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SUPERHEROES! Public or Secret Identity?


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You'd have to go off the grid or fake your death because you're in the system since birth. In developed countries anyway.

Hobos have been in the system since birth and people don't care about them, nor know who they are on the majority of cases.

And it's just an example.



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Hobos have been in the system since birth and people don't care about them, nor know who they are on the majority of cases.

And it's just an example.

So be a hobo superhero?

I wouldn't consider Hancock to be a movie to base your superheroing on.



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http://en.wikipedia....wiki/The_Shadow

 

Another example. Here the public identity is irrelevant, since it's frequently changed with others, stereotyped or not.

 

The Shadow has no boundaries or restrictons, he doesn't make a selective split between "public", "private" and "hidden", that's why he's almost impossible to spot.


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IMO:

Very-low power - Private, as you're not really that big of a deal enough to warrant most attention anyway. Whatever.

Low power - Public, as you're basically a stronger vigilante that would be better off within the bounds of the law and regulation. Typically stories where this doesn't happen, has to depict the outside world as SOOO corrupt that it could NEVERRR accept the hero. Always feels a bit forced.

Medium power - Private, because you're beyond regulation but could still be trapped and imprisoned just for being too strong. Wait until society is ready, maybe taking example from the actions of the good High powered heroes.

High power - Public, because you're both beyond regulation but also so strong that its pointless to stay secret. Stop messing around and just go for it. For Superman, they have to do that 'Oh he wouldn't know how to relate to humanity if he wasn't staying as Clark Kent!' BS. I do think its BS.

Super-high power - Private, no one will understand. Truly. You're crazy beyond people. Have a human identity to float around the world, but I understand if you don't make yourself known to the public.



So basically it waffles, for me. So it makes sense that individual heroes don't really know where they stand on the public/private divide. Circumstances also direct choices.


To clarify:
Very-low = Maybe not even any superpowers, or even just being powerful. Heh.
Low = Having superpowers but easy to hide and not very strong.
Medium = Having superpowers and not easy to hide but not super strong.
High = Having superpowers, maybe even beyond just that word to describe it, and you're not easy to hide because you're so damn strong.
Very-High = You're pretty much cosmic level and have to 'translate' yourself downward in order to live any sort of human existence.

It also depends on how you're going to negotiate your relationship to your nation and humanity. How much do you respect their laws? How much are you subject to them? Are you willing to be an ally, enemy? Part of, or apart?


Do you mind giving a comic example of each one of your tiers?

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You'd have to go off the grid or fake your death because you're in the system since birth. In developed countries anyway.


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Do you mind giving a comic example of each one of your tiers?

Very-Low: Batman, Green Arrow, Punisher, Daredevil, Iron Fist.

Low: Wolverine (Most mutants that aren't Omega Class or Morlocks really), Captain America, Luke Cage

Medium: Spider-Man, The Flash

High: Superman, Iron Man via technicality, Captain Marvel

Very-High: Thor, The Hulk, Captain Atom, Sentry, Dr. Strange, Spawn

 

That's my attempt anyway.



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Batman is non-OP but OP character ever.


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Do you mind giving a comic example of each one of your tiers?

 

I can try, as long as you take it as my thinking off the top of my head. And by 'power' I do mean specifically superpowers and how that'd make someone superhuman, even trans or posthuman, not just the person having talents.

 

Very-low power - Daredevil

Low power - Iron Man

Medium power - Spiderman

High power - Superman

Very-high power - Sentry

 

Anything below Medium power doesn't necessarily mean having 'a superpower', but your capabilities themselves may still be beyond the normal man. Anything above Medium power means superpowers, many multiple major ones or existing on more cosmic scales.



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Very-Low: Batman, Green Arrow, Punisher, Daredevil, Iron Fist.

Low: Wolverine (Most mutants that aren't Omega Class or Morlocks really), Captain America, Luke Cage

Medium: Spider-Man, The Flash

High: Superman, Iron Man via technicality, Captain Marvel

Very-High: Thor, The Hulk, Captain Atom, Sentry, Dr. Strange, Spawn

 

That's my attempt anyway.

 

Oh! Haha you basically got it. Wow haha.

 

I didn't put Iron Man so high because I was caring more about innate powers (if you don't count 'high intelligence' as a superpower), but its true that his powers as Iron Man can be Medium-to-High on this scale of things.

 

There may be disagreements of all sorts when we put powers on a 'scale', but I think the GENERAL point is made; that I think that a lot depends on your power level and how you and the world would see that power.



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If I were a super hero I'd definitely have a secret identity. For starters I'm not very keen on making myself or the ones I care for a target. Secondly not everyone is very keen on the idea of a vigilante; even if he does a lot of good, so it's inevitable that you'll face problems getting accepted.

Plus if I keep my identity a secret, I still have a chance at experiencing some kind of normal life. 



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Here is a thought.

 

Most of the X Men don't seem go for the public and secret identity.

They are different since they are all in hiding 100% of the time.

 

Could this be the "off the grid" option that has been discussed on this thread?



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I would have a secret identity and protect it via the Wally West method.


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Depends on the superpowers and how much of a family I have. There are lots of pros to being a super hero celebrity. Lots of cons too.
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OWA


Lol. But I'm serious, I remember a BSNer making a thread to say he was leaving because he wanted to become a vigilante crime fighter.

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Lol. But I'm serious, I remember a BSNer making a thread to say he was leaving because he wanted to become a vigilante crime fighter.

Idk. But he was probably the hero BSN deserved, but not the one we needed now.


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Lol. But I'm serious, I remember a BSNer making a thread to say he was leaving because he wanted to become a vigilante crime fighter.


I want GMag to be a superhero crime fighter. He would do a hella good job tbh.
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