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[Eggpop]

I haven't done a unhardened playthrough yet, mostly because I'm always inclined to let Leliana kill the traitor at the start of the game. As for her dark persona, it's not so much that she went dark that bothered me. It's more that I didn't find her dark persona particularly convincing. Like when she kills the Chantry sister and starts rambling on about how it was a good thing to kill her and she's good at killing and killing suits her. Felt kind of... forced and insincere.  

 

I can see why it irks you and I also find the whole 'I am the death' talk awkward xD..... But when I look back it feels like it does make sense. Her inner conflicts in Inquisition is like a darker version of what she had in Origin where she struggles between a hopeful Chantry sister and a dark bard. Except in the Inquisition she had gone further in her work as a bard/Left hand because Divine Justinia's 'game' wasn't trifling as Marjolean's 'game' so obviously it was more than just 'I enjoy the thrill of the game' and rather 'all these merciless shitty murderous jobs I had to do'. And I feel like it fine-lined what Leliana had to do as the Left Hand of the Divine.

 

I also think it has stuff related to how she's very dependent on people she finds inspirational (aka Marjolean, The Warden, Divine Justinia, The Inquisitor) to identify her purpose in the world of the Maker and perhaps that's why she always tries to define herself according to the purpose given by these authoritative figures. That's my dumb 2 cents anyway

 

 

How does he showing little emotion about her action make it feel like it's forced?

 

 

Maybe because it's called an opinion on the character and the way the developers executed such scene

[leaguer of one]

 

 

 

 

Then the 1 year timeline doesn't really account for all the back and forth travelling, the raising of armies, provisions etc that the game lets you do. Unless the continent happens to be pretty small.

 

 

 

 

Unless, of course, if the place only became a desolate ruin some time after a road was built to it. By your logic taking the imperial highway to Ostagar is incredulous.

 

 

 

  

And I'm saying even if you account for the Tevinter border distance (which is actually helpful given the Imperial highway will cover a good part of your trip) and the final bit of the trip being more difficult (assuming no ancillary roads or even rivers), the excuse still doesn't hold. We get intel from Qunari HQ in Por Vallen literally on the opposite side of the map, we manage to do things like clear a proper road through the frostbacks, go off trailing to the Shard Oasis and the Hissing Wastes, send expeditions to the deep roads etc etc...

 

 

Because it felt more like the actress was talking to herself about what Leliana had done rather than Leliana having a conversation with the Inquisitor.

 

1. or that this is a game of choice and the story does not not cover every detail of the players action.

 

2.Which it's not.  It's not a ruin after a road was build to it.

 

3.You do understand that intel form the qunari takes time to come up on the war table. That does not support your claim. sorry, but no matter what it's going to take time. Your compering info sent by boat and road , that even then take time to travel to getting info from a place in the middle of no where. that's not that same.

 

4. Not really. The fact it's  back and forth conversation with the quis means it not. and the use "you"  refering to the quis as well in the statement.

she becomes more neutral and colder and the scene goes on. It's the lack of emotion that makes it scary. The fact that the killing is more a matter of fact now then a dramatic thing to her unlike the Leliana we seen in the past. This Leliana would crush you like a bug and be indifferent about it.  That can't be forced.

[AH37]

I believe this topic is about Flemeth lying or simply misunderstood, not the baldie and princess stabby.

[Eggpop]

I'm pretty sure baldie is involved in the original point of the topic XD just that me and the others took the highway and sidetracked this thread with Lelianna cos who doesn't like stabbing?

 

But you're right, probably best to stop here and take it to Leliana's thread if we want to continue it.

[leaguer of one]

I believe this topic is about Flemeth lying or simply misunderstood, not the baldie and princess stabby.

Ok. My point is that the fact Baldie was able to trick Princess Stabby and the entire inquisition is a point to the fact the Flemeth can't trick Baldie into giving her that upper had in the end of dai. That Solas did kill Flemeth.

[sim-ran]

Since this thread has been hijacked I may as well throw in my two cents.

Vivienne didn't fall for Solas' story. When she gave the Inquisitor her view on him it was one of the only times I felt the warm fuzzies for her.

(for those that have never seen she says 'I don't know what to make of Solas. So much knowledge and so little personal history... I find that... peculiar, don't you?')

[leaguer of one]

Since this thread has been hijacked I may as well throw in my two cents.

Vivienne didn't fall for Solas' story. When she gave the Inquisitor her view on him it was one of the only times I felt the warm fuzzies for her.

