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#76
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Yeah, Bull's mission... But why can't a dwarf become a templar? You don't need magic to become one. You just need lyrium.

 

Dwarves are resistant to lyrium.

 

If a Dwarf is mining lyrium, they can get the dust in their blood. Which causes them to have memory lapses. Whats-his-name dwarf merchant in Origins had this issue.



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Agreed. Why can't Cassandra bend mages and templars to her will in combat like she says she can?

 

Don't forget how Seekers are supposed to be immune to Red Lyrium (or heavily resistant or whatever it was) and yet Cassandra shows the same affliction as someone else might.


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I believe in DAO or DA2 they established how teleportation magic does not exist, then in DAI, they go right around and create time travel magic. How can time travel magic exist, but not teleportation magic?



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To be fair, time magic seems to hinge on the rifts, or at least that's how I understood it (might be mistaken). It never worked before DA:I, no? Perhaps this has to do with the fact that Fade is timeless or something...? Hm.


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There is no more glaring writing flub in Inquisition than the virtual absence of its main villain. Corypheus makes an impressive appearance in Haven and then other than a couple of brief cut scenes (none of which involve the Inquisitor) he vanishes, a villain in name only until his rather pathetically underleveled battle against you at the conclusion????

 

I've NEVER seen the main threat bad buy botched as badly as Inquisition does, and I otherwise enjoyed this game. A completionist path more fully reveals how egregious this slight is, as the equivalent of more than two-thirds of the game can pass that leaves you wondering what the heck you're actually doing?


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#81
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I'm not even going to get started on the inconsistencies between the books and the games, or I'd be here for half an hour or more, so I'm going to ignore that.


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GREY WARDENS!

so they'll master its taint.


One thing that bothered me is how the taint in a person was called the blight all through DAI. Last I checked, the Grey Wardens took on the taint in the joining and a blight was when darkspawn invaded the surface led by an archdemon. True, it's a minor issue, but it bugs me the hell out.
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My favorite writing flub: My play through was one where my poop head Warden corrupted the Ashes of Andraste. Outside of it never really being mentioned that the Ashes were corrupted at Haven and the Cult had only passing mention, Leliana says at Skyhold that she was there at the Battle of Denerim and implies she fought the Archedemon with the Warden no matter what. Umm. No. You were dead and getting better in the Temple of Andraste, and you yourself claimed never to see or want to see the Warden again at Haven. Ugh!



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One thing that bothered me is how the taint in a person was called the blight all through DAI. Last I checked, the Grey Wardens took on the taint in the joining and a blight was when darkspawn invaded the surface led by an archdemon. True, it's a minor issue, but it bugs me the hell out.

The writers changed the terminology because of taint's slang meaning.



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The writers changed the terminology because of taint's slang meaning.

Well, that and the developers likely saw the video featuring Duncan in his underwear telling the viewer to master their taint amongst other things and were unable to forget it so they could no longer write the word without seeing that image in their heads. 


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The writers changed the terminology because of taint's slang meaning.

Then that was a ridiculously stupid thing to do on their part. Hell, they practically opened the door themselves with Isabela's slang use of it in DA2. FFS, people are ALWAYS going to find a way to use a term in a slang manner.
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Then that was a ridiculously stupid thing to do on their part. Hell, they practically opened the door themselves with Isabela's slang use of it in DA2. FFS, people are ALWAYS going to find a way to use a term in a slang manner.

 

Yes, I feel they're going to far with avoiding some obscure possible slang meaning "somewhere in the world" at all costs. Like they changed Odette to Vivienne because of some strange Spanish slang. I mean wtf there must still be Swan lake performances in Spain.


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Dwarves are resistant to lyrium.

 

If a Dwarf is mining lyrium, they can get the dust in their blood. Which causes them to have memory lapses. Whats-his-name dwarf merchant in Origins had this issue.

 

Cole explains that templars and dwarves are a very similar kind of thing. It's his "they reach out for something old and there isn't room for the magic to get it" when he compares templars to Varric. 



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There is no more glaring writing flub in Inquisition than the virtual absence of its main villain. Corypheus makes an impressive appearance in Haven and then other than a couple of brief cut scenes (none of which involve the Inquisitor) he vanishes, a villain in name only until his rather pathetically underleveled battle against you at the conclusion????

 

I've NEVER seen the main threat bad buy botched as badly as Inquisition does, and I otherwise enjoyed this game. A completionist path more fully reveals how egregious this slight is, as the equivalent of more than two-thirds of the game can pass that leaves you wondering what the heck you're actually doing?

 

I've seen two games do it worse: DA:O. The AD has about 5 minutes of screen time, and Loghain - aside from his cut-away scenes - doesn't appear after Ostagar until the Landsmeet sequence. Bioware really needs to look at how ME1 and ME3 (I shudder as I type this line) featured their villains in their recent productions. JE and BG2 are better examples. 



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 Bioware really needs to look at how ME1 and ME3 (I shudder as I type this line) featured their villains in their recent productions.

 

I wouldn't set ME3 as a good example  *glancing at Kai Leng*

ME1 with Saren at the opposite...



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Just so everyone knows, the reason that line is so out of place is because the audio people used the wrong one. That casual version of "What's going on here?" was copied from the conversation between Dorian and Mother Giselle, where the Inquisitor enters using that sentence.

