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[God]

Just remember to buy your alcohol the night before.  You didn't used to be able to buy liquor on Sunday mornings in Indiana.  Not sure if that's still the case.

 

Nope.

 

Now, you aren't allowed to buy liquor on Sundays period.

[RidiculousMammal]

Now we know who reports you

 

  No, I am not the type to get emotional and shut people down because someone doesn't agree with me.

[JGDD]

Honda isn't what they used to be.

Late to this party but I figured I'd comment anyway.

 

McLaren-Honda this year are doing probably the smartest thing they can with a new setup - season long development. They're gaining little by little every weekend and to the best of my knowledge have yet to use any of the tokens granted to them. Right now they are both playing a very patient long game. Next year though...my money says they will be a force to be reckoned with. Which would a be a very welcome thing for F1.

[The NightMan Cometh]

Reported for being funny.

[Kenny Bania]

No kidding duel citizenship for England and the U.S.?

 

Nah, I'm Nigerian.

[The NightMan Cometh]

Reported cause I don't like you.

[Sully13]

Reported cause I don't like you.

[Cribbian]

[bEVEsthda]

While politics is a big part of F1, I can't stand it. Which is why I also can't stand Vettel or Schumey (or BMW for that matter).

 

And it isn't the drivers. It's the men behind the car, rather than in it. In particular two men. Adrian Newey, and Ross Brawn.

 

Adrian Newey: Williams-Mansell, Williams-Prost, Williams-Hill, Williams-Villeneuve, McLaren-Haakkinen, Red Bull-Webber/Vettel, Red Bull-Vettel.

 

Ross Brawn: Benneton-Schumacher, Ferrari-Schumacher, Brawn-Button, Mercedes-Hamilton.

 

Their roles have been different. Newey is a designer/engineer. Brawn is technical director/manager. It doesn't matter. Those two are the men that have dominated F1 for a long time now. Brawn has retired now. (Newey has been away for times, which is when Brawn has been less opposed).

 

There will be others eventually, of course.

 

My favorite team right now is Williams and Bottas.

Another favorite driver for a long time is Alonso.

[My other account is banned]

Now that I can post in this thread, I'll take this opportunity to say:

 

lolnascar

 

Also, I miss you weirdos in the MP forum... 

[A Pyros Son]

What the hell is going on?

[My other account is banned]

What the hell is going on?

 

I don't know, but I really, REALLY wish I could post on the MP forum right now! 

 

But I'll be good for a while...

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Nah, I'm Nigerian.

 

You used the "N" word shamelessly.

 

Reported.

[Kenny Bania]

You used the "N" word shamelessly.

 

Reported.

 

What's wrong with "Nah"?

[smeckie]

Nah, I'm Nigerian.

You are most likely the #1 Nigerian player in the world. All joking aside that's really cool and interesting.

[mousestalker]

Back on topic, Nascar men are better looking

[Giant ambush beetle]

Seriously. Indianapolis 500. The greatest spectacle in racing.

 

Sorry but the greatest spectacle in racing is the 24 hour race in Le Mans, in fact its the biggest motor sport event in the world. 

[God]

Late to this party but I figured I'd comment anyway.

 

McLaren-Honda this year are doing probably the smartest thing they can with a new setup - season long development. They're gaining little by little every weekend and to the best of my knowledge have yet to use any of the tokens granted to them. Right now they are both playing a very patient long game. Next year though...my money says they will be a force to be reckoned with. Which would a be a very welcome thing for F1.

 

I disagree. I have a few sources from my dad who tells me that Honda is living entirely on past glories within the workshop. They are convinced that they have the superior product (they don't), and they're not pliable to changes. I think they're going to be having a rough few seasons. 

 

If they're as you say next year, it will not be because of a long game or plan. It will be because somebody smelled the flowers and saw what was going on. I don't think that's going to be an issue though. Merc power is more or less the dominant engine in F1.

[Garryydde]

I disagree. I have a few sources from my dad who tells me that Honda is living entirely on past glories within the workshop. They are convinced that they have the superior product (they don't), and they're not pliable to changes. I think they're going to be having a rough few seasons. 
 
If they're as you say next year, it will not be because of a long game or plan. It will be because somebody smelled the flowers and saw what was going on. I don't think that's going to be an issue though. Merc power is more or less the dominant engine in F1.

