed like all.

[9TailsFox]

Mythal is dead ..All hail the new Mythal.

After she gets Mythal power.

[David Gaider]

Yes I read something, someone copied from somewhere and say it's developers notes. So what I say it's true Flemythal send her soul to Morrigan. And gives power to Solas willingly. And writers can easy change something.[/spoiler]

 

That last sentence is a good one to remember, particular when it comes to info gleaned from embedded notes which are a) often legacy, and not part of the actual text (they're written as context for the actors, but not necessarily always true). So they may be true or have been true/partially true at some point...just don't rely on them to be canonical (if you are).

[9TailsFox]

That last sentence is a good one to remember, particular when it comes to info gleaned from embedded notes which are a) often legacy, and not part of the actual text (they're written as context for the actors, but not necessarily always true). So they may be true or have been true/partially true at some point...just don't rely on them to be canonical (if you are).

Maker has spoken. Thank you for responding. Like I said all we think we know at this point is just speculation. From what we know writer can make Mythal poses Morrigan, Morrigan and Solas free other elven god and all ride on gryphons to take sunburst throne.

 

And to leaguer of one i win.  Just kidding was nice discussing with you.

[Urzon]

That last sentence is a good one to remember, particular when it comes to info gleaned from embedded notes which are a) often legacy, and not part of the actual text (they're written as context for the actors, but not necessarily always true). So they may be true or have been true/partially true at some point...just don't rely on them to be canonical (if you are).

Something that forumites everywhere need to be reminded of sometimes, even if it's like our bitter medicine.

"This could be subject to change."

The Gaider Has Spoken!

[Aren]

Souls cannot be forced upon the unwilling?

Use some cheat, like blood magic mind control or the taint like Corypheus, to bypass this limit.

 

 

Anyway on the whole DR and Kieran affair,it is clear that Flemeth had used Kieran and Morrigan since the begining

 

 basically Flemeth has used both Kieran as a container to clean the soul for her purpose, and Morrigan to complete the ritual, that is imho pretty evil if you ask my opinion, Mythal is willing to do anything to take her revenge it seems.

 

[rashie]

I don't think she is lying but I don't think the players know the whole plot either at this point, flemeth may very well have done things and hold knowledge that the player base isn't aware of.

[AH37]

For me I refuse to believe that Flemeth is dead.

 

They can't kill her like that after all the build up; if so, she should have stayed dead when my warden killed her.

 

But then, one of my 6 wardens killed her.

 

Serious reply ends.

____

 

but if she's truly dead then. I WILL BREAK INQUISITION AND KILL THE BALDIE BEFORE IT HAPPENS!

 

WITH BEES! HE MAY SCREAM IN AGONY ALL HE CAN NO ONE WILL HELP HIM! he can't use healing magic too, because reasons.

 

perhaps a static cage with wall of fire and ice? closest to storm of the century + fire.

 

or I will storm BioWare keep and claim it as my own until they bring her back! * I will be able to customize too *

[Aren]

That last sentence is a good one to remember, particular when it comes to info gleaned from embedded notes which are a) often legacy, and not part of the actual text (they're written as context for the actors, but not necessarily always true). So they may be true or have been true/partially true at some point...just don't rely on them to be canonical (if you are).

I hope that they are not true, i do not wish to have a spoilered story years before its release,the more it's  an unpredictable mystery the better.

[leaguer of one]

Maker has spoken. Thank you for responding. Like I said all we think we know at this point is just speculation. From what we know writer can make Mythal poses Morrigan, Morrigan and Solas free other elven god and all ride on gryphons to take sunburst throne.

 

And to leaguer of one i win.  Just kidding was nice discussing with you.

You would of won something if I was arguing by using the dev note....I wasn't. I was using Solas' Fresco.

[leaguer of one]

 

 

 

Hum. And Flemeth is?

Facing someone who I know as the god of trickery and has as much knowledge of Spirit/soul binding as she does. She really can't trick the dread wolf.

[Urzon]

Facing someone who I know as the god of trickery and has as much knowledge of Spirit/soul binding as she does. She really can't trick the dread wolf.

I'm not sure if I would call him the "God of Trickery" anymore, especially since that title seemed to be based more on the Dalish's dated misconceptions of his character and sheer lack of knowledge on the matter.

Plus, if anyone was able to see through the "Dread Wolf"'s tricks and possibly hoodwink him, it would be Mythal. She's been around for as long as he has, if not longer, and she seen how he worked his deceptions and tricks over the years. Not to mention, they seemed to be close friends before her (first) murder. If Solas would be letting down his guard for anyone, it would be her, even more so if he thinks she's dead and his plan succeeded.