 

There is a proper "What's going on here?" line that plays correctly in Here Lies the Abyss, but for some reason the audio people copied the calm one instead of using that one. Oops!

ah it reminds me of Varric  "Where is hawke?"


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I wouldn't set ME3 as a good example  *glancing at Kai Leng*

ME1 with Saren at the opposite...

 

Kai Leng, in my opinion, had a concept that could work albeit with a bit of difficulty but was not executed even close to a way that made it work well. Unlike other villains of the series, the illusion meant to hide his plot armor was pretty weak, in my opinion, and it was just too apparent he had it.

 

In addition, if the villain is making an effort to psychologically stab the protagonist it would perhaps be better if his way of doing so had less of a chance to be automatically relegated to trash mail and deleted with enlargement advertisements by the protagonist.
 



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I wouldn't set ME3 as a good example *glancing at Kai Leng*
ME1 with Saren at the opposite...


I was thinking more about the omnipresence of the reapers. Kai Leng and Cerberus were a joke but the game's plot was dominated by the reapers.

ME1 featured Saren a bunch but IMO he was pretty absent. It's comparable to DAI except for the fact that our final battle was far better done.

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the best villain in any bioware game ever was master Li in Jade Empire. I never saw the twist coming and the emotional response was .. wow....

 

Bring Arch Demon Li to next dragon age.


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I've seen two games do it worse: DA:O. The AD has about 5 minutes of screen time, and Loghain - aside from his cut-away scenes - doesn't appear after Ostagar until the Landsmeet sequence. Bioware really needs to look at how ME1 and ME3 (I shudder as I type this line) featured their villains in their recent productions. JE and BG2 are better examples. 

 

I felt like Loghain had a far more visceral impact in Origins than Corypheus does in Inquisition, and when he actually appeared within the game he was never a pushover. Based upon my experience with Corypheus, my Inquisitor needn't have brought companions, armor or weapons to the final fight. All that the Inquisitor had to do was gently blow in whatever direction the darkspawn-magister happened to be standing, and Cory would basically fall right over??

 

Look I know that what I just said is an exaggeration, but after the Archdemon, the Architect/the Mother and Knight-Commander Meredith, Corypheus just wasn't much of a threat other than as I said - - - in name only. That was never my impression of his franchise predecessors. So, yes that is a failing for this game.

 

Cory appears in Dagna's crystal recording, he is seen in memory fragments in the Fade, and later very briefly glimpsed at the elven temple. Other than Haven, that is it ..... I mean seriously, c'mon, what happened here is content changes that scuttled their main bad guy. This is not the Corypheus of Legacy by any stretch of the imagination.


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#96
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I don't think being absent has to be a problem with villains. In fact it can help keep them threatening. Like Sauron.

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Yes, I feel they're going to far with avoiding some obscure possible slang meaning "somewhere in the world" at all costs. Like they changed Odette to Vivienne because of some strange Spanish slang. I mean wtf there must still be Swan lake performances in Spain.

I didn't know that. I prefer Odette. That's such a pretty name.

 

That's dumb reason to change it. Change the name for the Spanish version. A lot of shows do that, too. Pokemon, while an odd example, is probably the best. They change all of the characters' names from Japanese names to English names for convenience sake. They did it for some of the names in Kid Icarus: Uprising. A lot of the versions translated "Iron" in "Iron Bull" to whatever it would be in their language.

 

 

I was thinking more about the omnipresence of the reapers. Kai Leng and Cerberus were a joke but the game's plot was dominated by the reapers.

ME1 featured Saren a bunch but IMO he was pretty absent. It's comparable to DAI except for the fact that our final battle was far better done.

You mean the DAI battle? I think the battle with Saren was better, to be honest. Sure it wasn't as wide-spaced or anything, but I feel that it worked well in the close confines, there's more interesting things going on, and his battle strategy was different than what you'd expect.



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Seeker Cassandra explains that the seeker abilities are different from those of templars. Yet, she has the templar specialization and no seeker specific abilities. That doesn't make any sense.

Actually, they  were going to make a Seeker specialization, but there were complications. Her powers are different, but for gameplay sake, they aren't. Story-wise, yes, gameplay-wise, no.



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I wouldn't set ME3 as a good example  *glancing at Kai Leng*

ME1 with Saren at the opposite...

 Kai Leng wasn't the main villain though.

 

The Reapers were the main threat, and they were pretty much kicking the entire galaxy's *ss throughout ME3 that the wins you get actually felt satisfying.

 

The one part I did not understand is the whole Blackwall save/die thing. I promised to put him back to jail, or maybe execute him for his crimes, after we defeat Cory, but at the very end he was all "I think I'm going to stay in the Inquisition. Help out folks and stuff" or something like that. Uh, no you're not. You're going to die for your crimes you d*ck.

 

I don't know if that's a bug or not but it just bothered me a bit.


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My favorite writing flub: My play through was one where my poop head Warden corrupted the Ashes of Andraste. Outside of it never really being mentioned that the Ashes were corrupted at Haven and the Cult had only passing mention, Leliana says at Skyhold that she was there at the Battle of Denerim and implies she fought the Archedemon with the Warden no matter what. Umm. No. You were dead and getting better in the Temple of Andraste, and you yourself claimed never to see or want to see the Warden again at Haven. Ugh!

Hmm, I don't remember her saying anything about battle with Archdemon, my brain must have cut it out. I do remember though, how Lel said that she and Warden had different views (that's quite diplomatic way to say "he killed me") so they parted.