(for those that have never seen she says 'I don't know what to make of Solas. So much knowledge and so little personal history... I find that... peculiar, don't you?')

Finding it odd does not mean supposition. Added, she has her own resourced to check up on him as well. And not that most everyone equally mistrust her as well.

[Lethaya]

Ok. My point is that the fact Baldie was able to trick Princess Stabby and the entire inquisition is a point to the fact the Flemeth can't trick Baldie into giving her that upper had in the end of dai. That Solas did kill Flemeth.

 

Doesn't mean that Flemeth couldn't trick him, though. It seems to me the Elvhen gods were all full of tricks. Falon'din starting wars to gain more followers seems tricksey, for instance. And Mythal was no exception - look at her defeat of Andruil, when she transformed into a great beast, ambushed the Huntress, and defeated her to rid Elvhenan of the threat she posed. She walked out of the sea and calmed Elgar'nan, made him do a complete 180% on his whole anti-sun agenda. She was Flemeth, the witch of the wilds, well known for her lies and highly manipulative nature. Her daughters are much the same in that regard, Yavana even acknowledges it. Their lies are a tool to accomplish their goals. Look at what she did in DA:O with Morrigan, how she chose to appear to the Warden - were those not tricks?

 

Odds are Solas was a god of rebellion if anything, who has played tricks just like the rest. It simply turns out that the Great Betrayal was a very, very memorable trick indeed. Doesn't mean that's what embodies him, though.

 

Also why can't it be that no one was tricked, that Flemythal gave in of her own volition? She knew he was coming. Most likely she knew what he wanted, and that's why she felt the need to send whatever she sent through the Eluvian, and sympathize with his situation. Thus ultimately he wouldn't have tricked her, he wouldn't have betrayed her, regardless of what he did or said to Leliana. Also? Easy enough to lead Leliana astray, who was seriously distracted, kind of a mess emotionally, and didn't know him at all. Another matter entirely for Flemythal, someone who has known him for literal ages, who seems keenly aware of almost everything going on in Thedas and has a finger in every pie, who he was apparently pretty close to if her temple is anything to judge by, and who he saw as the admirable mother figure of their cultural whatever.

[leaguer of one]

 

 

Also why can't it be that no one was tricked, that Flemythal gave in of her own volition? She knew he was coming. Most likely she knew what he wanted, and that's why she felt the need to send whatever she sent through the Eluvian, and sympathize with his situation. Thus ultimately he wouldn't have tricked her, he wouldn't have betrayed her, regardless of what he did or said to Leliana. Also? Easy enough to lead Leliana astray, who was seriously distracted, kind of a mess emotionally, and didn't know him at all. Another matter entirely for Flemythal, someone who has known him for literal ages, who seems keenly aware of almost everything going on in Thedas and has a finger in every pie, who he was apparently pretty close to if her temple is anything to judge by, and who he saw as the admirable mother figure of their cultural whatever.

That's my point. There was no tricks going on in the last scene and no way to do it. She let herself die to further her ends.

[Iakus]

That last sentence is a good one to remember, particular when it comes to info gleaned from embedded notes which are a) often legacy, and not part of the actual text (they're written as context for the actors, but not necessarily always true). So they may be true or have been true/partially true at some point...just don't rely on them to be canonical (if you are).

 

So it's true "from a certain point of view"?  

 

At any rate, given Flemeth rarely if ever gave us straight answers

 

Solas was lying to us from the start (so who knows how often he was just playing dumb)

 

And we still don't really know the nature of Old Gods and therefore, what was up with Kieran.

 

I'd say we really don't know what happened between Solas/FLemeth at the very end, besides what is directly shown on the screen, which certainly has heavy implications of "that's not good" 

[Aren]

 

 

Lesson:  Don't make choices you know come with a heavy price... when you know neither 1) the reward nor 2) the heavy price.  

 

Bioware is teaching life lessons people.

it's seems like the whole DR affair ,ah dejavu!  

[Dai Grepher]

1. And they clearly believed his lie. That's why it's a trick. Sorry but by the very definition he tricked everyone in the inquisition.

2.Did you not play the game? Everyone believed every word he said about who he was and we're he go his info.  that's a trick.

 

3.No, that just means you asking why he knows about the orb...which he responds with " the fade" and that ends all questions about it. You never show any disbelief about it. and it was a lie.

