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Avvar Skywatcher Worlds Fastest Perilous Solo[11.30] - Proof that DAIMP does not take any skill


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#251
Akir388

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Someone with 300 promotions and ability to record, post a video of their elderly grandmother or 4 year old child soloing OC on perilous on the Avaar. If I had to guess, its not possible. Please prove me wrong because that would be incredibly entertaining.

 

This is just my opinion, so pay it no mind if you like. :)

 

The reason an elderly grandmother or 4 year old child would fail at replicating the solo is because they have no knowledge of game mechanics. What I saw in the OP's video was good knowledge of how to play the game, but there was really no skill involved. Before anyone thinks I'm hating on Penguin, let me just say I watch his build guide videos all the time and I know he is a very skilled player. Much better than I will ever be. The purpose of his video was to showcase that with enough promotions and good gear, skill becomes irrelevant. This is true. I have seen it with my own eyes. Players running into groups of enemies using squishy rogues and taking hardly any health damage. When they do lose health, they immediately get it back by killing something. An understanding of game mechanics is required, otherwise you would eventually die, but skill? Not once you reach that level. Is that to say all the players at that level are not skilled? Absolutely not. 

 

I just view knowledge of game mechanics and skill as different things. Just my two cents.


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Thread is delicious, there's enough flames to roast a druffalo.....
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Thread is delicious, there's enough flames to roast a druffalo.....


Nah, not even hot enough to melt it's guard.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. Soloing is not a "good way to show a working build" in a multiplayer game. In my videos, I often am soloing through some of the content so I can get a few clips of the abilities being used "in a vaccuum" (so to speak) so I can chop them up in between the skill tree and talking. I then may have solo gameplay further (on Routine, mind you) for background as I explain strategy or make snarky comments, but not to show how good the build works. 

 

Admittedly, this is because many of the builds I use are devised for specific roles, and not the typical "rush-in-and-bash-things" for which everyone looks. Getting a team together to demonstrate a role properly is tedious since my "team" has moved on to other games. Most of the experienced players that I can party with now are either unwilling to play a specific role for the sake of demonstration or are frankly not skilled enough to put themselves in a role and stick to it when things get hectic.

 

 

 

I have been playing DAIMP since the minute the server went online, and yet I still try to cater my content to the "any-player" (meaning as neutral on gear and promotions as possible). I also play PuG matches most of the time.

Oh course, I also don't play the "meta" game. I don't try to make videos showcasing the "optimal" builds that everyone else uses (although I think I have a couple of times), so I guess it's easier for me to not rely on gear and promotions.

 

 

Honestly, if I did not know them all, I might be inclined to buy into the "frienemy" conspiracy. I mean, what better way to get more publicity than a little drama?

Unfortunately, I'll be completely honest in saying that Penguin, Drasca, and myself all have a bit of an ego problem, which has lead to a lot of friction. All of us are "right", and none of us want to concede. Of course, Drasca and Penguins seem to be at odds to a much greater degree than either of them with me, which I suppose makes less stress for me.

 

 

I respect your opinion and you certainly have the right to disagree.  A solo vid for me is a way to showcase how a specific character can survive when the odds are stacked against you, like when the majority of your party members are down and you're left to carry the rest of your group at least up to the next zone, which seems to happen a lot in my experience.  It's not always the best build in a team setting but it's a good basis and you can tweak it in a way that works for you.  Of course, that's just my opinion. 

 

I never looked at solo vids as bragging unless the maker of the video comes in and tells everyone else that they suck because they can't solo the way he did.  The player Amnesia...something...weedy? (PC) was a good example of this a while back lol.

 

I've watched a couple of your vids some time ago where you had a nice, clear voice over explaining why you picked the skills and passives you had.  It gives new players ideas and at the same time doesn't dictate what they should do.  That, to me, is the making of a great guide. 
While I don't necessarily agree with some of your choices, I also would never go into your thread and bash your build because I can see it works for you.  Making something work for you is more important than using someone else's "optimal build" and not get it to work because of a difference in play style.  Of course, someone will come in and yell "L2P you fool!" but I largely ignore those people.

 

It's a pity we're not on the same platform.  I would've loved to test your team oriented builds with you.  I also play PuG matches most of the time :)


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I respect your opinion and you certainly have the right to disagree. 

It's a pity we're not on the same platform.  I would've loved to test your team oriented builds with you.  I also play PuG matches most of the time :)

 

Go PM him your OriginID. You're on the same platform. I've played with both of you before seperately. GG HF.