[leaguer of one]

I'm not sure if I would call him the "God of Trickery" anymore, especially since that title seemed to be based more on the Dalish's dated misconceptions of his character and sheer lack of knowledge on the matter.

Plus, if anyone was able to see through the "Dread Wolf"'s tricks and possibly hoodwink him, it would be Mythal. She's been around for as long as he has, if not longer, and she seen how he worked his deceptions and tricks over the years. Not to mention, they seemed to be close friends before her (first) murder. If Solas would be letting down his guard for anyone, it would be her, even more so if he thinks she's dead and his plan succeeded.

Dude, he's still that. He tricks the entire Inquisition, Morrigan into drinking from the well, Cory, and everyone he's met since introing this game. He is still a trickster.

 

And I'm not say Mythals way out is to see through his trick. She knows who he is. My point is that she can't trick him, he would see it a mile away. And his guard was not down.

[9TailsFox]

Facing someone who I know as the god of trickery and has as much knowledge of Spirit/soul binding as she does. She really can't trick the dread wolf.

Solas is god of rebellion. We don't even know if he trick anyone. Again you talking about Solas like he is perfect being. Solas just wake up. Flemeth lived all this time.  And Flemeth is "god" to. She know Solas coming is is prepared for it, she just waiting him.

 

Mythal (mith-al) the Protector and the All-Mother, and goddess of love, is the patron of motherhood and justice and leads the pantheon with her male counterpart, Elgar'nan.  Yes this sound exactly like Flemeth mother of the year.

 

You can trow all the eleven story's to the trash. Elfs use vallaslin as symbol of pride then actually it slaves markings.

[leaguer of one]

For me I refuse to believe that Flemeth is dead.

 

They can't kill her like that after all the build up; if so, she should have stayed dead when my warden killed her.

 

But then, one of my 6 wardens killed her.

 

Serious reply ends.

____

 

but if she's truly dead then. I WILL BREAK INQUISITION AND KILL THE BALDIE BEFORE IT HAPPENS!

 

WITH BEES! HE MAY SCREAM IN AGONY ALL HE CAN NO ONE WILL HELP HIM! he can't use healing magic too, because reasons.

 

perhaps a static cage with wall of fire and ice? closest to storm of the century + fire.

 

or I will storm BioWare keep and claim it as my own until they bring her back! * I will be able to customize too *

1. Morrigan makes it a point that the Warden can't really kill her from dao.

2. Her facing a so called god is different.

3. And She's passing the torch to Morrigan.

 

You better get started hunting

[c0bra951]

That last sentence is a good one to remember, particular when it comes to info gleaned from embedded notes which are a) often legacy, and not part of the actual text (they're written as context for the actors, but not necessarily always true). So they may be true or have been true/partially true at some point...just don't rely on them to be canonical (if you are).

 

In other words, you're free to make it up as you go along.  I wouldn't have it any other way.  As I said, the notes present a consistent explanation for what happened visually.  Then again, Spock died at the end of Wrath of Khan.  In certain genres, there is no finality imposed on anything.

[leaguer of one]

Solas is god of rebellion. We don't even know if he trick anyone. Again you talking about Solas like he is perfect being. Solas just wake up. Flemeth lived all this time.  And Flemeth is "god" to. She know Solas coming is is prepared for it, she just waiting him.

 

Mythal (mith-al) the Protector and the All-Mother, and goddess of love, is the patron of motherhood and justice and leads the pantheon with her male counterpart, Elgar'nan.  Yes this sound exactly like Flemeth mother of the year.

 

You can trow all the eleven story's to the trash. Elfs use vallaslin as symbol of pride then actually it slaves markings.

Yet he does nothing but trick people in the games story.

 

And the Mythal you see in dai is just a wispier of what she was who was trying to pass the tourch to her daughter. She went to where Solas is fully knowing what was going to happen. Even putting here power in to the mirror. The last time she did that was with the amulet she gave to Hawke when she was about to be killed by the warden. When ever she does that she knows she's going to die.

[9TailsFox]

Dude, he's still that. He tricks the entire Inquisition, Morrigan into drinking from the well, Cory, and everyone he's met since introing this game. He is still a trickster.

 

And I'm not say Mythals way out is to see through his trick. She knows who he is. My point is that she can't trick him, he would see it a mile away. And his guard was not down.