 

4.that's one way to do it...If she had the incense to do that. black wall never did anything to have her disbelieve him.

 

5.Grasping straws are we? It too simple not to of been left out.

 

1. No he didn't. That's just your opinion.

 

2. No they didn't. You've provided no proof that they ever believed his story. The fact that Leliana was investigating his story (albeit not very well due to her incompetence as a spymaster) proves that she was not tricked by him (as incompetent as she was).

 

3. "Alright, what is the orb and how do you know about it", is an interrogative tone, not a casual one. This proves that you are not tricked by what he tells you, and that you demand answers. The fact that he gives a vague answer and then changes the subject does not mean you accepted his statement as truth. It only means you did not press the issue at that time.

 

4. Blackwall was part of the Inquisitor's inner circle. That alone is cause to verify that each member can be trusted.

 

5. Grasping at straws by asking you to prove your own claim? No. That's called demanding proof. Your premise is that the outline was finished, but that premise is baseless. What if the eye is where Solas decided to stop drawing? What if Solas heard that the breach reopened right as he was about to start on the eye? You have no evidence that this depicts Fen'Harel slaying Mythal with a sword (which he doesn't use). And why would his next plan be painted on the Inquisition's wall exactly? Logically the last panel will show the Inquisition's victory.

[leaguer of one]

1. No he didn't. That's just your opinion.

 

2. No they didn't. You've provided no proof that they ever believed his story. The fact that Leliana was investigating his story (albeit not very well due to her incompetence as a spymaster) proves that she was not tricked by him (as incompetent as she was).

 

3. "Alright, what is the orb and how do you know about it", is an interrogative tone, not a casual one. This proves that you are not tricked by what he tells you, and that you demand answers. The fact that he gives a vague answer and then changes the subject does not mean you accepted his statement as truth. It only means you did not press the issue at that time.

 

4. Blackwall was part of the Inquisitor's inner circle. That alone is cause to verify that each member can be trusted.

 

5. Grasping at straws by asking you to prove your own claim? No. That's called demanding proof. Your premise is that the outline was finished, but that premise is baseless. What if the eye is where Solas decided to stop drawing? What if Solas heard that the breach reopened right as he was about to start on the eye? You have no evidence that this depicts Fen'Harel slaying Mythal with a sword (which he doesn't use). And why would his next plan be painted on the Inquisition's wall exactly? Logically the last panel will show the Inquisition's victory.

1. That the very definition of the word trick. That's the literal definition of the word trick.

 

2.leliana near double checks on everyone. And not one character show doubt about who he said he is.

3.That not an interrogation. that's a question which he awsered in a way that left no way to doubt him.

4. And he's a warden. who has done nothing to suspect foul play. Added, people trust wardens. 

5.more like you're trying to degrade the proof used agenst you. Sorry, but it's not hard to put the underline drawing of the quis symbol. if it was meant to be there it would be there.

[Dai Grepher]

I doubt Solas would tell Leliana his real age, only the one that will mislead her more. Neither does your points actually gear Leliana with enough clues to accurately discover Solas' lies. The fact that he became a hermit at some point away from civilization simply boggles hundreds of possibilities of who he could be, where he's from, which Leliana is simply not omniscience enough to find out. And according to Gaider, the roughly estimated the time period of the Inquisition is 3~4 years, which makes sense story wise considering the travel distances between each areas. There's a forum about it somewhere here.

 

And I think at this point you're simply expecting some kind of impossible perfection from her. Spies can get into Inquisition and it's not something Leliana can completely put to an end. She doesn't know, and can't, control people's loyalty and changes and the best she can do is to discover them at quick notice once a suspicion comes up. And I don't know exactly what Solas did to instigate this kind of immediate attention from her. Plus you've seem to have forgotten that it was Leliana's agent who saved Josephine life, as a counter to the potential Repose assassination attempt.

 

I'm not entirely sure why you're complaining about her incompetency and then turn the other cheek to say it's not competent for a spymaster to do shady business like assassination, torture, crippling people from shadows, shady dealings etc... Which is exactly what she dealt with as a bard, and exactly what Divine Justinia used her for. Also Her dark ending is subjective, some prefers the Divine to be diplomatic and peaceful while others prefer her to be vicious and iron-fist-ed (like Vivienne) so it's the matter of personal opinion, not the character's competency. So yes, Leliana isn't perfect but neither is she incompetent. 