Sounds like Honda as a whole, not just the F1 team.

[Quarian Master Race]

I disagree. I have a few sources from my dad who tells me that Honda is living entirely on past glories within the workshop. They are convinced that they have the superior product (they don't), and they're not pliable to changes. I think they're going to be having a rough few seasons. 

 

If they're as you say next year, it will not be because of a long game or plan. It will be because somebody smelled the flowers and saw what was going on. I don't think that's going to be an issue though. Merc power is more or less the dominant engine in F1.

yep. Honda keeps invoking the late 80s and early 90s, but everyone forgets the Mugen-BAR-Honda period from the late 90s to 2008 where they managed a whole lot of nothing. Total of 3 wins in 10 years, 2 of them as a supplier for Jordan which they can't really take credit for, the other more down Button's skill in managing wet conditions during an unusual race than the mostly crap car and engine he was using. BAR built a couple decent cars (2004 in particular), but Honda itself was a complete joke that often got outraced by their own B team Super Aguri, who normally used Honda chassis from the previous year. Then to add the final insult, Brawn buys their team and car for a single Pound Sterling, throws a Merc engine in the back of it, and immediately wins a WDC and WCC.

I'm not saying they'll continue to barely scrape into the points with a single car every race, but irrespective of the engine McLaren are in a crisis and I don't forsee Honda being able to build an engine equal to Merc's, let alone better. They had the dominant Merc engine last year, and were the worst team with it despite FI and Williams having a fraction of their budget. At best, they can maybe get a top 3-4 car and hope for an Alonso 2012 (perhaps when the regs change in 2017), where everyone else dropping the ball constantly puts them in position to capitalize.

[Garryydde]

Unfortunately for Honda and their engines the VTEC isn't kicking in, yo.

[God]

I think Ron Dennis is going to retire before long, though I think he wants to try to push McLaren back onto a stronger path before he goes. Like them or not (like him or not too), he's presided over the most successful run of McLaren, being the Team Principal and manager for some of the greatest drivers in history. I don't think he wants it to go out on a low note. But McLaren is in a slide, and they're not looking to really get out of it for the rest of the season. Or with Honda.

[Cknarf]

Ah, the Indy 500. Like the Daytona 500, except the cars look like this:

 

 

Instead of this:

 

 

 

And the fans look like:

 

instead of:

 

 

And then, instead of lookin' like this:

 

 

The track looks like this:

 

 

So you can't see ****.

 

 

Never actually been to a 500, but I've been to Carburetion Day and seen the indy lights race. Or watched them fly by on the frontstretch, anyways. Can't see s*** at Indy. I really enjoy seeing the vintage cars, and visiting the museum. 

 

Big 'ol party in the infield, hella drunk college kids all over the place.  I sure don't remember that from when I went as a kid! That's where I plan to be next year.

[Quarian Master Race]

I think Ron Dennis is going to retire before long, though I think he wants to try to push McLaren back onto a stronger path before he goes. Like them or not (like him or not too), he's presided over the most successful run of McLaren, being the Team Principal and manager for some of the greatest drivers in history. I don't think he wants it to go out on a low note. But McLaren is in a slide, and they're not looking to really get out of it for the rest of the season. Or with Honda.

yeah, but how long without results before the suits do to him what the Ferrari suits did to Luca?

I get not wanting to bow out with Spygate as your most (in)famous achievement in the last 20 years, and in fairness McLaren's operations were a bit of a joke under Whitmarsh (threw away 2012 with silly mistakes despite having a car that could challenge the bulls on pace, then threw away the same winning car in favour of a failed design next year), but I don't know what Dennis can actually do. He's not a designer, which is where their problems are. Honda is just making it worse. Compare Macca to Williams last year, who had the same engine, half the budget (if that) and arguably lesser drivers. Macca should have been right behind the Mercs, but they even managed to get beaten into 5th by Ferrari with a terrible chassis and probably the worst engine.

Throwing out everything including the kitchen sink may not be the answer, but then again they can't get much worse for their budget and the two excellent drives they employ, can they? Now that they have Alonso on board at least, they have no scapegoats left (not that they really did with just Button either).