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I find your arguments are much more interesting then the game itself.

Petition for Bioware to add these as party banter in next patch, so I can pretend I were playing with famous BSNers despite the region lock, imagine dat immersion.


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I find your arguments are much more interesting then the game itself.
Petition for Bioware to add these as party banter in next patch, so I can pretend I were playing with famous BSNers despite the region lock, imagine dat immersion.


Replace most of the banter with 'loooooooooooool'
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Very entertaining Thread! Where i have been all this time?

 

 

Ohh I remember.... Playing GTA5



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I find your arguments are much more interesting then the game itself.
Petition for Bioware to add these as party banter in next patch, so I can pretend I were playing with famous BSNers despite the region lock, imagine dat immersion.


None of my stuff gets used until we talk royalties.
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Oh, it's going to be a "threatening" game?
 
 
Loooooooool. QQ.



True waste of space and time


Thread is delicious, there's enough flames to roast a druffalo.....


Nah just a lot of hot gas will never reach combustion

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This is just my opinion, so pay it no mind if you like. :)

 

The reason an elderly grandmother or 4 year old child would fail at replicating the solo is because they have no knowledge of game mechanics. What I saw in the OP's video was good knowledge of how to play the game, but there was really no skill involved. Before anyone thinks I'm hating on Penguin, let me just say I watch his build guide videos all the time and I know he is a very skilled player. Much better than I will ever be. The purpose of his video was to showcase that with enough promotions and good gear, skill becomes irrelevant. This is true. I have seen it with my own eyes. Players running into groups of enemies using squishy rogues and taking hardly any health damage. When they do lose health, they immediately get it back by killing something. An understanding of game mechanics is required, otherwise you would eventually die, but skill? Not once you reach that level. Is that to say all the players at that level are not skilled? Absolutely not. 

 

I just view knowledge of game mechanics and skill as different things. Just my two cents.

Could you solo perilous easily with that character?  If I'm not mistaken you often talk about playing routine.



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I find your arguments are much more interesting then the game itself.

Petition for Bioware to add these as party banter in next patch, so I can pretend I were playing with famous BSNers despite the region lock, imagine dat immersion.

 

I would laugh if this wasn't a crippling oversight in the matchmaking.


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HOLD EVERYTHING!

Somebody unliked one of my posts. I demand to know who it is!

It's tantamount to treason and carries very severe penalties. Up to and including a 4 hour presentation on social justice, presented by Carrot Top.
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Could you solo perilous easily with that character?  If I'm not mistaken you often talk about playing routine.

 

Not sure if I should be offended or not.  :pinched:

 

I often talk about routine, since I have started promoting characters and end up playing it. I play a lot of threatening too though.

 

The thing that would keep me from doing the same solo is my low amount of promotions and only average gear. 



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Not sure if I should be offended or not.  :pinched:

 

I often talk about routine, since I have started promoting characters and end up playing it. I play a lot of threatening too though.

 

The thing that would keep me from doing the same solo is my low amount of promotions and only average gear. 

 

I don't think he was trying to offend as much as he meant that if you were to play on Penguin's account, do you suspect you would be able to make the same video?

 

 

Edit: I'm not implying you can't. Just asking the question.



#266
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I don't think it is outside the realm of possibilities. :lol:
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#267
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Yep. I'm trying to help you get through the sad times. It's what I do.

LOL fish bait always smell doesn't it?

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LOL fish bait always smell doesn't it?

 

I wouldn't know.


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now i have an idea for my next thread name and how to get views  :)

 

I still remember clicking on a Diablo 3 video called 'Worlds Greatest Demon Hunter'.

 

It turned out to be some colossal douchebag begging for money. He had started streaming and entered his password where his email goes when logging in. Of course within 60 seconds his loyal viewers had logged in to his account and robbed him blind. And he had multiple copies of all BiS gear with perfect rolls. So he starts crying like a little b*tch with a skinned knee and begging his subscribers for money so he can buy it all back from the auction house.

 

He got a lot of views... and nearly as many 'Dislikes'


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HOLD EVERYTHING!

Somebody unliked one of my posts. I demand to know who it is!

It's tantamount to treason and carries very severe penalties. Up to and including a 4 hour presentation on social justice, presented by Carrot Top.

I liked this post so that I could unlike it immediately after.
Then I did it again.

Then I liked it a third time and left it there so that someday when you least expect it, maybe years from now, I can unlike it again.

:devil:


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