 

As for the Redcliff future you're being a bit dramatic about it. The world was already doomed, Alexius (who has already gone too far) was going to receive death sentence from Coryfish and somehow killing his long gone blighted son puts the entire world into jeopardy? (I mean this can be counted as a mercy killing too). I personally tried to stop her in my canon play through but if you've paid enough attention to game, a year of tortures and experimentation have broken her beyond repair. Surely you can tell by how she states that 'no one is innocent' before silting Felix's throat (that broke my tiny heart) :c It's not even related to her being a spymaster so I'm not sure what your point is.

 

Really, some people expects her to be like an all knowing god for some reason :/

 

That's my point. If Solas declines to reveal his age or misleads her more, then it confirms that he can't be trusted. But Leliana did not ask the right questions or investigate this nearly enough. Gaider was referring how long it took to make the game. He misunderstood the question he was asked, and he has since clarified this. He did not say Inquisition's events happened over the course of years.

 

Yeah but I don't see Leliana stopping any of them. The Qunari can discover the spies in the Inquisition much better than she can, and the Qunari are only working through agents. And yes, it was Leliana's agent who protected Josephine, not Leliana herself. But so what? Josephine was being targeted for assassination. Posting bodyguards is only natural. What's her alternative, not to post them?
 

She's competent as a bard, but a good bard doesn't make for a good spymaster. The endings are proof that she needs the Inquisitor to define her. Vivienne? No. Cassandra? No. Only Leliana's method of leadership is subject to change based on the Inquisitor, and if the Inquisitor does not get involved with her for her personal quest, then she is indecisive and leads the Chantry to the brink of destruction. That proves she is incompetent.

 

Yes, killing Felix at that point put the actual world in jeopardy, because that set Alexius off and made him attack. If his attack had been successful then the Herald fails and the future takes place. This is compared to Leliana listening to the Herald, letting Felix go, and then having a strong possibility of Alexius simply turning the amulet over to Dorian without a fight. The Herald had the upper hand. He could have easily convinced Alexius that him and Dorian going back in time to prevent the future from happening would make up for his mistakes. Alexius, having been marked for death by his master anyway, would have agreed. But no, Leliana had to let her emotions get the better of her, and for no good reason. And because of that a tough battle ensued, a battle that could have cost the world everything.

 

Mercy killing? Felix isn't even supposed to be alive at that point. None of that future is supposed to happen. That's the point. Our goal was to get the amulet back and go back in time, thus preventing Felix from getting that way. We weren't there to mercy kill, or anger Alexius, or make empty proclamations about how we want the world back or how no one is innocent. If Leliana wanted to make herself useful, she would have stealthed up to Alexius and stole the amulet from him without him noticing. But no, she takes a hostage, and it wasn't even Alexius that she took from behind, it was Felix. And then what did she do once she had him? Killed him, thus destroying the only leverage they had over Alexius.

[Dai Grepher]

Seriously, why do people make this point thinking it's valid. The is a story in a world pre-renaissance with the world falling to pieces and the place he reference to is so far off it would take months to get to. Dragon age does not have google maps around or satellites to cheap up on this at an instant. to even check it would take many months. And based on her letter about Solas she was investigation  way before the end of the story any way. The point is, their is no way to suspect Solas for much of the plot of the game.

 

Because it is valid. It might take months to get to, and yet she still gets to it eventually. But she even admits her own mistake in not following up on it, deciding on her own that it wasn't important enough. So I'll agree with her that she failed yet again.

[Dai Grepher]

1. That the very definition of the word trick. That's the literal definition of the word trick.

 

2.leliana near double checks on everyone. And not one character show doubt about who he said he is.

3.That not an interrogation. that's a question which he awsered in a way that left no way to doubt him.

4. And he's a warden. who has done nothing to suspect foul play. Added, people trust wardens. 

5.more like you're trying to degrade the proof used agenst you. Sorry, but it's not hard to put the underline drawing of the quis symbol. if it was meant to be there it would be there.

 

1. Yeah, and he didn't do that. If he even tried, he failed to trick them because they didn't believe him. They kept him on because he was useful.

 

2. Vivienne does, as someone else here pointed out. The Inquisitor can, as I pointed out.

 

3. I wrote that the question had an interrogative tone, thus proving the Herald's disbelief/suspicion of Solas.

 

4. He claimed to be a Warden. Leliana should have been able to spot a fake, having experience with Wardens in the past. You just keep repeating the same refuted point. It doesn't matter if he did nothing to warrant suspicion. His story should be verified simply because of his proximity to the Herald.