He tricks no one. He helped Inquisition to fix mistake he made. No one forcing Morrigan to drink only her overconfidence. Solas tricked Cory? this is exactly opposite his plan failed. Flemeth can trick anyone she wants she is Hera of Elven pantheon, somehow she knows stuff before it happens. She told king Maric blight will happen before it happened, She told Loghain will betray and it was true. You accepting that Solas is smarter then Flemeth like its a fact then actually it's opposite.

[leaguer of one]

He tricks no one. He helped Inquisition to fix mistake he made. No one forcing Morrigan to drink only her overconfidence. Solas tricked Cory? this is exactly opposite his plan failed. Flemeth can trick anyone she wants she is Hera of Elven pantheon, somehow she knows stuff before it happens. She told king Maric blight will happen before it happened, She told Loghain will betray and it was true. You aceptink that Solas is smarter then Flemeth like its a fact then actually it's opposite.

You're kidding right?

http://dragonage.wik...x_entry:_Solas 

"Inquisitor,

Despite my efforts, I have been unable to locate Solas. From the site of your battle withCorypheus, he was last seen headed west, still distraught over the destruction of the orbCorypheus carried. From there he disappeared, evading my people so easily and so completely that I am forced to wonder how much he knew about them.

When Solas initially approached the Inquisition and offered aid, I questioned him extensively about his background and history. He was evasive, but he did give the name of the village where he grew up, noting that it was small, unlikely to appear on any map.

I hate loose ends, so I kept a few of my agents searching, to verify his story. They recently located the village... or what remains of it. It is a ruin, as it has been for centuries, its name preserved only in degraded form in Ancient Tevinter mysteries. Whoever Solas truly is, wherever he came from, he has deceived us from the very start.

I apologize for not investigating this more thoroughly while Solas was here. He was clearly helping us, and other matters were of greater urgency, but it was an oversight nevertheless, given how little he shared with us. It is not clear what his plans are, if any, but I will continue to search.

Leliana"

 

He tricked everyone in the inquisition. Heck, right now no one knows he's the one responsible for giving the orb to Cory. he does not lie but he does trick with half truths and reflective responses with everything but the source of his info. and yes, he tricked Cory. The only reason his planned fail because the inquisitor got involved, not because Cory saw through it and worked around it.

[9TailsFox]

Yet he does nothing but trick people in the games story.

 

And the Mythal you see in dai is just a wispier of what she was who was trying to pass the tourch to her daughter. She went to where Solas is fully knowing what was going to happen. Even putting here power in to the mirror. The last time she did that was with the amulet she gave to Hawke when she was about to be killed by the warden. When ever she does that she knows she's going to die.

Solas never tricked Inquisitor he just didn't tell the true who he was same as Blackwall. And Solas just wake up he have no power, he so weak he need help to open the orb, his plan failed so he need get power from somewhere else like Mythal.

[9TailsFox]

You're kidding right?

http://dragonage.wik...x_entry:_Solas 

"Inquisitor,

Despite my efforts, I have been unable to locate Solas. From the site of your battle withCorypheus, he was last seen headed west, still distraught over the destruction of the orbCorypheus carried. From there he disappeared, evading my people so easily and so completely that I am forced to wonder how much he knew about them.

When Solas initially approached the Inquisition and offered aid, I questioned him extensively about his background and history. He was evasive, but he did give the name of the village where he grew up, noting that it was small, unlikely to appear on any map.

I hate loose ends, so I kept a few of my agents searching, to verify his story. They recently located the village... or what remains of it. It is a ruin, as it has been for centuries, its name preserved only in degraded form in Ancient Tevinter mysteries. Whoever Solas truly is, wherever he came from, he has deceived us from the very start.

I apologize for not investigating this more thoroughly while Solas was here. He was clearly helping us, and other matters were of greater urgency, but it was an oversight nevertheless, given how little he shared with us. It is not clear what his plans are, if any, but I will continue to search.

Leliana"

 

He tricked everyone in the inquisition. Heck, right now no one knows he's the one responsible for giving the orb to Cory. he does not lie but he does trick with half truths and reflective responses with everything but the source of his info. and yes, he tricked Cory. The only reason his planned fail because the inquisitor got involved, not because Cory saw through it and worked around it.

So you what expect him to come and say "Hi my name if Fen'Harel I responsible for hole in the sky please help me fix it" Cassandra would go nuts. And Leliana is incompetent.

[zambingo]

I hope that they are not true, i do not wish to have a spoilered story years before its release,the more it's an unpredictable mystery the better.

If true, it's not Bioware's fault We mined the game. If We're spoiled that is on the community.