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#1
Anando

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Hi everybody,

 

this hasn't happened to me in a long time: I googled for my gaming problem three times and couldn't find any report that others have the same problem - very strange.

The problem: My Solas can't dispel newly spawning demons at Rifts (German PC version from CD, with English language patch/download). I tried at several rifts. I tried dispelling earlier and I tried waiting for the demons to materialize a bit more (check you tube videos to make double-sure). I get the notice "Dispelled" that is displayed in red over the demon but the demon stays. It also does not take damage.
 

I apologize if this has been posted and discussed before. I really need your help or I have to switch to Dorian (no comments on Dorian, please).

 

Thank you for your answers in advance.

Anando



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Dispel only works on the Rift's green circle things, once the demon spawns it's too late you have to fight them.  

 

Is Cassandra's Spell Purge working? 



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b10d1v

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I've seen some random timing differences where timing is too short to react and prevent a spawn -inconsistent behavior.  If I had to guess, it's related to the random halts that seem to happen more often and that has not been fixed. 



#4
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I gave it another try at a rift at Storm Coast. I tried to dispel shades. That did not work. Maybe you can only dispel real demons? But I am sure I tried with demons as well. I stormed with Solas right to the spawn sites to have him as near as possible and cast dispel in tactical mode on the shades before they had the red circle. I can't rule out that they turned red the instant I cast but I also can't cast any faster.
I tried with switching to another character and with staying with Solas. Both cases gave me the usual "Dispelled" reading over the shade.
I have not tried Cassandra, yet. I don't like her and don't want to play with her on my way to a roft. If there is an easily accessable rift near some camp I will give her a try, just to test if that works.

I am really surprised that I am the only guy with this problem. It leaves with this naggin' feeling that I am doing something stupidly wrong. :-)
What is meant by "randowm halts, that seem to happen more often"?



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I'm not sure what the factors influencing the effectiveness of dispel are.  I have noticed that in late levels, with all kinds of upgrades that interact in different ways, dispels are a whole lot easier late in the game than they are in the beginning.  In the Emerald Graves, I seldom even see the second wave.  There's some kind of level shift in the Emprise, and dispels go back to being average.  I have noticed that certain combinations of equipment make changes in attributes that I didn't expect, and these have an impact in ways I didn't realize.  For me, it was the reaver tree with Bull.  He was constantly dying until I did something or another different, and now he's nearly unstoppable.  I might have built him different.  I've been playing with a more right-brain approach, looking for the patterns rather than looking for the facts, because that seems to work best for me, so I can't say exactly what it was I did differently.  

 

The advice I'd offer is to check his attributes and see if anything looks bizarre.  I wondered why Cass kept dying until I unequipped Wintersbreath, after seeing that with it, she was starting out at -90% resistance to everything.  She did better at staying alive than she did at killing others, and my attempts to undo it, the way she was built, intensified the problem.  When I gave her a shield that did what she needed, the way I had built her, she rejoined the party as the righteous defender I had in mind.  It might be as easy as a piece of gear or playstyle that's giving you grief, and it's probably a safe idea to check there first.



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@ Magdalena11,

thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, Solas's attributes look ok. I also checked the gear but nothing suspicious. This is frustrating. I am such a big fan of the Dragon Age series but right now it feels more like work than fun. :-(

@ Patchword

I could do the Cassandra test but that is some kind of a hassle to equip her and then run through the fights till I reach a rift just for testing. Besides, I would not be much the wiser. Either she can dispel then the problem is with Solar or she can't which also will leave me baffled.

@ b10d1v
Interesting point. How would I test that. My current idea is to test notebook versus gamer-pc. I am not entirely sure if I tried dispel at the gamer pc. I will try that.

I may also try dispel with Dorian, why not? If it works with him I'll choose him. I need to put points in that tree anyway for the barrier buffs.

cheers

baffled Anando



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Anando, once the demons spawn it's too late. There's a period of time before they spawn that the rift will "shoot" green energy beams like sun rays around itself onto the terrain - these are what you need to dispell. As soon as you see these, switch to your tactical cam and dispell as many of the red circles as you can.



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@McVexy I thought I had made it clear that I tried that in my first post but I see that I did not state it explicitly.

Anyway, I tried
- at the Gamer pc
+ at the Stormcoast rift (http://guides.gamepr...de.asp?ID=27916  - the rift marked with 1e)

 

I think that Dispel may have a quite limited range and that especially with this rift you approach from very far so that the rift has enough time to spawn. It seemed to me that I could not place the dispel "circle" near the shade, only in front. So distance and PC may be one solution.

Interestingly, I then fought through and in the SECOND wave, where Solas was right in the midst of things, I managed to dispel a shade. Yeah!

 

So, Solas is NOT broken, and Dispel DOES work. I will now try around a bit on pc and notebook but my motivation has just returned to play one of my fav games. :-)
Thanks to everybody for getting me here!

cheers

Anando