 

5. Degrade what proof, and how? You are making a certain claim about an unfinished depiction that is open to interpretation. You don't know what it means. You can't even prove it depicts Mythal as you claim. There are many things missing from the picture. The background, foreground, coloring, and any other possible symbolism are not present. So you don't know that Solas was not planning to draw an eye on the sword to depict the Inquisition, and you don't even know that his outlines were finished. You don't know what Solas intended. You are simply projecting your own theory onto an abstract idea and then claiming the abstract depiction proves your theory.

 

I mean, by the same token I could claim that what you see is not Fen'Harel looking at Mythal with a sword in her head, no that's actually a dragonling that resembles a wolf laughing at the sight of a sword stuck in a pride demon's foot! I mean, if it were Mythal then it would have had an outline of her mosaic. It would have been so easy to draw.

[Lethaya]

1. That the very definition of the word trick. That's the literal definition of the word trick.

 

2.leliana near double checks on everyone. And not one character show doubt about who he said he is.

3.That not an interrogation. that's a question which he awsered in a way that left no way to doubt him.

4. And he's a warden. who has done nothing to suspect foul play. Added, people trust wardens. 

5.more like you're trying to degrade the proof used agenst you. Sorry, but it's not hard to put the underline drawing of the quis symbol. if it was meant to be there it would be there.

 

1. I believe the point was that they did not believe him. Your statement - "And they clearly believed his lie." Not being able to prove something as false definitively doesn't mean you believe it. Leliana questioned him, at certain points your Inqusitior could question him, Viviene questioned him, Morrigan seemed a bit suspicious of him as well. They were not entirely convinced, they just had no other alternatives so they went with it. To trick someone you need to have them convinced.

 

2. The quotes from Vivienne someone posted recently? XD Cassandra certianly doesn't seem to trust him during the prologue, either.

 

3. Nah, he answered it it vaguely and changed the subject. That might close off a path for more questions, but it doesn't mean it dispelled doubt, either.

 

4. You recruited him knowing something was wrong with the Wardens and they could potentially be involved or to blame for the entire Corypheus affair. Of course she would investigate him, the entire reason she wanted you to recruit him was so she could question him.

 

5. There is defintely room for interpretation. Like the potential other explantion I gave earlier.

[Dai Grepher]

I've seen a lot of people on this forum claim that Flemeth says a soul can't be forced on the unwilling, which given what happens with Solas leads some claim she was lying.

But what Flemeth actually says is "a soul IS not forced upon the unwilling", which could mean something quite different.

Peehaps it is not done because it is a taboo, or because there is a negative consequence, or some reqson we haven't guessed.

But the point remains is != can't!

 

I guess I'll reply to the actual topic since I'm here.

 

My take is that a mage who is unwilling can still be possessed by a demon, but in that case the result is an abomination, the twisted face/body version. This happens when the mage resists but isn't strong enough to defend him or her self against the demon.

 

If the mage is willing, then the mage keeps his or her current form. Like how Wynne, Connor, Uldred, or Anders did. But in the case of demons, they can still transform into themselves. I think the question of if anything of the mage remains is answered on a case by case basis. Obviously, Connor still remained. Maybe Uldred too, but not so sure about that one.

 

And of course there are the mages who are unwilling and can resist, in which case they remain free of possession.

 

So in Flemeth's/Mythal's and Morrigan's case, she would have to accept Mythal's spirit willingly. Otherwise it might result in an abomination which twists both.

[Dai Grepher]

1. I believe the point was that they did not believe him. Your statement - "And they clearly believed his lie." Not being able to prove something as false definitively doesn't mean you believe it. Leliana questioned him, at certain points your Inqusitior could question him, Viviene questioned him, Morrigan seemed a bit suspicious of him as well. They were not entirely convinced, they just had no other alternatives so they went with it. To trick someone you need to have them convinced.

 

Exactly right.

[XEternalXDreamsX]

I feel like Flemeth had a lot of plans in motion before Solas arrived and messed everything up. She's always had ulterior motives. Luckily, there were plans that needed the Warden and Hawke. She saved the Warden from the tower in DAO. Solas would not have done the same since he thinks Wardens are going down the wrong path. She helped Hawke make it to Kirkwall in return for a safety net to keep herself alive. As for as our interaction with her, she helped us. As for her own life, she didn't feel it was worth revealing to us. Then comes DAI, it just becomes moot with Solas' appearance.

[Rocknife]

A soul + willing vessel = Anders

A soul + unwilling vessel = abominations, possessed mages.

 

As far as I know, spirits of fades can be tempted by their desires of seeing the living world and thus tries to find a living vessel for themselves. When they can tempt a mage with promise of power, they become like Anders. Coexist in the same body. If they cannot, they force their way in and turn them into abominations. That is why they put circle mages through the Harrowing. If they are not strong enough to resist spirits that wants to possess them forcefully, that mage turns into abomination and templars kill that mage immediately. Flemeth probably meant this. If Flemeth forced Morrigan to have Mythal, she'd probably end up damaging/deforming both Morrigan and Mythal. Perhaps Flemeth already found a willing vessel for Mythal. Besides, Mythal's vessels are  usually vengeful and in need of immediate help. I can think of someone who needs rescuing and hates some certain group (that uses blood magic ritual) but that's a whole different story and that loser is a bit too lame to be the main antagonist.

[Eggpop]

Dai, I'm gonna PM you so that we don't muddle the original topic any further

[Aren]

@Mykel54:  "Morrigan makes a choice not knowing the full picture-"  

My opinion.  She got what she deserved.  Who makes such a stupid choice. 

 

"I know this is called the 'Well of Sorrow' and that there's a 'price to pay' but SURE I'll drink from it."   She's an idiot and her mother's just sad she raised such an power mongering twisted little imbecile.  

 

Lesson:  Don't make choices you know come with a heavy price... when you know neither 1) the reward nor 2) the heavy price.  

 

Bioware is teaching life lessons people.

Couldn't you honestly expect more for someone who have wished to use her own son for some weirdo experiment in the first chapter?

Morrigan and her character development......It seems that downloading a new full perspective is far beyond all the stupid magic that she may have acquired in the last 9 years.

[leaguer of one]

A soul + willing vessel = Anders

A soul + unwilling vessel = abominations, possessed mages.

 

As far as I know, spirits of fades can be tempted by their desires of seeing the living world and thus tries to find a living vessel for themselves. When they can tempt a mage with promise of power, they become like Anders. Coexist in the same body. If they cannot, they force their way in and turn them into abominations. That is why they put circle mages through the Harrowing. If they are not strong enough to resist spirits that wants to possess them forcefully, that mage turns into abomination and templars kill that mage immediately. Flemeth probably meant this. If Flemeth forced Morrigan to have Mythal, she'd probably end up damaging/deforming both Morrigan and Mythal. Perhaps Flemeth already found a willing vessel for Mythal. Besides, Mythal's vessels are  usually vengeful and in need of immediate help. I can think of someone who needs rescuing and hates some certain group (that uses blood magic ritual) but that's a whole different story and that loser is a bit too lame to be the main antagonist.

That's not how it works.

 

An Abomination is not an unwilling host. Even those mages have to allow the demon in. You're wrong

[leaguer of one]

1. I believe the point was that they did not believe him. Your statement - "And they clearly believed his lie." Not being able to prove something as false definitively doesn't mean you believe it. Leliana questioned him, at certain points your Inqusitior could question him, Viviene questioned him, Morrigan seemed a bit suspicious of him as well. They were not entirely convinced, they just had no other alternatives so they went with it. To trick someone you need to have them convinced.

 

2. The quotes from Vivienne someone posted recently? XD Cassandra certianly doesn't seem to trust him during the prologue, either.

 

3. Nah, he answered it it vaguely and changed the subject. That might close off a path for more questions, but it doesn't mean it dispelled doubt, either.

 

4. You recruited him knowing something was wrong with the Wardens and they could potentially be involved or to blame for the entire Corypheus affair. Of course she would investigate him, the entire reason she wanted you to recruit him was so she could question him.

 

5. There is defintely room for interpretation. Like the potential other explantion I gave earlier.

1.I would not say suspicious. Morrigan sees him as competition, Vive just does not trust apostates in general. The questioning is just to size him up or show they know more and or better then him with those 2. With Quis is just getting more info not straight up did belief.

2. And yet she also never double checks on him.

3.He told us what it was and then said he learnt it from the fade.Not a very vague.

4.We recuited him only know the wardens were missing. Even then we did not know somthing was wrong.

5.Not at all. That's a wolf with it's teeth out next to a slain dragon with a sword in it drawn by the dread wolf. Not much more is need to know what's going on.